Eric Galko of Optimum Scouting: Bills love Rosen (updated with new info)

[Wsam4031]

2 hours ago, FeelingOnYouboty said:

I've heard Buffalo likes Kyle Lauletta-QB Richmond as well. I've been tweeting about him for months so I was super excited to see him do well during Senior Bowl week. I think he's a 2nd Rounder.

I agree I think this kid is a baller. Ive heard the pats do too. I wouldn't even be upset if we couldn't trade up if we waited and tried to get this kid in the 2nd

[Augie]

3 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

....good assessment and I agree..........just a hunch Beane picks Rudolph at 21/22..............plays his draft capital conservatively as well as FA dollars......don't see him doing major investment(s) in a single player.....

 

I wonder where Rudolph would rank on the list above? I admit I was intrigued by a couple early season games I saw him in. How much was the system, lousy defenses and his WR’s? No idea. 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

...Casserly said last night on NFLN that Rosen is the best "pro ready QB" but still ranks him 2nd behind Darnold......said that Eli probably plays two more years and Rosen sitting for those two is a waste.......

[Augie]

2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

 

I will give you the concussion part of the argument. But not the personality attack sorry

 

The concussion part concerns me a lot, too. I’d overpay for the right guy.  I’d be more nervous about his long term availability than his ability. 

[BillsFan4]

Man, I have been daydreaming about this all day now (ever since I first read this thread). I would be pumped to get any of the top 3 QBs in this draft (Rosen, Darnold and Mayfield). Rosen never really even seemed like a possibility though. 

 

I still think its its a long shot, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't have my hopes up at least a little bit. 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

1 minute ago, Augie said:

 

I wonder where Rudolph would rank on the list above? I admit I was intrigued by a couple early season games I saw him in. How much was the system, lousy defenses and his WR’s? No idea. 

 

...good question bud.......at times, he seems like an afterthought.......early on, Falk was in the discussions and absolutely disappeared from the radar.......maybe I'm reading too much into it, but McBeane personally scouted Rudolph twice, first at the WVU game and then his bowl game.....several mocks have the kid there at 21/22 while others do not even have him in the 1st.....from what I've read, he seems to be a safe but perhaps unsexy pick at 21/22, so we'll have to wait for McBeane.....stay tuned.....

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

21 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

The concussion part concerns me a lot, too. I’d overpay for the right guy.  I’d be more nervous about his long term availability than his ability. 

 

.....hell Augie, we signed Kolb as our vet presence despite being concussed FIVE times......no noodle left and trips over "The Mat"....top five worst hire in franchise history..........

[LABILLBACKER]

1 hour ago, Tatonka68 said:

Rosen interest is a ploy only. No way Bills ship two years worth of draft picks for a QB who is prone to concussions and is a self centered jerk. Bean and McDermott would be committing career suicide.

It would be career suicide and it was set the team back at least five years. Rosen is a nice enough kid but if he's just not that into football. Let the Browns & Giants fight over him.

2 hours ago, ndirish1978 said:

 

Complaining about the hotbed thing is ridiculous imo. Gronk had a hottub in college, he also bought the house he was living in and trashed it thrown insane parties. Is he spoiled and entitled? No, he's Gronk so he's just a meathead. Perception just works against this guy 

I'm sure Gronk would make a great cerebral qb. Almost Peyton worthy. Dribbler back to the mound....

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

1 minute ago, LABILLBACKER said:

It would be career suicide and it was set the team back at least five years. Rosen is a nice enough kid but if he's just not that into football. Let the Browns & Giants fight over him.

 

 

 

...perfect reference to the lack of the "head 'n heart" meter......invent that and you'll be an overnight billionaire......what's in his head?...can he process the speed and complexity of the game at this level?....what's in his heart?......the game?......the cash?.......the game first and the cash will be there?....the cash first and the game as an afterthought because "I cashed"?....the willingness to put in substantial work even after I get the cash?....paralysis by analysis STILL comes with NO warranties....was, is and forever will be a crap shoot..."with the next selection the Buffalo Bills choose....."......................

[BuffaloBillyG]

51 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

...Casserly said last night on NFLN that Rosen is the best "pro ready QB" but still ranks him 2nd behind Darnold......said that Eli probably plays two more years and Rosen sitting for those two is a waste.......

