Albert Breer's new mock

[Lurker]

1 hour ago, MrEpsYtown said:

 

Dont forget he is smart and has opinions! Rabble rabble rabble! And he's rich! 

 

Brady-esq....

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

12 minutes ago, Mrbojanglezs said:

Jim Kelly 55.6% completion in college

 

Different game, different time. Stafford is the only current active example I’ve found.  He’s the exception to the rule  

 

edit: reading above shocked about Ryan. He did have two over 60 seasons thought and his average is as close to 60 as you can be. But still under 60 technically.. so a second outlier and probably the best success story of overcoming the odds. 

Edited March 21, 2018 by Over 29 years of fanhood

[thebandit27]

Just now, Commonsense said:

Interesting examples, if I knew the guy I was getting at two was a Ryan or Palmer clone I might be reluctant to part with the picks.

 

Of course; the benefit of hindsight is great, right?  (that's just me talking; not a shot at you or anything)

 

I think people get way too hung up on completion percentage.  I am more interested in knowing if they've actually watched Allen face teams like Iowa, and saw how he threw the ball.  I also want to know if the same folks were aware that Allen competed against 3 teams that finished in the top-20 pass defense in FBS in 2017 (Air Force, Utah State, and Central Michigan--and in those games he completed 72.7%, 69.2%, and 57.9% of his passes, respectively.

 

My biggest problem is that people don't watch this kid, and they have no idea just how good he's been at times.

6 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Interesting.  You think every team is that scared of Rosen due to potential attitude problems/injuries?  I’d be shocked if they passed on Rosen for Allen (and extremely excited].  I could see it over Baker.  Just stand Allen and Mayfield side by side and it’s hard to blame them.  Can’t wait to see how this all transpires 

 

I don't think it's as much attitude/injuries as team fit.  Allen is blowing people's doors off with his physical ability, and as I said: the tape on the kid doesn't lie--when he's right, he's downright special.

[Lurker]

3 minutes ago, Like A Mofo said:

Josh Allen has the size, mobility and arm strength to be a QB in Buffalo.

 

Funny how the most successful opposing QB ever to play in Buffalo (Brady) doesn't have the size, mobility or arm strength everyone keeps talking about...

 

    

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

1 minute ago, Lurker said:

 

Funny how the most successful opposing QB ever to play in Buffalo (Brady) doesn't have the size, mobility or arm strength everyone keeps talking about...

 

    

 

Brady has size and arm strength 

[buffaloboyinATL]

2 hours ago, NewEraBills said:

If I had to "accept" Allen at 12 then I'd be OK so long as we got Vander Esch or Raashan Evans at MLB.  But if we give away the capital that it is being reported we will have to give up to move to #2 and select Allen this will be the most disappointing offseason in I don't know when.  We would have gone from being on a high of breaking the 17 year curse to THIS.  Ughhhhh

I disagree. If they believe after all of their research, that Allen has the potential to be our franchise quarterback, then I will be happy that they take the initiative to go get him. I would much prefer that they take control and go get the one they truly want, regardless of who it is, rather than wait and see who falls to us.

 

Hopefully, if there is no one they deem truly worthy, they will stay put and build the roster around McCarron and Peterman.

[foreboding]

5 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

 

I don't think he does have a high ceiling.

 

Elite QBs have elite accuracy. Brady, Montany, Marino, Kelly, Brees, Manning, etc, etc, etc - they're all elite passers because they had elite accuracy. 

 

Accuracy is Allen's worst trait. If he's missing the thing all the elite guys had, how can his ceiling be as high? 

Hey Rober! I just got started at this new (to us) forum.

 

re: Allen. Really...I tend to agree with you, there are examples to the contrary, but I think that most had high completion percentages in college before they got to the much more challenging next level. He may have a high ceiling based on physical skills alone, but I agree that ain't worth no second pick IMO.

2 minutes ago, Lurker said:

 

Funny how the most successful opposing QB ever to play in Buffalo (Brady) doesn't have the size, mobility or arm strength everyone keeps talking about...

 

    

Isn't he like 6'4? And last I checked he can chuck the ball pretty well.

