Benjamin Allbright - Bills Calling Around Looking for A Top 10 Pick

[OldTimer1960]

8 minutes ago, horned dogs said:

I want us to get to no worse than 3 probably #2. I've identified 3 QBs (as others have) who will be successes (Darnold, Rosen, Mayfield). The other guys are more of the project type. These guys can get it done in the NFL.

 

Josh Rosen is my #1 target, I want the best passer in the draft.

You should let the NFL GMs know who you’ve identified as successes!

[baskingridgebillsfan]

if they choose this path they will have over 40 million in cap space.  That is enough to fill some holes with quality players.  When you look over the free agent list and Bills needs middle linebacker jumps out as something that is going to have to come from the draft.   Other positions can be addressed through free agency depending on how munc money they want to throw at it 

 

I still think moving up to pick 2 is an option.  It works for both teams.   The Giants can delay making a decision on Eli for another year and have ammo to build a competitive team around him.   Plus they would have two first next year to help make a qb move. 

the offer would be 21,22 and next years first, since this doesn't get it done via the trade chart , the can throw in two players that seem to have fallen out of favor that would help the giants, Glenn and Lawson 

Edited February 17, 2018 by baskingridgebillsfan

[Seanbillsfan2206]

1 hour ago, sven233 said:

That you should go ahead and just delete your account.......  That would make us all wiser not having to listen to you.

Wow. More genius work. How do you do it 

[Roundybout]

30 minutes ago, xRUSHx said:

OBD played this game before with fans, when we move and grab a QB only then I will believe it until then talk is cheap.

 

Did we have rumors like this last year? Don't remember honestly.

[baskingridgebillsfan]

58 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

It really is like Schoop and Bulldog tweeting.

 

 

To me, living in Colorado for many decades, this is news worthwhile for bills fans.

You guys got to realize that other teams (and their fans) have the same ideas we do.

 

I jokingly told some Bronco friends of mine that the Bills are going to jump to #2.

They got pissed and said Elway better not let that happen.

FWIW

other teams want to move up no doubt.  There is no way the giants will trade with the Jets.   I think the Bills can outbid everyone else but the broncos.  If Cousins goes to Denver then we might have a chance 

2 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said:

 

Did we have rumors like this last year? Don't remember honestly.

we did when Whaley was in charge , then it was they will take one in the mid rounds 

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

22 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said:

You should let the NFL GMs know who you’ve identified as successes!

Most of them have identified the same 3. Jackson, Rudolph and Allen are a tier below because they require alot of develpment.

Edited February 17, 2018 by horned dogs

[RochesterRob]

1 hour ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

It really is like Schoop and Bulldog tweeting.

 

 

To me, living in Colorado for many decades, this is news worthwhile for bills fans.

You guys got to realize that other teams (and their fans) have the same ideas we do.

 

I jokingly told some Bronco friends of mine that the Bills are going to jump to #2.

They got pissed and said Elway better not let that happen.

FWIW

  And this is why I have felt for a while now and indicated last week that 3 high picks will not get it done for the Bills.  Think of it in terms of the game of Monopoly.  Denver has the greens (Pacific, North Carolina) and we are offering down in the purples (St Charles Place).

[Hapless Bills Fan]

2 hours ago, sven233 said:

Benjamin Allbright‏Verified account @AllbrightNFL

#Bills have been calling around, pursuing potential trade partners in the top ten of this year's draft. Presumably for a shot at a quarterback.

 

Been saying it from the start.....  WHATEVER IT TAKES. It's time for the everyone to stop accepting below average QB play and start expecting greatness.  Whatever it takes to get one of Darnold, Rosen, or Mayfield.

 

If it works, that's awesome and we're set.  And you know what?  If it doesn't......there is a Draft every single year and we can try again.  But it's time for the organization to find the guy they want and take a swing.....

 

Ugh, this Allbright is the Denver radio dude who thinks we're trying to move up to draft Allen.

[ColoradoBills]

11 minutes ago, baskingridgebillsfan said:

other teams want to move up no doubt.  There is no way the giants will trade with the Jets.   I think the Bills can outbid everyone else but the broncos.  If Cousins goes to Denver then we might have a chance 

we did when Whaley was in charge , then it was they will take one in the mid rounds 

 

I hear you.  It's still so early in the year that nothing can be figured out yet.

For every, Cousins to Denver scenario there is a Cousins to Minnesota.

We all just have to wait.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

56 minutes ago, 1st&ten said:

The Bills & about 7 other teams. Just testing the waters.