Didn't some draftniks say last year that Peterman was the most "Pro ready" QB in the draft?

 

I can see the Giants investing in a QB. Just not in round 1. Lauletta or White make the most sense to me for them.

[BADOLBILZ]

1 hour ago, jahnyc said:

I want the Bills to use the picks that they have in the draft.  They need quality starters, and with four picks in the first two rounds, we have the potential to get some good, young players and fill needs.  Having said that, I do understand trading up for a QB that they believe will be a long-term answer to our long-standing QB need, particularly since we will have our QB cost controlled for at least a few years and we will have a huge amount of cap space in 2019 to add quality free agents and fill holes.

 

 

Holes can be patched in free agency.

 

If the Bills get a franchise QB in this draft it would become no worse than their second best draft class ever.........the best being 1983 which yielded Jim Kelly and Daryl Talley.  

 

You can get 5 Pro Bowlers at various positions in a draft but QB so outweighs the value of the next tier of positions that it renders the conversation moot.

 

The Bills did exactly what you are saying you want in 2012 and came away with Gilmore, Glenn and Bradham out of their first 4 picks.........dudes who became outstanding players........but in the process they passed on Russell Wilson.    Nix clearly made a mistake thinking that drafting a QB early at that point in the organization's development was like putting the cart before the horse.

 

 

Edited February 14, 2018 by BADOLBILZ

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

Just now, KelsaysLunchbox said:

Didn't some draftniks say last year that Peterman was the most "Pro ready" QB in the draft?

 

I can see the Giants investing in a QB. Just not in round 1. Lauletta or White make the most sense to me for them.

 

...EXACTLY....Gruden said Peterman was "THE most ready NFL QB I've seen in years"......Brylcream Mel said he was the most likely to be the "Tom Brady of the 2017 class"....BUT in the kid's defense, he barely got his big toe NFL wet..but the TBD "One and Done Gang" already declared his era (WTF?) over and he's a bust.....I'd rather contract leprosy versus being drafted by Buffalo with these clowns judging me............

[BuffaloBillyG]

2 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

...EXACTLY....Gruden said Peterman was "THE most ready NFL QB I've seen in years"......Brylcream Mel said he was the most likely to be the "Tom Brady of the 2017 class"....BUT in the kid's defense, he barely got his big toe NFL wet..but the TBD "One and Done Gang" already declared his era (WTF?) over and he's a bust.....I'd rather contract leprosy versus being drafted by Buffalo with these clowns judging me............

I'm going to take it one step further in defense of Peterman. Guy has heart. Doesn't help that his main position coach is basically a WR coach. He's smart, he's still got potential. I could easily see him as a Todd Collins that developed a tad later in his career. But one thing he wasn't is ready for the speed of the game. No coincidence that his best game came in a blizzard when everyone else was slowed down.

[snamsnoops]

3 hours ago, Loosh said:

Because it will take at least 3 first round picks and more....the Bills will not be stupid enough to do it.   The Bills desperately need help at OL, WR, DL, LB, and RB.  The roster will have a have a huge turnover.   There will be a QB available without selling the farm.....and Beane will take him at 21 or 22.

If they feel a franchise QB is within reach.... I am fine with them doing what it takes. We still have two 2nd rounders this year, the rest of the draft and FA to fill holes. Getting a franchise QB on a 5 year rookie contract will help!

[GunnerBill]

44 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

It would be career suicide and it was set the team back at least five years. Rosen is a nice enough kid but if he's just not that into football. Let the Browns & Giants fight over him

 

So you would give the Eagles a 1st for Nick Foles but wouldn't take Josh Rosen? Interesting take. Think you might be on your own there. 

[Augie]

Once you have a Franchise QB you have a chance. Until you do.....you don’t. 

[MAJBobby]

1 hour ago, Augie said:

 

The concussion part concerns me a lot, too. I’d overpay for the right guy.  I’d be more nervous about his long term availability than his ability. 

