bkep32 Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Per profootball talk, chief GM to maybe clean house on aging high expensive player. Justin Houston 29, could be up for trade. Would this be a guy we would be intersted in? He had a couple injuries past few seasons to limit production. Maybe one of our 2nds, if chiefs are really wanted to get younger and cheaper on the def side of the ball. Would nice to have him causing havoc on the outside instead of alexander. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 No trades for at least a year when it involves draft picks 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 I believe he's always been a 3 4 guy..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Way too expensive. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 He's not worth the cap hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkep32 Posted February 11, 2018 Author Share Posted February 11, 2018 fair enough to all, was just kinda putting it out there, thought it was an interesting look. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 I read the same article purging the old guys and the High dollars. I do not feel Bills are interested in either ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 11 minutes ago, bkep32 said: fair enough to all, was just kinda putting it out there, thought it was an interesting look. It is. Justin has been one whale of a player i would have loved to have on the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruiserplayer Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 He could very well be gone. Chiefs save 8 mill against cap this year by trading or cutting him. I’d say he will he definitely be gone as of next year unless he has a monster year (14 mill in savings). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodman19 Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 How about we try to develop our own star players and keep them in their prime instead of always wanting to trade for ones who are past theirs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Love to have him but $15M base salary makes him of no trade value, IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 No thanks,we will fill in defensive holes with our picks and some average salary fa's.15 mill..??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 2 hours ago, wppete said: Way too expensive. 7/15/2015: Signed a six-year, $101 million contract. The deal contains $52.5 million guaranteed, including a $20.5 million signing bonus. 2018: $14.75 million (+ $250,000 workout bonus), 2019: $15.25 million (+ $250,000 workout bonus), 2020: $17 million (+ $500,000 workout bonus), 2021: Free Agent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Pass.... we need to get younger and cheaper for us to be set in a good model moving foward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 I wish we'd got him back in 2011 at pick 68 instead of Kelvin Sheppard. But now, I'd pass. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 I'd love to have him (assuming !cD felt he was a scheme fit), but the Bills are just not in a position to take on his cap hit. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/justin-houston-7789/ Im not sure if it'd be less if her were traded (im assuming it probably would), but right now he's set to count $20 million against the cap in 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakin Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 1 hour ago, hemma said: I wish we'd got him back in 2011 at pick 68 instead of Kelvin Sheppard. But now, I'd pass. Then we wouldn’t have Hughes!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChopBlockKCKS Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Yeah, maybe the Bills can get Ragland back to if they threw in some more picks. Houston was a monster before his injury, not so much now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Bakin said: Then we wouldn’t have Hughes!! Bingo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 I’d prefer young and cheap to old and expensive. The Bills need to get younger. Leave it to others who feel they might be one player away from a ring. We have to build a core, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, Augie said: I’d prefer young and cheap to old and expensive. The Bills need to get younger. Leave it to others who feel they might be one player away from a ring. We have to build a core, IMO. ...FINALLY admitted why you don't like me....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 I love the way Houston plays but I don't think he'd fit with what McD is doing... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 10 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...FINALLY admitted why you don't like me....... Hey, don’t take it personal! Yes, those are on the list, but not even near the top! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 I liked Houston coming out of college. However, no 2nd round pick for an aging player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 He’s a good player but a bad scheme fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 12 minutes ago, Augie said: Hey, don’t take it personal! Yes, those are on the list, but not even near the top! ....how 'bout if I'm old and INexpensive?....am I in?............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 1 hour ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....how 'bout if I'm old and INexpensive?....am I in?............ That depends on what we get....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerovoltz Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Considering his injury history and his price tag, I doubt anyone would trade for him, and considering all the dead money involved with cutting him, I don't see us (KC) cutting him. What most folks don't realize about Houston in the 2017 season, was that due to injuries to Eric Berry, lack of LB depth and speed, and really poor CB play opposite Marcus Peters, we literally had Houston drop into coverage almost every play. Houston is a very good all around player, but he isn't being paid all that money to be a coverage LB....Many fans were very unhappy about how he was utilized this season. I would expect he will remain a Chief and will be once again utilized as what he does best, wich is rush the passer. IF he doesn't do well in 2018, they will look to part ways, and next year, they can absorb that cap hit easier if need be. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 8 hours ago, bkep32 said: Per profootball talk, chief GM to maybe clean house on aging high expensive player. Justin Houston 29, could be up for trade. Would this be a guy we would be intersted in? He had a couple injuries past few seasons to limit production. Maybe one of our 2nds, if chiefs are really wanted to get younger and cheaper on the def side of the ball. Would nice to have him causing havoc on the outside instead of alexander. Not a lot of pass rushers in this draft he would be a huge get for us. 8 hours ago, 3rdand12 said: I read the same article purging the old guys and the High dollars. I do not feel Bills are interested in either ? Maybe we can get him latter when he doesn't get his asking price? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 He’s a rich mans jerry Hughes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Houston isn't a fit for the defense and his contract is hefty. Look for the Pats to be in on this though because their pass rush was terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 10 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Not a lot of pass rushers in this draft he would be a huge get for us. Maybe we can get him latter when he doesn't get his asking price? I think they might be looking for youth over exp. I think they may have a teachable program. Unlike Rex.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 (edited) maybe a swap of cordy for houston could work salary cap wise but Seattle will probably be where he (Cordy) is traded to Edited February 12, 2018 by IgotBILLStopay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 17 hours ago, hemma said: I wish we'd got him back in 2011 at pick 68 instead of Kelvin Sheppard. But now, I'd pass. I almost smashed my Tv when they didn't take him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 12 hours ago, Zerovotlz said: Considering his injury history and his price tag, I doubt anyone would trade for him, and considering all the dead money involved with cutting him, I don't see us (KC) cutting him. What most folks don't realize about Houston in the 2017 season, was that due to injuries to Eric Berry, lack of LB depth and speed, and really poor CB play opposite Marcus Peters, we literally had Houston drop into coverage almost every play. Houston is a very good all around player, but he isn't being paid all that money to be a coverage LB....Many fans were very unhappy about how he was utilized this season. I would expect he will remain a Chief and will be once again utilized as what he does best, wich is rush the passer. IF he doesn't do well in 2018, they will look to part ways, and next year, they can absorb that cap hit easier if need be. Thanks, good points, makes sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearLess Price Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 The cap hit is crazy. I think this regime is gonna start getting younger LBs to develop in the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 4 hours ago, 3rdand12 said: I think they might be looking for youth over exp. I think they may have a teachable program. Unlike Rex.. Still need the talent through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 3-4 OLB, would need to be a 4-3 DE and that's really not his thing. Bad fit for him poistion-wise and he's super expensive. Why someone would want to pay 14-15M for a DE and then cry about paying cousin 27M is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 1 hour ago, ndirish1978 said: 3-4 OLB, would need to be a 4-3 DE and that's really not his thing. Bad fit for him poistion-wise and he's super expensive. Why someone would want to pay 14-15M for a DE and then cry about paying cousin 27M is beyond me. I can easily see him getting paid less than that number by someone who has a good fit for him 7 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Still need the talent through. I agree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston's #1 Bills Fan Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 On 2/11/2018 at 12:11 PM, Woodman19 said: How about we try to develop our own star players and keep them in their prime instead of always wanting to trade for ones who are past theirs? Do we have any? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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