[Like A Mofo]

3 minutes ago, Lurker said:

 

Funny how the most successful opposing QB ever to play in Buffalo (Brady) doesn't have the size, mobility or arm strength everyone keeps talking about...

 

    

 

Brady dosen't have the size? He sure does. And the Pats* are a tough example: Their system of play can work anywhere, mostly short and intermediate passes.

 

Mobility? Sure I agree there in regards to Brady

[T master]

2 hours ago, jrober38 said:

Barf. 

 

Allen is terrible. 

 

I not sure i would go that far but i don't think with a Comp. % in the mid 50's i'm not sure he's all that & a bag of chips !!
 

To give all that will be needed as far as draft capital to get to number 2 in this years draft the guy had better be a day one starter & be a almost no miss pick because we don't need another Sammy scenario !!! 

 

Or better yet a replay of EJ !!

[MrEpsYtown]

4 minutes ago, Lurker said:

 

Funny how the most successful opposing QB ever to play in Buffalo (Brady) doesn't have the size, mobility or arm strength everyone keeps talking about...

 

    

I hear you and it is a good point. But I think Brady is a once in a lifetime situation. Using him as the example doesn’t say a whole lot jmo. 

[JohnC]

2 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:

 

Of course; the benefit of hindsight is great, right?  (that's just me talking; not a shot at you or anything)

 

I think people get way too hung up on completion percentage.  I am more interested in knowing if they've actually watched Allen face teams like Iowa, and saw how he threw the ball.  I also want to know if the same folks were aware that Allen competed against 3 teams that finished in the top-20 pass defense in FBS in 2017 (Air Force, Utah State, and Central Michigan--and in those games he completed 72.7%, 69.2%, and 57.9% of his passes, respectively.

 

My biggest problem is that people don't watch this kid, and they have no idea just how good he's been at times.

What's going on is nuance is lost in the stereotyping of players. You see it in some of the judgments made on Mayfield, Rosen and Allen. While assets get magnified more often than not weaknesses get even more magnified and exaggerated as the evaluation process advances. Very often over-analyzing can be just as damaging as under-analyzing. When in doubt trust your eyes and instincts.  

[NewEra]

6 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:

 

Of course; the benefit of hindsight is great, right?  (that's just me talking; not a shot at you or anything)

 

I think people get way too hung up on completion percentage.  I am more interested in knowing if they've actually watched Allen face teams like Iowa, and saw how he threw the ball.  I also want to know if the same folks were aware that Allen competed against 3 teams that finished in the top-20 pass defense in FBS in 2017 (Air Force, Utah State, and Central Michigan--and in those games he completed 72.7%, 69.2%, and 57.9% of his passes, respectively.

 

My biggest problem is that people don't watch this kid, and they have no idea just how good he's been at times.

 

I don't think it's as much attitude/injuries as team fit.  Allen is blowing people's doors off with his physical ability, and as I said: the tape on the kid doesn't lie--when he's right, he's downright special.

Do you think he’s the most physically gifted QB you’ve seen since the turn of the century?  I do.  I understand why people like him but I just wouldn’t take him over a guy like Rosen (unless there’s more to Rosen’s character concerns than I believe there to be).  I do worry that Rosen wouldn’t be happy in Buffalo.  Have you done enough research yet to determine who you would pick, Allen or Mayfield?  After a couple weeks of watching random game tapes of each, I’d have to go with Baker.  He’s shown he can win and lead a team while having ample arm strength and very good accuracy.  His fire is evident. To me, Allen looks like a wide eyed teenager in a Hulk body that has the best arm I’ve ever seen.  Tough decision for Beane.  I just wouldn’t want to give up the House for him

[CommonCents]

13 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:

 

Of course; the benefit of hindsight is great, right?  (that's just me talking; not a shot at you or anything)

 

I think people get way too hung up on completion percentage.  I am more interested in knowing if they've actually watched Allen face teams like Iowa, and saw how he threw the ball.  I also want to know if the same folks were aware that Allen competed against 3 teams that finished in the top-20 pass defense in FBS in 2017 (Air Force, Utah State, and Central Michigan--and in those games he completed 72.7%, 69.2%, and 57.9% of his passes, respectively.

 

My biggest problem is that people don't watch this kid, and they have no idea just how good he's been at times.