 I get it as wel. But one thing is for sure NFL QBs get a ton more protection by rules than College QBs do

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

7 minutes ago, KelsaysLunchbox said:

I'm going to take it one step further in defense of Peterman. Guy has heart. Doesn't help that his main position coach is basically a WR coach. He's smart, he's still got potential. I could easily see him as a Todd Collins that developed a tad later in his career. But one thing he wasn't is ready for the speed of the game. No coincidence that his best game came in a blizzard when everyone else was slowed down.

 

...I do like what he has shown as far as the mental aspects of the game which is a far more important trait to me...the physical nature can be developed by the S&T staff......teaching mental and "speeding up the brain to adapt" is a huge question mark as far as attaining success.................

[BADOLBILZ]

4 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

 I get it as wel. But one thing is for sure NFL QBs get a ton more protection by rules than College QBs do

 

 

Not sure that can be emphasized enough.

 

It actually gets less dangerous for QB's when they reach the NFL.

 

And fwiw........Aaron Rodgers was on his 3rd or 4th bad concussion in 2010........and on his way out of the league.........when Goodell decided you couldn't hit QB's......or WR's in the middle of the field.....and began bludgeoning the Steelers defense with fines to emphasize the point.     7 years later concussions are no longer much of an issue for him.

Edited February 14, 2018 by BADOLBILZ

[Augie]

The Charger game was the LAST game Peterman should have been inserted. I like McD, but that was a boneheaded and ill-timed decision. I don’t know what’s true and what’s fiction, but if Dennison insisted on that he’s lucky to have made it through the season. Even if he wanted Peternam, he would have been wise to wait for another week. 

[MAJBobby]

6 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Not sure that can be emphasized enough.

 

It actually gets less dangerous for QB's when they reach the NFL.

 

And fwiw........Aaron Rodgers was on his 3rd or 4th bad concussion in 2010........and on his way out of the league.........when Goodell decided you couldn't hit QB's......or WR's in the middle of the field.....and began bludgeoning the Steelers defense with fines to emphasize the point.     7 years later concussions are no longer much of an issue for him.

 

Yep i agree. Hense why i am less concerned about concussions in this specific position on the football field. Specially if your QB isnt a run around QB and always keeps the QB protections. 

[MrEpsYtown]

Rosen has gotten his butt kicked playing football and still keeps playing. He's a rich kid who doesn't need football and still keeps playing. He could be doing a million other things but chooses to play football. 

 

To me, that means he loves football. Some guys play for the money, or a chance to make it out of the hood. What is he playing for? He must love it because football is hard and dangerous. 

 

Calling him a self-centered jerk is lazy. The things he said about college football, he was really trying to make a statement for those less fortunate than him. He was sticking up for the poor guys who play college football and get chewed up and spit out with nothing to show for it. He is in a position to speak for those who have less than him. I think he can come off as smug because he is intelligent and confident. 

 

Take the time to read some of his interviews. He is a really smart kid, who loves football, sticks up for his teammates, and it seems like guys love him from everything I've read. Pretty much everything he said about school, Trump, etc was all about sticking up for the little guy. I love this attitude for a quarterback. A guy who is willing to take the blame and will stick up for teammates. 

 

I would very very happy about a trade up. The injuries are a concern, but he's a perfect fit and we would be set for the next fifteen years. Take the time to look into those controversial interviews and make your own assessment. 

[FearLess Price]

2 hours ago, BillsFan4 said:

Man, I have been daydreaming about this all day now (ever since I first read this thread). I would be pumped to get any of the top 3 QBs in this draft (Rosen, Darnold and Mayfield). Rosen never really even seemed like a possibility though. 

 

I still think its its a long shot, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't have my hopes up at least a little bit. 

 

I know right? Im just happy they are actually thinking about trading up for a top 3 qb prospect

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

50 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

Rosen has gotten his butt kicked playing football and still keeps playing. He's a rich kid who doesn't need football and still keeps playing. He could be doing a million other things but chooses to play football. 

 

To me, that means he loves football. Some guys play for the money, or a chance to make it out of the hood. What is he playing for? He must love it because football is hard and dangerous. 

 

Calling him a self-centered jerk is lazy. The things he said about college football, he was really trying to make a statement for those less fortunate than him. He was sticking up for the poor guys who play college football and get chewed up and spit out with nothing to show for it. He is in a position to speak for those who have less than him. I think he can come off as smug because he is intelligent and confident. 