 

Well, yes, and (I'm guessing) possibly trying to move up pre-draft for a player trade, so that trade partners can vet the players.

I would guess the Bills try to swap a 1st and a player or 3 to move up towards 8 or so, leaving them in position to swap up further on draft day if they can find a partner.

[ColoradoBills]

3 minutes ago, RochesterRob said:

  And this is why I have felt for a while now and indicated last week that 3 high picks will not get it done for the Bills.  Think of it in terms of the game of Monopoly.  Denver has the greens (Pacific, North Carolina) and we are offering down in the purples (St Charles Place).

 

Ha, great analogy.  Arizona has the red (Illinois Ave) and the Jets Have the yellows (Marvin Gardens, but they have no Hotels)!

 

I don't know why, but I always wanted the Wheelbarrow.

[3rdand12]

2 hours ago, Seanbillsfan2206 said:

Have you? Have you been saying it from the start? What other wisdom do you have for us?

why the neg brah? 

[MC Hamburg]

2 hours ago, BrooklynBills said:

This would be a setup to get to #2 IMO.

 

Something like 21, 53, Shaq Lawson to CHI for 8.

Then 8, 22, Glenn, 19 2nd for 2

I wouldnt doubt Beane has already talked to Gettleman and was told get a top 10 pick and we have the framework for a deal

 

This is the post that makes the most sense to me..thanks BB    thats thinking outside the box which should be the route the Bills should go to get their QB

[Zerovoltz]

....All this speculation is further ammo for the idea that the Bills should be all in on Kirk Cousins.  Sitting there at 21&22, having to speculate on A) that you can find a trading partner and B) that the guy you have identified will be there to trade up for, is a whole lot of uncertainty to be betting on come draft day.  All Cousins costs is money, and his contract will seem steep at first, but it will fall right in line with the leauge in short order.  He has proven to be able to produce with a sub par roster and broken O-line.  If I were the Bills, he would be option one, then use the draft capital to start building with others and their cheap contracts.  For what it's worth, I do think Cleveland is going to win the Kirk Cousins sweepstakes.  Again, all he costs is money.

[jahnyc]

Do we know if Rosen will want to play for the Bills?  Seems like he had issues with the Browns.

[BillsFan17]

Also makes mention that we have interest in Allen.

[Real McClappy]

Call up Frank Reich and offer up both our firsts this year and one next year and secure the 3rd overall spot and we will get our QB.

The Colts would be damn fools not to trade back this year and could prob get Glenn out of it as well.

Edited February 17, 2018 by Real McCoy

[26CornerBlitz]

 

[RochesterRob]

11 minutes ago, MC Hamburg said:

 

This is the post that makes the most sense to me..thanks BB    thats thinking outside the box which should be the route the Bills should go to get their QB

  21, 53, and Shaq Lawson will not get us to 8.  Maybe to 11 or 12.  With Barkely, Chubb, presumably 3 QB's in the top 5-6 teams sitting at 7-10 will know enough to charge more of a premium.  Lawson is maybe worth a late second pick as he cannot plug into any and every defensive scheme.

[FearLess Price]

Sounds like were pulling an eagles. Trading to the top 10 then trading into the top 5 for Rosen, Darnold, or Mayfield. 

[transplantbillsfan]

Obviously.

 

I can't believe this is a surprise to anyone in any way. It's been written on the wall for months now.

3 hours ago, Fadingpain said:

Don't be an !@#$.

 

Plenty of members here believe the Bills will not draft a QB and will instead use our picks to build up team depth of quality, and many posters here want this to happen.

 

Information saying the Bills are working the phones to get into the top 10 is interesting and just another sign that they really are going to try and get one of the bigger named QBs in the draft.

 

Work on being not an !@#$.

 

Really?

 

On this message board?

 

Who?

[Big C]

58 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

 

Don't like this. 

[Chicken Boo]

You lost me at Mayfield, but ok cool.

[BigBuff423]

If they’re going all in on a QB to move up, it would seem 1. Has to be Rosen or Darnold & 2. They have a “bridge” Vet QB they think they can get to hold the spot for 2 years

[DriveFor1Outta5]

2 hours ago, jahnyc said:

Do we know if Rosen will want to play for the Bills?  Seems like he had issues with the Browns.

This is a fair question to ask. The answer likely depends on Rosen’s motives for having an issue with potentially becoming a Brown. Was his statement based on a desire to play in New York? Or is it based on going to the Browns being a career ending curse?  The Browns franchise is a train wreck that isn’t close to fielding a winner.

