GreggTX Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 (edited) I think Murphy will be our new RE and they will trade him , or try to, to move up again. I don't know who is interested, but he's still a very good DE IMO. Question: Who might be that trade partner? How high would that get us? Edited March 25, 2018 by GreggTX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Giants at 2 need a DE... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted March 25, 2018 Author Share Posted March 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, CSBill said: What? Sorry. For some reason it stuck an old post in there before I could enter any text. Weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Hughes won’t get us much nor do I think he’s going anywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 No. He won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smuvtalker Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 I don't think we should trade Hughes personally. He's still our best pass rusher, and after a quiet year last year, believe he can still get to double digit sack numbers... However if he can be packaged into a combo to get us to #2, without having to give up both of our 2nd rounders and next years first, best of luck to you Mr Hughes... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 I do think Hughes is gone eventually because I really don't love his fit in the defense and he is overpaid for what he has produced. But he is a good player and may have a better year with Murphy as a bookend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 He'll be 30 in August. Won't get much will he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 No. For the billionth time, Hughes (and Lawson, for that matter) are 100% part of this team for 2018. DL is a huge point of emphasis for this team. They wouldn't go and deal out a nice contract for Lotulelei, who's primary role will be occupying multiple OL to free up the ends and LBs. They intend on making the DL one of the strongest units on the team. Trading away their best pass rusher makes zero sense when that's their plan. Having Murphy to rotate in there should be a good asset and more than likely a step up from Ryan Davis. Hughes' contract isn't really a cap killer like Dareus' or Glenn's. If they wanted to clear more space they would've dealt Hughes long ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 The point of getting Murphy was to take the focus off Hughes, who was the the only one who commanded attention in the pass rush. Murphy rushing from the left will free up Hughes, and we'll see that in his stats this year. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 28 minutes ago, kdiggz said: Giants at 2 need a DE... There are going to run a 3-4 this year, that is part of the reason they traded Pierre-Paul. Hughes is better suited in a 4-3 as well and the Giants I don't think would be interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Just now, K-GunJimKelly12 said: There are going to run a 3-4 this year, that is part of the reason they traded Pierre-Paul. Hughes is better suited in a 4-3 as well and the Giants I don't think would be interested. He is a true 3-4 pass rushing end who also has the ability to drop into coverage. Hes actually undersized for a 4-3 but he has played well in both schemes. He was one of the top 3-4 ends coming out of college in the 2010 draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 This is breaking news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 I don’t think Hughes will be a part of any trade. Given his age and contract he couldn’t get much value. They are better keeping him on the team. If your looking for a DE to trade, watch Shaq Lawson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 27 minutes ago, TPS said: The point of getting Murphy was to take the focus off Hughes, who was the the only one who commanded attention in the pass rush. Murphy rushing from the left will free up Hughes, and we'll see that in his stats this year. Agreed, along with Star L to tie up the middle. The Bills felt QBs had too many escape routes up the middle in last years D . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, kdiggz said: He is a true 3-4 pass rushing end who also has the ability to drop into coverage. Hes actually undersized for a 4-3 but he has played well in both schemes. He was one of the top 3-4 ends coming out of college in the 2010 draft I don't care about what he did in college. At the NFL level he has been far more successful in a 4-3 scheme. The Giants are drafting Chubb. There is almost no chance they are interested in Hughes. Edited March 25, 2018 by K-GunJimKelly12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Hamburg Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 He will work well with Star and Murphy on the D now...cant wait to see that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 I don't see Hughes or Lawson part of McD's future defense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 25 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: I don't see Hughes or Lawson part of McD's future defense. I don’t see Tre White as part of his future defense either, if you go far enough out. How far in the future can you see? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 How do we get better by getting rid of our best players 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Giants should take our two 1sts and Hughes for their number 2 overall. Cmon, they'd go for it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Pygmy Goat Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 I think Lawson would be of more value in a trade than Hughes. He's a former 1st round pick, mid 20s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Why can’t we have two good starting DEs? Is that against the rules or something? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 For some reason I keep thinking we’re going to be hearing about Shady being traded to the Giants as part of the deal to move up. If they want Barkley a nice conciliation prize might be Shady (in addition to a boatload of picks.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 6 hours ago, TPS said: The point of getting Murphy was to take the focus off Hughes, who was the the only one who commanded attention in the pass rush. Murphy rushing from the left will free up Hughes, and we'll see that in his stats this year. Facts! Hughes numbers didn't match his play imo. Murphy and Star commanding a double team will result in much better numbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 7 hours ago, blacklabel said: No. For the billionth time, Hughes (and Lawson, for that matter) are 100% part of this team for 2018. DL is a huge point of emphasis for this team. They wouldn't go and deal out a nice contract for Lotulelei, who's primary role will be occupying multiple OL to free up the ends and LBs. They intend on making the DL one of the strongest units on the team. Trading away their best pass rusher makes zero sense when that's their plan. Having Murphy to rotate in there should be a good asset and more than likely a step up from Ryan Davis. Hughes' contract isn't really a cap killer like Dareus' or Glenn's. If they wanted to clear more space they would've dealt Hughes long ago. This. But I'm afraid to tell you you're going to have to say it a billion and one times cuz it'll come up again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurpleBull Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Is Hughes' spot on the team really that safe though? He could fairly be labeled a head-case with all the 15yd. penalties he's incurred during games in his time as a Bill. I could see them moving away from Hughes because of his detrimental on-field behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 7 hours ago, kdiggz said: Giants at 2 need a DE... Not sure if I should say LOL or OMG. For Pete's sake dude give it up. The Giants are not trading and they are picking a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punt75 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 8 hours ago, BuffaloRush said: I don’t think Hughes will be a part of any trade. Given his age and contract he couldn’t get much value. They are better keeping him on the team. If your looking for a DE to trade, watch Shaq Lawson I agree! Poor Hughes got held 50% of the plays he rushed the passer. It was an embarrassment to the NFL. Next year the Bills will get more respect and so will Hughes. I think Shaq is a bust - big time. IF they can any kind of pick for him - - do it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 3 hours ago, 4merper4mer said: Not sure if I should say LOL or OMG. For Pete's sake dude give it up. The Giants are not trading and they are picking a QB. And you are wrong so I could say that to you too. You have no idea so don't try and act like you do. There's already multiple reports saying they aren't taking a QB so lol to you for not knowing that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKBills25 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Tampa with JPP? ?♂️ We send Hughes and a 3rd for the 7 spot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 3 hours ago, kdiggz said: And you are wrong so I could say that to you too. You have no idea so don't try and act like you do. There's already multiple reports saying they aren't taking a QB so lol to you for not knowing that But according to the entire world heaven and Earth must be moved to get a top three QB to ensure success for the next thousand years. Does that not apply to the Giants? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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