 

Take the time to read some of his interviews. He is a really smart kid, who loves football, sticks up for his teammates, and it seems like guys love him from everything I've read. Pretty much everything he said about school, Trump, etc was all about sticking up for the little guy. I love this attitude for a quarterback. A guy who is willing to take the blame and will stick up for teammates. 

 

I would very very happy about a trade up. The injuries are a concern, but he's a perfect fit and we would be set for the next fifteen years. Take the time to look into those controversial interviews and make your own assessment. 

Good post. The narrative about this kid is lazy and jealous by many. I'll take a player who is smart and talented any day. Who gives a **** if he has opinions.

[FearLess Price]

3 hours ago, KelsaysLunchbox said:

Has it worked for Dez? The dude that assaulted his own Mother? Who did they bring in to be his mentor? Sorry, I missed that...unless you mean Michael Irvin? 

 

Exactly breh! Dez was messing up BIG TIME! So they stepped in and gave him a support system. 

 

Link https://www.inquisitr.com/1710210/dallas-cowboys-dont-trust-dez-bryant-off-the-field-video/

 

Do you really thing Mayfields gonna be that bad off the field? Hell no! And If they feel like that they can make sure hes got the right people around him to give him a good influence.

 

Lol oh yeah i misunderstood you were talking about Rosen. IDC about his political beliefs. Just play good football, put the effort in to be the best and honor your contract.

 

Im more concerned about Rosens injury history. He had a bad concussion. And if the kid has a "me 1st I have a degree from UCLA i dont need this ****"  Type attitude we should steer clear.

 

 

 

Mayfield > Rosen based on overall talent, our current OL, and intangibles.

Ill be happy with either Rosen, Mayfield or Darnold tho.

 

[BillsFan4]

1 hour ago, MrEpsYtown said:

Rosen has gotten his butt kicked playing football and still keeps playing. He's a rich kid who doesn't need football and still keeps playing. He could be doing a million other things but chooses to play football. 

 

To me, that means he loves football. Some guys play for the money, or a chance to make it out of the hood. What is he playing for? He must love it because football is hard and dangerous. 

 

Calling him a self-centered jerk is lazy. The things he said about college football, he was really trying to make a statement for those less fortunate than him. He was sticking up for the poor guys who play college football and get chewed up and spit out with nothing to show for it. He is in a position to speak for those who have less than him. I think he can come off as smug because he is intelligent and confident. 

 

Take the time to read some of his interviews. He is a really smart kid, who loves football, sticks up for his teammates, and it seems like guys love him from everything I've read. Pretty much everything he said about school, Trump, etc was all about sticking up for the little guy. I love this attitude for a quarterback. A guy who is willing to take the blame and will stick up for teammates. 

 

I would very very happy about a trade up. The injuries are a concern, but he's a perfect fit and we would be set for the next fifteen years. Take the time to look into those controversial interviews and make your own assessment. 

 

30 minutes ago, horned dogs said:

Good post. The narrative about this kid is lazy and jealous by many. I'll take a player who is smart and talented any day. Who gives a **** if he has opinions.

 

Well said. 

 

And furthermore - with the emphasis that Beane and McDermott put on character, plus how overly thorough/detailed they are in their approach, if they have enough confidence in Rosen's character, then I am good too. 

 

Go back and listen to Beane's interview a few weeks ago when he discussed scouting QBs and everything they research. It sounds like he really digs deep into these players backgrounds and tries to cover every possible angle. 

 

One thing i know for sure - they dig way deeper into these kids than any of us internet message board people could ever even attempt. 

[Teddy KGB]

Is only one poster concerned about the hot tub or are there others ? ?

 

I’ll be ecstatic with Rosen, Darnold, or Mayfield

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

7 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said:

 

 

Well said. 

 

And furthermore - with the emphasis that Beane and McDermott put on character, plus how overly thorough/detailed they are in their approach, if they have enough confidence in Rosen's character, then I am good too. 

 

Go back and listen to Beane's interview a few weeks ago when he discussed scouting QBs and everything they research. It sounds like he really digs deep into these players backgrounds and tries to cover every possible angle. 

