mjt328 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 I cannot think of a player more worthless. He's not a good blocker. He's too slow to get anything running the ball, unless there is a massive hole right up the gut. He can't catch and he fumbles too much. Yet this doesn't stop Rick Dennison from using him like a Swiss Army Knife. Watch him get no yards on FB dive! Watch him lose 5 yards on a FB screen! Watch him split out into the slot and drop the ball! I wouldn't be surprised if we have Wildcat packages designed for Tolbert. We are probably an injury away from him being our #1 kick/punt returner. 5 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Yea but he plays on special teams ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullim4 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 He should be cut, but he's a "process" player so he gets a free pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 If they wanted to bring him as a locker room character guy, it wouldn’t have been a bad pickup. Dennison making him a featured part of the offense is the problem. Dennison has been the worst pickup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 I would take Fred Jackson at age 40 over Mike Tolbert. It's an absolute joke that he is on an NFL roster. There are probably hundreds of hard working kids that are street free agents that are way more talented. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Just now, DriveFor1Outta5 said: If they wanted to bring him as a locker room character guy, it wouldn’t have been a bad pickup. Dennison making him a featured part of the offense is the problem. Dennison has been the worst pickup. I love when he was asked about it weeks ago, that if he realised that Tolbert was in the game, that he said he wasn’t aware. Like come on. Basically admitting he has no clue on his personal in the game and if the play calls change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 I get pissed every time he’s out there. Opposing D’s just tee off on him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansLanda Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 but he is a great dancer, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 He's bad. But they didn't have much of a choice this game after Cadet went down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbomb Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 reggie bush finished the year with negative rushing yards yet i have to agree with the op, what a horrible, terrible player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Tolbert and Webb would be shoveling snow if it were not for the Bills employing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 He gives us something we can all unite on. There’s some value there. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbomb Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Just now, BigDingus said: He's bad. But they didn't have much of a choice this game after Cadet went down. they had a choice before, they cut j williams to keep him, a street fa is better than him at this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted December 24, 2017 Author Share Posted December 24, 2017 Most OCs would use somebody like Mike Tolbert as a change of pace back. But not Dennison. He literally changes NOTHING when LeSean McCoy comes out of the game. Somehow he believes that "if McCoy can run that play, then why can't Tolbert?" The only value Tolbert brings to this team, is if he somehow helps Dennison get canned. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, Augie said: He gives us something we can all unite on. There’s some value there. How true. It just frightens me that our coaching staff can’t see the same thing every Bills fan does. There are Bills fans on every continent who know this, yet our coaching staff remains clueless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Mueller Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 (edited) I think that the title on this thread is a little bit harsh. I'd have no problem with Tolbert being on the team to help teach the young guys how to be good professionals. The only problem is that the coaches keep putting him on the field. Edited December 24, 2017 by Jamie Mueller spelling mistake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, DriveFor1Outta5 said: How true. It just frightens me that our coaching staff can’t see the same thing every Bills fan does. There are Bills fans on every continent who know this, yet our coaching staff remains clueless. Maybe if we send the OC to Antartica he can see it properly? Do we all have to chip in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted December 24, 2017 Author Share Posted December 24, 2017 Just now, Jamie Mueller said: I think that the title on this thread is a little bit harsh. I'd have no problem with Tolbert being on the team to help teach the young guys how to be a goof professional. The only problem is that the coaches keep putting him on the field. Maybe we've had worse FA players. But how many of them have had the negative impact of Tolbert? It doesn't matter how many fumbles, drops, runs for losses... the coaching staff just keeps giving him the ball and designing plays for him. It's insane. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRiderBills Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 (edited) I've never seen a player with such poor performance on feild given so many opportunities Edited December 24, 2017 by RichRiderBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Couldn't believe Dennison had this guy running a SLANT route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KW95 - JA17 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said: I've never seen a player with such poor performance on feild given so many opportunities Zay Jones is a close second 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 4 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Well they are smarter then everyone. You can tell from McDermotts press conferences. other than wrex.......McD is the worst coach since Jauron. Defensive focus in the extreme and doesn't know anything about game management.....lets see, did we go for it from the 5....and kick from the 40.....yep..those were the calls. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JinxedBill1 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Reggie Bush 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 The Tolbert Usage makes it easy for the Pegulas to evaluate their coaches and pro personnel department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norwood for Wall of Fame Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU GUYS? HE'S A PRO BOWL FULLBACK. I READ IT ON THE INTERNET. Thanks you for listening 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 25 minutes ago, mjt328 said: I cannot think of a player more worthless. He's not a good blocker. He's too slow to get anything running the ball, unless there is a massive hole right up the gut. He can't catch and he fumbles too much. Yet this doesn't stop Rick Dennison from using him like a Swiss Army Knife. Watch him get no yards on FB dive! Watch him lose 5 yards on a FB screen! Watch him split out into the slot and drop the ball! I wouldn't be surprised if we have Wildcat packages designed for Tolbert. We are probably an injury away from him being our #1 kick/punt returner. The team specializes in worthless players. Chris Williams, Ruvell Martin, Reggie Bush, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaista2k Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Agree. Absolute terrible signing. Makes me a little concerned about Beane/McDermott considering how much familiarity they previously had with Tolbert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted December 24, 2017 Author Share Posted December 24, 2017 10 minutes ago, Norwood for Wall of Fame said: WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU GUYS? HE'S A PRO BOWL FULLBACK. I READ IT ON THE INTERNET. Thanks you for listening I completely forgot he was voted to the Pro Bowl. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Wayne Cubed said: Yea but he plays on special teams ? ....he IS a Pro-Bowler....did you forget?....just like Pete Weber..... Edited December 24, 2017 by OldTimeAFLGuy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Just now, ScottLaw said: ? Yea because the Pegulas have a clue how to evaluate anything football related. Or the NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 I watched him on kickoff today and I wanted to throw up. He was so slow that when he lined up 8 yards ahead of Tate and Tate got the ball he would be behind Tate and not able to block. He's old, slow, fat and incapable of any NFL play. Denison bringing somebody like him and DiMarco on this team is a true testament to how bad Denison is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Easily the worst FA acquisition. If he wasn’t on the team, I believe we would’ve won an additional game at this point. Can’t believe he got the call on 2nd and 25. Just....wow. Worst offensive playcall in awhile. Preempted by the worst decision to kick a fg on 4th and 1. Awful decisions by McD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted December 24, 2017 Author Share Posted December 24, 2017 1 minute ago, NewEra said: Easily the worst FA acquisition. If he wasn’t on the team, I believe we would’ve won an additional game at this point. Can’t believe he got the call on 2nd and 25. Just....wow. Worst offensive playcall in awhile. Preempted by the worst decision to kick a fg on 4th and 1. Awful decisions by McD Splitting him out into the slot and then making him the first read on a slant pass (in the Red Zone no less)... I was literally speechless. I'm 100% certain he was signed for "locker room leadership" reasons. But I can't figure out why they keep giving him the ball. It's almost always a totally wasted play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billzfan Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 I have never seen such a big guy get taken down so easily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 14 minutes ago, NewEra said: Easily the worst FA acquisition. If he wasn’t on the team, I believe we would’ve won an additional game at this point. Can’t believe he got the call on 2nd and 25. Just....wow. Worst offensive playcall in awhile. Preempted by the worst decision to kick a fg on 4th and 1. Awful decisions by McD Trying the FG on 4th and 1 down by seven. May indicate what is in store for this franchise going forward. And he's made other head scratching play calls this season. I think the McD honeymoon is officially over. The Tolbert call was horrid although I would guess that is on Dennison though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 17 minutes ago, mjt328 said: Splitting him out into the slot and then making him the first read on a slant pass (in the Red Zone no less)... I was literally speechless. I'm 100% certain he was signed for "locker room leadership" reasons. But I can't figure out why they keep giving him the ball. It's almost always a totally wasted play. Mind boggling on the GMs part, the coaches part, and the OC's part on some of his usage and just being on the team. Leadership might entail being in shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. K Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 I despair whenever they run a play for him. Second and 25, and they give the ball to him? Beyond idiocy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Lest we forget, this was all due to Dougie Whaley wanting to save $900K for a 5th round tender on TDMike. How'd that work out? Oh yeah, Whaley got fired, and TDMike had a TD against us today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 1 hour ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....he IS a Pro-Bowler....did you forget?....just like Pete Weber..... and john scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullim4 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 (edited) I'm trying to think back on previous TSW whipping boys... and I honestly can't think of a worse player than Tolbert during the 17 year streak of no playoffs. Kelsay at least made a play once and awhile. McLovin caught fumble-itis but at least he made a decent defensive play every once and awhile. Maybe Coy Wire? Edited December 24, 2017 by sullim4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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