Magox Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 I was hoping that would be the final offer to get it done. I just hope we don't have to trade next year's first, you never know...... It could end up being a top 10 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 10 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Colts don't want a QB, that's why they traded down. Knowing the Colts wouldn't be interested in QB, why didn't the Bills get more aggressive with the Colts? Perhaps, like a lot of analysts, the Bills have two guys (Darnold & Rosen) well in front of everyone else at the position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Ok, so yesterday the story was Beane wasnt prepared for a move because he had only met with the QBs for 15 minutes. And today the rumor (from ICB no less) is that talks are back on and we have made a formal offer...which he knows exactly what said offer is. And people believe this why exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 10 minutes ago, bigK14094 said: Disaster if they trade all those picks. Way to many holes on this team to bet on a #1 round QB saving the day. Oh no, what are we going to do at SAM linebacker, 3rd WR, backup DT and 3rd CB! Way too many holes to get a franchise QB for the first time in 2 decades! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: You don't know that well, that's what he said, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Just now, bigK14094 said: Disaster if they trade all those picks. Way to many holes on this team to bet on a #1 round QB saving the day. I have to ask, respectfully: if now isn't the time to make your play for a QB in the top 10, when will it be time? This franchise has gone nearly 60 years without ever using its highest draft slot on a QB. At some point, isn't it time to stop aiming and pull the trigger? 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, Commonsense said: You don't know squat! We have no idea what the Jets intentions are so how can we be sure they made a mistake? The only way it makes sense is if they are OK with any of three guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 15 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Someone said that? There was a guy who clearly had the 5th year option rules flipped trying to claim 2nd round picks were worth more than 1st round picks because you got an extra cheap year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don't stop billievein Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Colts don't want a QB, that's why they traded down. Knowing the Colts wouldn't be interested in QB, why didn't the Bills get more aggressive with the Colts? Colts didn’t want to move out of the top 10. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, bigK14094 said: Disaster if they trade all those picks. Way to many holes on this team to bet on a #1 round QB saving the day. Right, because the Bills have had a dynamite QB for the last 18+ years, and just happen to ignore every other position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Trade more picks just to make sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlonce Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: If you want a QB, you have to be in the top 5. Oh yes,I agree. I would do whatever it takes to get there. I was commenting on your thoughts regarding the expense to move up. The Giants would be giving up the number 2 spot in a QB rich draft,filled with QB needy teams. If they trade with Buffalo they would be moving out of the premium area of top ten. We will have to pay substantially more than Indy did,since they and the Jets set the value and Indy only moved 3 spots back. That supposed initial offer isn’t going to do it because the Giants will be losing the value of 10 spots and leaving the so called blue chip zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Just now, oldmanfan said: The only way it makes sense is if they are OK with any of three guys. Or they could have made the early trade so they can hide in plain sight and take Barkley after the Bills panic and jump to two. We just don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Just now, oldmanfan said: well, that's what he said, right? No, he didn't say that they were having conversations with each guy; he said that they've only talked to each guy for 15 minutes at this point. He also said that the team had no plans to move up or down from 21 and 22, and we know how that turned out. You just don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 10 minutes ago, billsherd said: Is this rumor good enough they are talking about it on wgr? WGR is an entertainment show. No real sports new there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, No Place To Hyde said: Ok, so yesterday the story was Beane wasnt prepared for a move because he had only met with the QBs for 15 minutes. And today the rumor (from ICB no less) is that talks are back on and we have made a formal offer...which he knows exactly what said offer is. And people believe this why exactly? How do you know a GM is lying this time of year? his lips are moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 42 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Can you fly, Bobby? If this is real, then I take back everything bad about IB. Let's get our man! What movie are those images from? My brain fails me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 10 minutes ago, joesixpack said: What movie are those images from? My brain fails me If you right click on the picture you can do "search google for image" and it'll steer you in the right direction. It's robocop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 27 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I noticed they are talking about it and Jeremy white responded to IB on twitter It's far too much to give up. He just throws **** at the wall that makes sense. I have done this before, but he goes public and announces it. It's called logic and reasoning. I had a strong inclination that we would go after star. It made too much sense and from reports star loved mcds defense. In this case it would take something similar to the proposition to get to #2. When that happens bib is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 41 minutes ago, ALF said: I posted in another tread To move up to #2 might offer #12 , #22 , 2019 #1 and a player if necessary. Maybe 2019 , 2nd rd also The Bills need the remainder of 2018 picks for needed players now. With all the cap space in 2019 from dead cap leaving , will have plenty of cap space for free agency to cover loss of 2019 #1. Giants will have big time offers after Jets moved to #3. This could be the most important draft ever. Their are going to be a lot of teams with lots of cap room in 2019. The top FA still have to want to play in the snow and weather conditions in Buffalo. If The Bean trades up in this draft with the Giants then he likes two QB's in this draft. So much draft capital to part with, it must suck to know if you choose wrong you killed and set the franchise back at least 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 49 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Take this as you will Too much for my liking. ALL of these QBs are projects and I don't think there's much difference between the top 5. All of them have warts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Chuck Wagon said: If you right click on the picture you can do "search google for image" and it'll steer you in the right direction. It's robocop YAAAAASSSSS lol "I LIKE IT!