 

We finally have a sense of stability, and are a playoff team. Looking at things from the standpoint of potential to win; Buffalo is finally a decent place to go. I don’t see why Rosen would have the same issue with Buffalo that he has with Cleveland. With that said, if Rosen is a prima donna, he may want to sit behind Eli while waiting to become the next big thing in NY. 

[turftoe]

6 hours ago, BrooklynBills said:

This would be a setup to get to #2 IMO.

 

Something like 21, 53, Shaq Lawson to CHI for 8.

Then 8, 22, Glenn, 19 2nd for 2

I wouldnt doubt Beane has already talked to Gettleman and was told get a top 10 pick and we have the framework for a deal

This is the way Philadelphia moved up to get Wentz, first trading up with Miami to get to pick number 8.

[MrEpsYtown]

4 hours ago, jahnyc said:

Do we know if Rosen will want to play for the Bills?  Seems like he had issues with the Browns.

This is what Rosen actually said:

"I'd rather be a lower pick at the right team than a higher at the wrong team." 

 

Obviously this implies he doesn't want to go to the Browns, but the media really twisted this making him sound like a big jerk. With Buffalo coming off a playof berth and some newfound stability, I don't see why we would be an issue. 

[BillsFan4]

5 hours ago, Zerovotlz said:

....All this speculation is further ammo for the idea that the Bills should be all in on Kirk Cousins.  Sitting there at 21&22, having to speculate on A) that you can find a trading partner and B) that the guy you have identified will be there to trade up for, is a whole lot of uncertainty to be betting on come draft day.  All Cousins costs is money, and his contract will seem steep at first, but it will fall right in line with the leauge in short order.  He has proven to be able to produce with a sub par roster and broken O-line.  If I were the Bills, he would be option one, then use the draft capital to start building with others and their cheap contracts.  For what it's worth, I do think Cleveland is going to win the Kirk Cousins sweepstakes.  Again, all he costs is money.

I'm hoping that this is the Bills plan #1. Make a good run at Cousins when the tampering period opens March 12th. If they land him, perfect. Use the draft to build around him on both sides of the ball. If not, then go hard after one of their top QBs in the draft.

 

 

But even if that is the plan I just don't have much confidence that Cousins picks Buffalo. I think he'd be a great fit with McDermott. Both are all about "the process". From what I've read (about both), they seem to share a lot of similar traits and viewpoints. I think it'd be a good match. But I guess I have a hard time believing that he'd pick Buffalo over some place like Denver or Minnesota (if they decide to get involved), who are both recent Super Bowl contenders. 

 

I don't see Cleveland happening either because I dont think its just all about money for Cousins. If it is, then I can see him picking Cleveland. But I think he wants to win and wants competent ownership + coaching and stability (in the coaching staff, front office etc). I think Cleveland will be a hard sell. I may be totally wrong and Cousins just caves to a ridiculous offer form them... I guess we will see in a little less than a month. I'll be anxiously watching! 

[BillsFan4]

5 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Allen is the one 1st round QB prospect that I am probably most leery of. He seems like the biggest boom or bust QB, and his accuracy issues are what scare me the most.

 

But It'd be a heck of a swing for the fences type move by the Bills though, if they went into the top 10 for this guy. But I'm not sure we are the best place to try and develop this guy. 

 

Id rather the Jets just take him. He seems like a Maccagnan type QB. Reminds me a little bit of Hackenberg with his height (6'4" Hack, 6'5" Allen), their big arms, flashes of brilliance (less so with Hack) and accuracy issues. I'm not saying they are the same QB by any means. Just that he does shares some traits with Hackenberg and Mac fell in love and reached for him. I could totally see him taking Allen at #6.

[Logic]

1 minute ago, BillsFan4 said:

Allen is the one 1st round QB prospect that I am probably most leery of. He seems like the biggest boom or bust QB, and his accuracy issues are what scare me the most.

 

But It'd be a heck of a swing for the fences type move by the Bills though, if they went into the top 10 for this guy. But I'm not sure we are the best place to try and develop this guy. 

 

Id rather the Jets just take him. He seems like a Maccagnan type QB. Reminds me a little bit of Hackenberg with his height (6'4" Hack, 6'5" Allen), their big arms, flashes of brilliance (less so with Hack) and accuracy issues. I'm not saying they are the same QB by any means. Just that he does shares some traits with Hackenberg and Mac fell in love and reached for him. I could totally see him taking Allen at #6.

I agree that out of the top 5 QBs, Allen is the one I am most leery of. Big arm, great athleticism, bad accuracy. Losman and Manuel all over again.