 

One thing i know for sure - they dig way deeper into these kids than any of us internet message board people could ever even attempt. 

This is really it in a nutshell!

[Doc Brown]

Just speculating, but as Schurmur as head coach the Giants may take a run at Teddy Bridgewater.  If they think he's the franchise guy they'd pry be interested in moving out of that 2nd pick.

[YoloinOhio]

17 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said:

Is only one poster concerned about the hot tub or are there others ? ?

 

I’ll be ecstatic with Rosen, Darnold, or Mayfield

The hot tub elevates his draft grade imo

[BuffaloBillyG]

42 minutes ago, FearLess Price said:

 

Exactly breh! Dez was messing up BIG TIME! So they stepped in and gave him a support system. 

 

Link https://www.inquisitr.com/1710210/dallas-cowboys-dont-trust-dez-bryant-off-the-field-video/

 

Do you really thing Mayfields gonna be that bad off the field? Hell no! And If they feel like that they can make sure hes got the right people around him to give him a good influence.

 

Lol oh yeah i misunderstood you were talking about Rosen. IDC about his political beliefs. Just play good football, put the effort in to be the best and honor your contract.

 

Im more concerned about Rosens injury history. He had a bad concussion. And if the kid has a "me 1st I have a degree from UCLA i dont need this ****"  Type attitude we should steer clear.

 

 

 

Mayfield > Rosen based on overall talent, our current OL, and intangibles.

Ill be happy with either Rosen, Mayfield or Darnold tho.

 

Yea, I'm with you on the Mayfield bus. Think he's going to be a great player. 

Just now, Doc Brown said:

Just speculating, but as Schurmur as head coach the Giants may take a run at Teddy Bridgewater.  If they think he's the franchise guy they'd pry be interested in moving out of that 2nd pick.

Here's the thing with Bridgewater in general. If the knee is good and he's a franchise guy...why in the world would the Vikings let him go? They have the option to franchise him, the can resign him over Bradford/Keenum if he's a franchise guy. If the Vikings let him go...there's a reason. 

 

Shurmur would likely have some firsthand knowledge of where his knee is at and where he is as a player. 

[YoloinOhio]

Here is a good summary of the Bills info from the podcast if you weren’t able to listen:

 

[Alphadawg7]

11 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

He says in his new podcast that he is hearing from talking to scouts and agents that the Bills love Josh Rosen and thinks they will trade up to 2 with the NYG to draft him. 

 

https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/nfl-draft-show-quarterback-carousel-update-plus-draft/id1276383397?i=1000402080073&mt=2

 

I certainly would be excited to land someone like Rosen.  Just hope we dont have to give too much up to do it.  If Cousins signs with Jets or Broncos, all of a sudden one or two QB's could slide to a cheaper spot.  All the talk is how Browns prefer Allen, so could mean that someone like Baker or even Darnold could start sliding down that top 10 where there are a number of potential trade partners that would be cheaper than #2.

 

But again, I definitely would be excited and wouldn't hate moving to #2, just would love to see us get a premium prospect while keeping as many draft picks as we can for the other holes.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

4 hours ago, Nihilarian said:

 

I think that is exactly the reason they hired QB guru Pat Shurmur, to find out if Eli is done or not. 

 

Looking back at the start of the 2017 season when the roster wasn't decimated by injuries and he had ODB, Brandon Marshall, Sterling Shepard, Evan Engram all healthy receiving. The team still started out 0-5. Eli looked like he has lost a step. Granted at the end of the 2017 season the Giants had 31 players on IR. They sure didn't start out with that many injuries and they stunk it up just the same.

 

Like I said, I do think they are morons should they pass on on a QB with that #2 pick (Rosen) only to find they will need to replace Eli in three years or less. Then perhaps they will need to give up three first-round picks to get a QB who may or may not develop into a franchise QB. Kinda foolish when they are sitting in the catbird's seat this year. 

 

Beckham missed the season opener with a L ankle "sprain" from preseason, and didn't seem to be his usual self in the 3 1/2 games he played before going out with a broken ankle.