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, joesixpack said: What movie are those images from? My brain fails me Original Robocop. Classic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 24 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: That's, think what you want. He's one of the best QB prospects to come out the last 10 years, that's not just my opinion. The problem with Darnold is he is also one of the youngest ever so sitting him makes sense. I know that's the consensus on internet forums but I just don't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, CuddyDark said: WGR is an entertainment show. No real sports new there. Wgr is a radio station Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, CountDorkula said: How do you know a GM is lying this time of year? his lips are moving. How do you know ICB is lying any time of year? He send a tweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Several of our posters have speculated on a package like this...so IB is probably throwing his normal **** against the wall. This particularly low risk for him. If the deal never gets done, he says Gettleman didn't want to deal; if it gets done for more, he says they negotiated; if it gets done for less--he can claim the price went down when there was no other demand (highly, highly unlikely). But he will claim credit for the breaking news. I think Gettleman really wants 1-2019...and it will be part of the deal. This will give him his QB next year. The Bills may get to keep 65 and 2-2019 if we add it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Mrbojanglezs said: Wgr is a radio station It's all entertainment. No sports new there. They'll bring on anything if it fits their narrative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodneykm Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: The top FA still have to want to play in the snow and weather conditions in Buffalo. This might be one of the bigger reasons to pay a little extra to get a guy if you think he's franchise material. Obviously, having a top flight QB gives your team a better chance to win each year and might help attract a FA who wouldn't normally even consider Buffalo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 14 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Colts don't want a QB, that's why they traded down. Knowing the Colts wouldn't be interested in QB, why didn't the Bills get more aggressive with the Colts? I know they don't want a QB. But the two players I mentioned probably are on their radar. They'll be there at 6 but not at 12. The Colts probably didn't want to risk losing top 7 talent so the Jets had a more appealing deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 20, 2018 Author Share Posted March 20, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, No Place To Hyde said: Ok, so yesterday the story was Beane wasnt prepared for a move because he had only met with the QBs for 15 minutes. And today the rumor (from ICB no less) is that talks are back on and we have made a formal offer...which he knows exactly what said offer is. And people believe this why exactly? Who is believing it? A rumor is a rumor. Also, Beane is lying. Edited March 20, 2018 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, JoeF said: Several of our posters have speculated on a package like this...so IB is probably throwing his normal **** against the wall. This particularly low risk for him. If the deal never gets done, he says Gettleman didn't want to deal; if it gets done for more, he says they negotiated; if it gets done for less--he can claim the price went down when there was no other demand (highly, highly unlikely). But he will claim credit for the breaking news. I think Gettleman really wants 1-2019...and it will be part of the deal. This will give him his QB next year. The Bills may get to keep 65 and 2-2019 if we add it. And I’m ok with that because we’ll have a franchise QB and $100M to spend next offseason. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 12 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said: There was a guy who clearly had the 5th year option rules flipped trying to claim 2nd round picks were worth more than 1st round picks because you got an extra cheap year. So that's why you see teams "selling the farm" for the 33rd pick all the time right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 15 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Colts don't want a QB, that's why they traded down. Knowing the Colts wouldn't be interested in QB, why didn't the Bills get more aggressive with the Colts? Why? Because Beane wants to analyze the QB's first before giving away draft stock. Refreshing to see a GM take a methodical approach for once. Just because the Jets sold the farm to move up a few spots doesn't mean we have to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 If we have to give them a first next year drop next year's 2nd and the 65th pick this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 It wouldn't surprise me if the Jets trade put our plans in motion sooner than we had first thought. I'm glad we seem to be being diligent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 52 minutes ago, BigBuff423 said: Man, that IS a king's ransom to make that move...in fact, it would seem that would be enough to get to #1.....if the Giant's counter, I'd love to know how much more they think they can get....woof! In many ways, for all of that, I'd rather stay put....wow. If you think that's a kings ransom to move up and grab a possible Franchise QB in a good QB year - than you just haven't been paying close enough attention. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: Their are going to be a lot of teams with lots of cap room in 2019. The top FA still have to want to play in the snow and weather conditions in Buffalo. If The Bean trades up in this draft with the Giants then he likes two QB's in this draft. So much draft capital to part with, it must suck to know if you choose wrong you killed and set the franchise back at least 3 years. No offense: the bold text is the biggest misconception I see regarding drafting QBs. You only set your franchise back when you limit the number of attempts that you're willing to make at finding a franchise QB in a given time period. Signing McCarron? Great move; count him as an "iron in the fire" (and I know some folks are going to get sick of me using that terminology). Trade up and draft a top-3 QB this year? Great, count him as an iron in the fire. Peterman? Sure, for this year, count him as one too. Next year, if none of these guys look the part, then you part ways with McCarron and Peterman and make other moves at the position. 4 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: And I’m ok with that because we’ll have a franchise QB and $100M to spend next offseason. Agreed, though it'll probably be closer to $85M once this year's draft picks are signed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 When was the last time the Bills picked at #2? I know we’ve drafted at #3 in recent memory but dont recall the two spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 That is kind of what I expect it would take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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