 

I don't think it's as much attitude/injuries as team fit.  Allen is blowing people's doors off with his physical ability, and as I said: the tape on the kid doesn't lie--when he's right, he's downright special.

I didn't take it as a shot. I understood your point I was just illustrating the impossible situation Beane is in. What's the chances any of these guys are better than Ryan/Palmer? Then what is the chance after you take away the Browns choice (Darnold)?

 

Rosen/Allen are both guys who could make the players around them better. Mayfield is going to need talent much like Ryan/Palmer. If Beane does indeed part with the draft pile it sure will be tempting to go with one of the higher ceiling guys.

[thebandit27]

8 minutes ago, JohnC said:

What's going on is nuance is lost in the stereotyping of players. You see it in some of the judgments made on Mayfield, Rosen and Allen. While assets get magnified more often than not weaknesses get even more magnified and exaggerated as the evaluation process advances. Very often over-analyzing can be just as damaging as under-analyzing. When in doubt trust your eyes and instincts.  

 

Agreed

 

3 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Do you think he’s the most physically gifted QB you’ve seen since the turn of the century?  I do.  I understand why people like him but I just wouldn’t take him over a guy like Rosen (unless there’s more to Rosen’s character concerns than I believe there to be).  I do worry that Rosen wouldn’t be happy in Buffalo.  Have you done enough research yet to determine who you would pick, Allen or Mayfield?  After a couple weeks of watching random game tapes of each, I’d have to go with Baker.  He’s shown he can win and lead a team while having ample arm strength and very good accuracy.  His fire is evident. To me, Allen looks like a wide eyed teenager in a Hulk body that has the best arm I’ve ever seen.  Tough decision for Beane.  I just wouldn’t want to give up the House for him

 

I certainly think that Allen is in the conversation for most gifted, yes.

 

As for who I would take, man, my board is all over the place right now.  Who I like on a stand-alone basis, and who I like for specific team fits are vastly different.

 

Just now, Commonsense said:

I didn't take it as a shot. I understood your point I was just illustrating the impossible situation Beane is in. What's the chances any of these guys are better than Ryan/Palmer? Then what is the chance after you take away the Browns choice (Darnold)?

 

Rosen/Allen are both guys who could make the players around them better. Mayfield is going to need talent much like Ryan/Palmer. If Beane does indeed part with the draft pile it sure will be tempting to go with one of the higher ceiling guys.

 

I think Beane would move up for any of Darnold/Rosen/Allen, but that's just speculation on my part.

[hondo in seattle]

2 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

Plenty of mocks to go around, but Breer is especially plugged in around the league - and he specifically says that he showed the mock to league execs and "didn't get much pushback."  The Josh Allen rumors aren't going away and are either part of an elaborate smokescreen, or...

 

https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/03/21/mock-draft-sam-darnold-browns-bills-trade-giants-josh-allen-broncos-trade-browns-baker-mayfield

 

2. Buffalo (projected trade with N.Y. Giants): Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming
The Bills have done a nice job building capital for a bold swing. This is one. Allen’s potential is limitless, and his big frame and arm are made for Buffalo, though he has a ways to go.

 

 

Did Breer expect to get pushback?  Did he expect GMs and scouts to tell him: "No you have it all wrong!  Let me show you our draft board and how we expect the draft to play out"?  

 

This mock isn't anything special and it neither excites me nor makes me worry.   It's just another mock.

 

(Apologies if I missed someone else pointing  out the same things).

[NewEra]

1 minute ago, thebandit27 said:

 

Agreed

 

 

I certainly think that Allen is in the conversation for most gifted, yes.

 

As for who I would take, man, my board is all over the place right now.  Who I like on a stand-alone basis, and who I like for specific team fits are vastly different.

 

 

I think Beane would move up for any of Darnold/Rosen/Allen, but that's just speculation on my part.