Game 5 was the Chargers game where Shepard, Marshall, and ODBJ all went out.  In between, Manning rocked completion percentages of 69%, 75%, and 61% for a goodly amount of yards against some decent Ds.

 

Maybe you're right and Eli has lost a step.  If so, I'm sure Shurmur will tell them to pull the trigger on drafting a QB at #2 since they'll have OTAs before the draft.

But when you draft a QB, you're always drafting potential.  I could also see the argument that you've got a guy who has won 2 Superbowls, including 1 with a "meh" D,  and if you have a chance to trade down and bring in a ton of picks to support him you'd be nuts not to take advantage.

 

 

9 hours ago, RobH063 said:

 

I think you're 100% right! I seem to remember another QB that was selfish and arrogant and entitled that didn't embrace playing in Buffalo and instead played in Houston for a couple of years. Then fell in love with Buffalo once he got to Town. The guy I'm thinking of came from a Blue Collar background so Buffalo was a natural fit for his true personality. He wasn't the son of an Orthopedic surgeon father who was once a Nationally ranked Ice Skater and a Mother who is a former journalist who was once the Captain of the Princeton LaCrosse team. One young man knew what it meant to sweat and bleed and rub a little dirt on it and get back in the game. He now owns a Gold colored Sport Jacket. The other was born with a Silver spoon in his mouth. Great talent but not sure he would be a good fit in Buffalo. He may or may not one day also own a Gold colored Sport Jacket but either way, I doubt it would be from a career that was spent in Buffalo.

 

This makes it sound as though you're holding the kid's parents against him.

 

Entitlement in athletes comes from all backgrounds.  There are kids from poor backgrounds whose athletic talent has brought them adulation perks and special treatment from adults (fans coaches teachers) all their lives that are just as entitled.  There are kids from wealthy backgrounds who are expected to "toe the line".

 

Any football player who has been successful through the college level knows what it means to sweat and bleed and walk it off and get back in the game.

9 hours ago, DCOrange said:

Darnold, Mayfield, Allen, and Lamar.

 

I think you're a bit nuts.  I would be aghast if the Bills sold the farm to trade up for 3 of those 4. 

 

But I'm just going by film, stats and scouting, so I could be off.

Edited February 15, 2018 by Hapless Bills Fan

[BillsFan4]

Not sure if this is the same segment this thread is referring to, but here is Eric Galko on WHR with Howard and Jeremy -

 

http://www.wgr550.com/articles/news/galko-lot-teams-feel-buffalo-covets-josh-rosen

[BuffaloRush]

11 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

He says in his new podcast that he is hearing from talking to scouts and agents that the Bills love Josh Rosen and thinks they will trade up to 2 with the NYG to draft him. 

 

https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/nfl-draft-show-quarterback-carousel-update-plus-draft/id1276383397?i=1000402080073&mt=2

Ironically he also said that Whaley was a fan of Money Mitch Trubisky.  There goes the DeShaun Watson narrative for Whaley supporters

[Chicken Boo]

You wouldn't hear a peep from me if the Bills pull this off.  That would be epic if we got Rosen.

[3rdand12]

not real.

fun to spin though.

i will honestly fall off my chair if Bills go up into the top five.

 Top fifteen maybe . But Bills trading away the ability to fill  ALL the holes upcoming decently means they likely need all their picks. And us a couple to trade out of ? sure.
But not multiples to get the QB. Not this season. IMHO.

Thicken up the the roster a good bit this year and when the dead money falls off ? Go for it. 

1 minute ago, Chicken Boo said:

You wouldn't hear a peep from me if the Bills pull this off.  That would be epic if we got Rosen.

If they go for it?I am cool with that. Just seems out of character and too soon in the McBeanes career.

 First clean draft by them and all.

[ctk232]

12 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

He says in his new podcast that he is hearing from talking to scouts and agents that the Bills love Josh Rosen and thinks they will trade up to 2 with the NYG to draft him. 

 

https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/nfl-draft-show-quarterback-carousel-update-plus-draft/id1276383397?i=1000402080073&mt=2

unpopular opinion, but please...don't move up to draft rosen

[BuffaloBaumer]

No way in hell Bills get to #2 spot.....No way

Giants would Never trade that far down and there are way too many teams to leap