Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 With each passing day I have less confidence in our ability to draft a good qb. Admittedly I don’t know much about mccarron , though. Anyone got the skinny on this guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Because AJ McCarron cannot make a play? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: Because AJ McCarron cannot make a play? Boom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfanAZ Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, joesixpack said: With each passing day I have less confidence in our ability to draft a good qb. Admittedly I don’t know much about mccarron , though. Anyone got the skinny on this guy? You have less confidence in drafting a QB but you have confidence in McCarron? It is going to be a long off season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 8 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Dan Orlovsky's opinion of McCarron for anyone who's advocating for him as the Bills' next starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 14 minutes ago, joesixpack said: With each passing day I have less confidence in our ability to draft a good qb. Admittedly I don’t know much about mccarron , though. Anyone got the skinny on this guy? ...first step is to see results of Feb. 15 RFA vs UFA arbitrator ruling......several pundits say RFA so then you'll have to see tenders............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Andy Dalton has, for the last what, 6 years been looked at as the definition of average. "The Andy Dalton scale". Not bad. Not good. Just the tepid water of the NFL starting QB scale. And at no point has AJ McCarron made a serious push to unseat that. Now, I understand he may (or may not) be an improvement over what we have now, but what aim for a guy that can't even rise above average? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasovon Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 See Mike Glennon for why you don't go after a mediocre team's backup QB. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Rob Johnson, Scott Mitchell and others come to mind when I hear McCarron’s name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I would sign aj mccarron so he can share his vast knowledge with my rookie QB... Then tell my rookie "see what he's doing there? Do the exact opposite" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills1212 Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Why Not? The correct question is why? I'm no qb expert, and 2 years back I loved the guy. But, as mentioned above... If you can't at least push mr avg, it stands to reason it's bc he is below avg.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 15 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said: Rob Johnson, Scott Mitchell and others come to mind when I hear McCarron’s name. I might be wrong in the end, but at least your guys actually flashed something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gomper Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Why hasn't he seen the field? Look at the acumen of their coach. McCarron is definitely worth a look if it's at a reasonable deal. There is a reason why he is appealing to the league to change his status to free agent. Cincy won't let him go. Why is that if he's just another replaceable backup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 I wouldn't give anything up to get him. I also put him either below or on par with Glennon and McCown as QBs I'd rather go into 2018 with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman1876 Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jasovon said: See Mike Glennon for why you don't go after a mediocre team's backup QB. At least you can say Glennon’s Name to the tune of “By Mennen.” So he’s got that going for him. Edited February 2, 2018 by Batman1876 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 26 minutes ago, Batman1876 said: At least you can say Glennon’s Name to the tune of “By Mennen.” So he’s got that going for him. Well, he has that going for him, which is nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Because he stinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Let’s try something new and not go after another backup QB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Realistically, good QBs seldom hit FA. Mostly they're back ups, and not necessarily good ones. Cousins is the best FA QB since Peyton was released by Indy. Before that, the best QB to hit FA was Brees. However much some fans may not like it, Taylor may be the best the Bills can do for a veteran QB. Cousins is the only likely FA who would be better, and he's going to command big $$$. Bradford would be better but how long are his gimpy knees going to hold up? The preseason? Half a season? One game? Both Glennon and McKown are career backups. Cutting Taylor and bringing in McCarron is the definition of cutting off your nose to spite your face. Taylor is not "the answer" but he's certainly better than McCarron. Maybe the Bills can bring back Thad Lewis ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman1876 Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, SoTier said: Realistically, good QBs seldom hit FA. Mostly they're back ups, and not necessarily good ones. Cousins is the best FA QB since Peyton was released by Indy. Before that, the best QB to hit FA was Brees. However much some fans may not like it, Taylor may be the best the Bills can do for a veteran QB. Cousins is the only likely FA who would be better, and he's going to command big $$$. Bradford would be better but how long are his gimpy knees going to hold up? The preseason? Half a season? One game? Both Glennon and McKown are career backups. Cutting Taylor and bringing in McCarron is the definition of cutting off your nose to spite your face. Taylor is not "the answer" but he's certainly better than McCarron. Maybe the Bills can bring back Thad Lewis ... If we are going to have a former Bills starter who is a t best a passable backup I’d rather bring back Fitz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 what is with you people? He's a career backup. Might as well stick with Peterman. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 why don't we make a move for Matt Moore? /s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderweb Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 7 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said: Because AJ McCarron cannot make a play? Recall the Bengals - Steelers playoff game 2-3 years back? McCarron had positioned the Bengals well for their 1st playoff win under Lewis only to be undone by Jeremy Hill's fumble with minutes left and then a super bonehead penalty by Burfict giving the Steelers thier FG for the win? He looked pretty good in the 4th QTR with the game on the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 11 hours ago, Spiderweb said: Recall the Bengals - Steelers playoff game 2-3 years back? McCarron had positioned the Bengals well for their 1st playoff win under Lewis only to be undone by Jeremy Hill's fumble with minutes left and then a super bonehead penalty by Burfict giving the Steelers thier FG for the win? He looked pretty good in the 4th QTR with the game on the line. Yeah, and Rob Johnson and Matt Flynn both looked great in a single game ... if I had a $1 for every crappy QB in the last 25 years who looked good for a quarter or even an entire game and then sucked when given a chance to be a regular starter, I could have retired a decade earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderweb Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 12 minutes ago, SoTier said: Yeah, and Rob Johnson and Matt Flynn both looked great in a single game ... if I had a $1 for every crappy QB in the last 25 years who looked good for a quarter or even an entire game and then sucked when given a chance to be a regular starter, I could have retired a decade earlier. It wasn't an endorsement, merely a counterpoint to those who simply wrote him off. He is a very unknown quantity yet in a playoff game, in the 4th QTR, against a tough team, he came through. Rob Johnson's big game that led Buffalo to acquire him was not that type of game. Apples to oranges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman1876 Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 22 minutes ago, Spiderweb said: It wasn't an endorsement, merely a counterpoint to those who simply wrote him off. He is a very unknown quantity yet in a playoff game, in the 4th QTR, against a tough team, he came through. Rob Johnson's big game that led Buffalo to acquire him was not that type of game. Apples to oranges. So it was more like Rob's game against a tough Titan's team in the playoffs when Johnson put us into position to win were it not for a miracle kick return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Because this is reportedly one of the deepest QB draft classes in a very very long time and we can probably get our long term answer at the position there. Why is everyone obsessed with blaaaahhhh vet QBs who basically don't stand a chance of being Elite? Time to stop settling for diamonds in the rough we find through trade or FA or late in the draft (Edwards, Fitz, Tyrod) and shoot for the stars and trade UP in the 1st round (thinking back to the fact that we traded down for a QB no one seemed to want still makes me kinda sick) to get whichever QB we want. There might be 6 1st round QBs this year. That's crazy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 I think the top 5 or 6 QB's in this draft will be better pros than McCarron. This is the year to draft a QB even if we sit and make no trades upward. As for having a vet in here to help until the rookie is ready we would want someone better that McCarron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodneykm Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 What would he cost? If its say, a 6th then sure. Bring him in and let him compete with whomever we draft / sign and Peterman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 15 minutes ago, rodneykm said: What would he cost? If its say, a 6th then sure. Bring him in and let him compete with whomever we draft / sign and Peterman. I'd almost rather have Glennon or McCown. Especially if they're a lot cheaper. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&ten Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 19 hours ago, gomper said: Why hasn't he seen the field? Look at the acumen of their coach. McCarron is definitely worth a look if it's at a reasonable deal. There is a reason why he is appealing to the league to change his status to free agent. Cincy won't let him go. Why is that if he's just another replaceable backup? Maybe because they are a loser organization that doesn't know what the hell they're doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 20 hours ago, Jasovon said: See Mike Glennon for why you don't go after a mediocre team's backup QB. We really don't need to look that far. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasovon Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, Gugny said: We really don't need to look that far. Hah that's true but we didn't trade for Tyrod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KW95 - JA17 Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 I still think with a new offensive coordinator we can mold Tyrod into something special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 I know I am biased because I'm a huge Alabama fan but I really think McCarron would be a good NFL QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 I'm biased because he's got a hot wife AND a hot mom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said: Why is everyone obsessed with blaaaahhhh vet QBs who basically don't stand a chance of being Elite? like the one they have had on the team for the last 3 years? 20 hours ago, Jasovon said: See Mike Glennon for why you don't go after a mediocre team's backup QB. a mistake this team made 3 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 What has AJ ever done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 10 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: What has AJ ever done? He did con a really hot girl into having sex with him. So it's not as though he has done nothing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasovon Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 23 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: like the one they have had on the team for the last 3 years? a mistake this team made 3 years ago. We didn't trade for Tyrod and he has been a top 20 QB since he got here which is hardly the same as being benched for a rookie after 3 games. Tyrod isn;t the answer but he also isn't a huge bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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