He’s the most gifted that I can recall.  Can’t help but look at him and see an overgrown teenager though.  Each QB has their issues.   The only thing that I’ve concluded so far, is that Rosen is currently the best QB of the bunch....but he hasn’t progressed very much since being the #1 recruit out of Hs.  Prior to signing AJ, the only 2 QBs that I’d be ok with trading up to #2 (and paying a lot to get there]  to draft Rosen or Darnold,   Now that we have a veteran qb with a chance for succes, I get the Allen love, but I wouldn’t draft him over either at #2.  Baker and Allen are a toss up.  Ideal scenario let’s usndraft Allen or abaker at 12 (or in a minor trade up that allows us to keep 22 and draft a LB, WR, DT or OL

[MAJBobby]

So a name that is constantly attached to Buffalo met with the team for 15 Min and had one game in his college career with a Bills scout at. 

 

Hmmmm and that is the guy they are in love with according to Media. 

[cba fan]

2 hours ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

Tired s hearing about draft ‘capital’.  Whatever happen to the good ole draft pick?

agreed.

 

same with:

skill set.

money ball.

information super highway.

analytics.

optics.

 

 

[jrober38]

1 hour ago, Lurker said:

 

Funny how the most successful opposing QB ever to play in Buffalo (Brady) doesn't have the size, mobility or arm strength everyone keeps talking about...

 

    

 

Exactly.

 

The top QBs in NFL history for the most part were guys who didn't blow the doors off with their athletic ability. 

 

The majority of Hall of Fame passers are smart, cerebral players with pin point accuracy. There are exceptions, but they are extremely rare. 

 

The best QBs of the modern era (last 15 years) are Tom Brady (no mobility, mediocre arm strength, pin point precision), Peyton Manning (no mobility, decent arm, pin point precision), Drew Brees (limited mobility, subpar size, decent arm, pin point precision), Aaron Rodgers (good mobility, elite arm, mediocre size, pin point precision).

 

The common trait when you look at any elite QB who is more than a flash in the pan is elite accuracy, and Allen simply doesn't have it. 

Edited March 21, 2018 by jrober38

[transplantbillsfan]

If it happens it happens and we'll all get behind Allen eventually. But for a coach and GM that have been pretty water tight over the last year in terms of leaks I just think there's way too much of a public connection here for this interest to be this real or this strong.

[Jay_Fixit]

3 hours ago, DFT said:

Yep.  You got me.  That was it.  I went all in on that one guy.   He seemed like such a good guy. He’s taller in person too. Seemed to know his stuff and was very well-rounded about Rosen. Yep. 

Taller in person.

Fat and Slow.

It’s pronounced Core-Darrell

Shoes.

 

[Rico]

Burning a lot of draft picks to move up for a major project of a QB makes absolutely no sense to me at all, not in this day and age. I just can’t see this happening.

Edited March 21, 2018 by Rico

[DFT]

Just now, Jay_Fixit said:

Taller in person.

Fat and Slow.

It’s pronounced Core-Darrell

Shoes.

 

I need you to know just how much you complete me.   

 

 

You, big guy.   

[Jay_Fixit]

32 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

 

Exactly.

 

The top QBs in NFL history for the most part were guys who didn't blow the doors off with their athletic ability. 

 

The majority of Hall of Fame passers are smart, cerebral players with pin point accuracy. There are exceptions, but they are extremely rare. 

 

The best QBs of the modern era (last 15 years) are Tom Brady (no mobility, mediocre arm strength, pin point precision), Peyton Manning (no mobility, decent arm, pin point precision), Drew Brees (limited mobility, subpar size, decent arm, pin point precision), Aaron Rodgers (good mobility, elite arm, mediocre size, pin point precision).

 

The common trait when you look at any elite QB who is more than a flash in the pan is elite accuracy, and Allen simply doesn't have it. 

Inaccuracy is a death blow to an NFL QB.

 

If you can’t hit receivers in college when “open” is 1-2 yards then you’re definitely not hitting “open” receivers in the NFL when you’re dealing with inches and next level anticipation.

 

Another major fault is people thinking that a guy who can throw 80 yards means something. It doesn’t.

 

Josh Allen = Yikes.

[jrober38]

5 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said:

Inaccuracy is a death blow to an NFL QB.

 

If you can’t hit receivers in college when “open” is 1-2 yards then you’re definitely not hitting “open” receivers in the NFL when you’re dealing with inches and next level anticipation.

 

Another major fault is people thinking that a guy who can throw 80 yards means something. It doesn’t.

 

Josh Allen = Yikes.