I personally want Mayfield, but would be happy with Darnold or Rosen as well. Allen, though? Yuck.

[Buffalo Barbarian]

10 hours ago, sven233 said:

Benjamin Allbright‏Verified account @AllbrightNFL

#Bills have been calling around, pursuing potential trade partners in the top ten of this year's draft. Presumably for a shot at a quarterback.

 

Been saying it from the start.....  WHATEVER IT TAKES. It's time for the everyone to stop accepting below average QB play and start expecting greatness.  Whatever it takes to get one of Darnold, Rosen, or Mayfield.

 

If it works, that's awesome and we're set.  And you know what?  If it doesn't......there is a Draft every single year and we can try again.  But it's time for the organization to find the guy they want and take a swing.....

 

Love seeing this smoke, means there is action on the Bills part to finally getting a freaking QB!! Go Bills!!!

 

 

 

[Punching Bag]

10 hours ago, sven233 said:

Benjamin Allbright‏Verified account @AllbrightNFL

#Bills have been calling around, pursuing potential trade partners in the top ten of this year's draft. Presumably for a shot at a quarterback.

 

Been saying it from the start.....  WHATEVER IT TAKES. It's time for the everyone to stop accepting below average QB play and start expecting greatness.  Whatever it takes to get one of Darnold, Rosen, or Mayfield.

 

If it works, that's awesome and we're set.  And you know what?  If it doesn't......there is a Draft every single year and we can try again.  But it's time for the organization to find the guy they want and take a swing.....

 

If you advocate trading both of our 1st round picks AND next years pick to trade up it will be a while before they can try again certainly not next year.

[NastyNateSoldiers]

9 hours ago, McBean said:

 

 

All signs are pointing towards Josh Rosen.

 

I believe we've identified him as the face of this franchise for the next 10+ years..

I don't deny his skill set but man those concussions are concerning . Plus he has injury history since high school.  I wouldn't trade up for damaged goods. 

[GunnerBill]

The Bills are trading up for a Quaterback. I am absolutely convinced that is the plan. Have been since Beane's Senior Bowl interview where he referred to that without being asked. 

 

 

Edited February 18, 2018 by GunnerBill

[BrooklynBills]

8 hours ago, RochesterRob said:

  21, 53, and Shaq Lawson will not get us to 8.  Maybe to 11 or 12.  With Barkely, Chubb, presumably 3 QB's in the top 5-6 teams sitting at 7-10 will know enough to charge more of a premium.  Lawson is maybe worth a late second pick as he cannot plug into any and every defensive scheme.

That's true but he is a great fit for CHI as they need a OLB opposite Floyd and that guy does not need to be a dynamic pass rusher because that guy will always be Floyd on that team. It allows them to get a starter on D and address other needs in the top 50.

 

Lawson could also fit in with Tampa.

Edited February 18, 2018 by BrooklynBills

[purple haze]

10 hours ago, Zerovotlz said:

....All this speculation is further ammo for the idea that the Bills should be all in on Kirk Cousins.  Sitting there at 21&22, having to speculate on A) that you can find a trading partner and B) that the guy you have identified will be there to trade up for, is a whole lot of uncertainty to be betting on come draft day.  All Cousins costs is money, and his contract will seem steep at first, but it will fall right in line with the leauge in short order.  He has proven to be able to produce with a sub par roster and broken O-line.  If I were the Bills, he would be option one, then use the draft capital to start building with others and their cheap contracts.  For what it's worth, I do think Cleveland is going to win the Kirk Cousins sweepstakes.  Again, all he costs is money.

Cousins said winning is the most important thing he's looking for.  Won't be the Browns if that's the case.  He will make a lot of money wherever he goes. 

[CajunBillsBacker]

If it’s top 10 and not top 2, I have a feeling the target is Josh Allen. Unless of course the plan is to trade up twice.

Edited February 18, 2018 by CajunBillsBacker

[MJS]

13 hours ago, McBean said:

I'm just glad we finally have a FO and HC who realizes without a QB you aren't a consistent winner in this league.

 

Yeah, because I'm pretty sure previous regimes didn't know that at all. They hated good QB's, right?

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

Every unpopular move that was made last year was thought to be done so that we can get our QB this year. At this point, I would be pissed if we don’t move up.

[Don't stop billievein]

I might be in the minority but I bet they like baker Mayfield! I don’t think they can get into the top 2 and I strongly believe Denver ends up with Cousins. Denver may end up as our trade partner.