 

Josh Allen will get drafted in round 1 for the same reasons EJ Manuel, Josh Freeman, Jake Locker, Kyle Boller and JP Losman were picked in round 1, and he'll fail miserably for the same reasons they all failed miserably. 

[thebandit27]

1 minute ago, jrober38 said:

 

Josh Allen will get drafted in round 1 for the same reasons EJ Manuel, Josh Freeman, Jake Locker, Kyle Boller and JP Losman were picked in round 1, and he'll fail miserably for the same reasons they all failed miserably. 

 

I have to ask: how much have you watched him play?  His performance on the field is a stark contrast to the guys you are mentioning.

[GG]

14 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Hey, just saying.

 

McDermott is a devout hard core catholic. Rosens jewish and outspoken background might no mesh well with the process. ?

 

Say what?

[BuffaloRebound]

3 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

 

Josh Allen will get drafted in round 1 for the same reasons EJ Manuel, Josh Freeman, Jake Locker, Kyle Boller and JP Losman were picked in round 1, and he'll fail miserably for the same reasons they all failed miserably. 

 

Allen may end up being a bust just like any of the other top QB prospects could, but the guys you mentioned couldn't hold a candle to Allen as a draft prospect.  

[jrober38]

1 hour ago, BuffaloRebound said:

 

Allen may end up being a bust just like any of the other top QB prospects could, but the guys you mentioned couldn't hold a candle to Allen as a draft prospect.  

 

What does Allen do better than any of them? 

 

I'm struggling to see the difference. 

[DFT]

Just now, jrober38 said:

 

What does Allen do better than any of them? 

 

I'm struggling to see the difference. 

Strongest arm, great build and freakishly athletic for his size.  That is helping people see passed his GLARING deficiencies. 

[DrDawkinstein]

5 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

Plenty of mocks to go around, but Breer is especially plugged in around the league - and he specifically says that he showed the mock to league execs and "didn't get much pushback."  The Josh Allen rumors aren't going away and are either part of an elaborate smokescreen, or...

 

https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/03/21/mock-draft-sam-darnold-browns-bills-trade-giants-josh-allen-broncos-trade-browns-baker-mayfield

 

2. Buffalo (projected trade with N.Y. Giants): Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming
The Bills have done a nice job building capital for a bold swing. This is one. Allen’s potential is limitless, and his big frame and arm are made for Buffalo, though he has a ways to go.

 

 

Not a huge Allen fan myself, but what do I know. All I want is for the Bills to get to #2 and get THEIR GUY, THE GUY.

 

If Beane and McD think that is Allen, then so be it. They know better than any of us.

 

I'm just happy to get to #2

[thebandit27]

5 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

 

What does Allen do better than any of them? 

 

I'm struggling to see the difference. 

 

3 minutes ago, DFT said:

Strongest arm, great build and freakishly athletic for his size.  That is helping people see passed his GLARING deficiencies. 

 

I keep asking this of people that are dead set against the guy: how much of him have you watched?

[jrober38]

5 minutes ago, DFT said:

Strongest arm, great build and freakishly athletic for his size.  That is helping people see passed his GLARING deficiencies. 

 

He's the same size as every guy I mentioned. Most of them are better athletes than him (better athletic tests, better forty times). 

 

His arrm strength is outstanding, but it was the biggest plus for Josh Freeman, JP Losmand and Kyle Boller as well.

 

Kyle Boller could throw a football 80 yards as well. JP Losman and Freeman could also throw it a mile. Like Allen, the problem was they all had horrible accuracy. 

 

Every year size, arm strength and athleticism coax scouts into ignoring the game tape, and every time they do they wind up picking a bust. 

Edited March 21, 2018 by jrober38

[DFT]

1 minute ago, thebandit27 said:

 

 

I keep asking this of people that are dead set against the guy: how much of him have you watched?

Quite a bit.   In person and film.

2 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

 

He's the same size as every guy I mentioned. Most of them are better athletes than him (better athletic tests, better forty times). 

 

His arrm strength is outstanding, but it was the biggest plus for Josh Freeman, JP Losmand and Kyle Boller as well.

 

Kyle Boller could throw a football 80 yards as well. JP Losman and Freeman could also throw it a mile. Like Allen, the problem was they all had horrible accuracy. 

 

Every year size, arm strength and athleticism coax scouts into ignoring the game tape, and every time they do they wind up picking a bust. 

I didn’t see the guys you referenced, but agree that he’s eerily similar to Freeman and Boller.  You want those guys to make it, badly because their brand of talent is so rare.  But the tape doesn’t lie.   He has some serious bust potential 

[BuffaloRebound]

2 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

 

He's the same size as every guy I mentioned. Most of them are better athletes than him. 

 

Arm strength is outstanding, but it was the biggest plus for Josh Freeman, JP Losmand and Kyle Boller as well.

 

Kyle Boller could throw a football 80 yards as well. Like Allen, the problem was he had horrible accuracy. 

 

Physically, Josh Freeman was comparable but not as tough and Boller is the only guy you mentioned who comes close to Allen's arm strength but Allen has better touch than Boller did.  

[H2o]

5 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said:

Terrible mock. He doesn't have Mason Rudolph in the first! He knows nothing.  

 

Anyway, I'm am starting to feel like the Giants could want Barkley. If he is there at two they won't trade out. If the Browns take him at one, they will trade out. Breer mentions that the Giants love Barkley and Nelson. 

 

This is all contingent on the Giants not wanting a quarterback, but I think we we could have standing offers for the 2 and 4 picks. If the Browns go QB and the Giants get Barkley, the Browns probably trade us 4. If the Browns take Barkley, the Giants maybe trade out with us, and the Browns get a quarterback at 4. I think it is all contingent on if Barkley is available. Either way we would be guaranteed 1 of Allen, Darnold, Rosen. 

This is my thought on the Giants as well. You add Barkley to that offense? They could be amongst the league's best again and the defense is already solid. 

[jrober38]

11 minutes ago, DFT said:

Quite a bit.   In person and film.

I didn’t see the guys you referenced, but agree that he’s eerily similar to Freeman and Boller.  You want those guys to make it, badly because their brand of talent is so rare.  But the tape doesn’t lie.   He has some serious bust potential 

 

His downside is that he's out of the league in 5-6 years or nothing more than a training camp flier by the end of their rookie deal like each of Manuel, Boller, Losman and Freeman. 

 

People get so wrapped up in arm strength, but they completely ignore that the NFL is a precision passing league where 75-80% of throws are within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage. 

 

Knowing that, why does it even matter if a guy can throw the ball 80 yards. When does that skill ever actually present itself as an opportunity on a football field? 

[Mojo44]

6 hours ago, Chuck Wagon said:

Beane doesn't have the guts to go to 2, he's drunk on his draft capital.

 It’s not drunkenness. It’s out right common sense. None of these top for quarterbacks are sure things. Rosian and Darnold Calm the closest but they are not that close. Personally, I do not get all of the Mayfield love. He is a short system quarterback who played in a conference that didn’t play any defense. He is the biggest risk of all. Not to mention his personality issues. For the bills currently and for their future standing pat where they are is their best tact.

[jrober38]

10 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:

 

Physically, Josh Freeman was comparable but not as tough and Boller is the only guy you mentioned who comes close to Allen's arm strength but Allen has better touch than Boller did.  

 

Dude, you're literally making all the same excuses people made for Kyle Boller when he went from 3rd or 4th round prospect to top 20 pick. The same ones we made when we picked EJ Manuel 6 years ago. 

 

Read up on Boller - he had a great senior bowl, and then an outstanding combine and pro day. He supposedly threw a football threw the uprights from mid field while kneeling. Scouts left the practice drooling over his arm and mobility. 

 

Then he put the pads on, and the Kyle Boller that everyone loved in shorts and a t shirt went back to being the Kyle Boller that wasn't actually very good at playing football. He was eaten alive in the NFL because despite being able to throw the ball 80 yards, he couldn't consistently hit receivers within 10 yards of the LOS. 

[BullBuchanan]

6 hours ago, TheTruthHurts said:

This is the #1 reason we need a dome so Bills GMs would stop worrying about arm strength so much. 

 

If you build a Dome in Buffalo, what's the point of even having a team here? Move them to Florida and be done with it. Buffalo is built for grit.