baskingridgebillsfan Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Dunkirk Don said: We are not trading for marcus peters he is a bad teammate. it is on the offensive side of the ball I never said they were. I was just pointing out that is player the chiefs would be happy to trade. I looked over the roster from top to bottom. I will be interested to see who it is . I can't figure ouy who is worth a high pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 7 minutes ago, BigDingus said: Not true. I loved me some Teef. I'm old-school lovin' Teef. Don't you mess with my Teef! No need to lie. And his name is Sean. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Just now, Jay_Fixit said: No need to lie. And his name is Sean. Uh no. His name is Teef & he's a muppet. How dare you slander his good name! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 (edited) "New Era field II" pending the right of first refusal to name the place... East of the city for regionalization Near an exit on the 90 for convenience/traffic flow Other major routes nearby so easy to get in and out in all directions not near swamp lands lots of open space closer to Buffalo than rochester closer to the airport not all the way to Batavia Don't bother worrying about getting in on the action. Those cakes were baked long ago. the land that will be valuable was already scooped up long ago. Just open google maps or google earth and ask yourself if you had billions where would YOU put it east of the city... the potential locations become clear. Lots of land east of the city is swamp, and therefore unusable Open air+ just as much in the snow belt as well Edited December 14, 2017 by TheFunPolice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 13 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: "New Era field II" pending the right of first refusal to name the place... East of the city for regionalization Near an exit on the 90 for convenience/traffic flow Other major routes nearby so easy to get in and out in all directions not near swamp lands lots of open space closer to Buffalo than rochester closer to the airport not all the way to Batavia Don't bother worrying about getting in on the action. Those cakes were baked long ago. the land that will be valuable was already scooped up long ago. Just open google maps or google earth and ask yourself if you had billions where would YOU put it east of the city... the potential locations become clear. Lots of land east of the city is swamp, and therefore unusable Open air+ just as much in the snow belt as well I was thinking somewhere in the vicinity of Darien would make sense. Maybe we can watch Kirk Cousins throw a TD from the top of the Superman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 16 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: "New Era field II" pending the right of first refusal to name the place... East of the city for regionalization Near an exit on the 90 for convenience/traffic flow Other major routes nearby so easy to get in and out in all directions not near swamp lands lots of open space closer to Buffalo than rochester closer to the airport not all the way to Batavia Don't bother worrying about getting in on the action. Those cakes were baked long ago. the land that will be valuable was already scooped up long ago. Just open google maps or google earth and ask yourself if you had billions where would YOU put it east of the city... the potential locations become clear. Lots of land east of the city is swamp, and therefore unusable Open air+ just as much in the snow belt as well Really? I had no idea there was swamp land, but I left there as a 17 year old. Is that for real? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Augie said: Really? I had no idea there was swamp land, but I left there as a 17 year old. Is that for real? Not like outside of Syracuse but large enough patches where it's not even farmed now because the ground is soft and prone to flooding... If you look at the map to the east along the thruway corridor and imagine owning a football team and having billions of dollars and wanting to build a stadium with large parking lots somewhat closer to Rochester (and much better access to the airport than in OP) there are a lot of flat, open, spots where nothing but fields currently exist. You would be pretty excited. Huge areas of flat, open and CHEAP land with no houses right along the NY State thruway... just as close to Buffalo as OP is but a solid 45 minutes or more closer to Rochester than OP is and much easier access from Canada and the north due to multiple access points Edited December 14, 2017 by TheFunPolice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 13 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: Not like outside of Syracuse but large enough patches where it's not even farmed now because the ground is soft and prone to flooding... If you look at the map to the east along the thruway corridor and imagine owning a football team and having billions of dollars and wanting to build a stadium with large parking lots somewhat closer to Rochester (and much better access to the airport than in OP) there are a lot of flat, open, spots where nothing but fields currently exist. You would be pretty excited. Huge areas of flat, open and CHEAP land with no houses right along the NY State thruway... just as close to Buffalo as OP is but a solid 45 minutes or more closer to Rochester than OP is and much easier access from Canada and the north due to multiple access points That would have to be Lancaster/Newstead area. Anything further east is not Erie County. Maybe the edge of Clarence but also a good amount of houses. I would assume a significant NIMBY response there though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, Mango said: That would have to be Lancaster/Newstead area. Anything further east is not Erie County. Maybe the edge of Clarence but also a good amount of houses. I would assume a significant NIMBY response there though. I’m NOT disagreeing, but we live about 3 miles from the Braves new complex in Atlanta. There was a LOT of concern about traffic! I was shocked that we were never once even remotely inconvenienced after a full baseball season (minus the playoffs, of course....it’s the Braves). But just today my son took his fiancé there for lunch, and I was there just last week. It’s a cool destination far more than a nuisance. Just an observation. Having said all that, I’d fully expect the pitchforks and torches to come out if it’s anywhere near nice residential areas in WNY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 2 hours ago, Jay_Fixit said: I kinda want to feel offended about something now. My ears are burning! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: It's not their trajectory that I compared, although both proved flat. I was doubting the truth that "extremely talented" QBs need this many years to figure out the speed of the NFL. Fitz was modestly talented, but he could figure things out pretty quick. What is Bradford proven that he is better than Keenum at? He never throws for elite numbers of TDs and yards. Keenum (35 starts) came off the bench and got them to 10-3 (8 wins). How long did it take him to figure out the speed of the NFL. How would Bradford gotten them more passing production than Keenum? This guy, healthy, has never been an elite QB or shown elite talent in the NFL. Elite talent isn't a hot streak of a small handful of games. It's just not. Watch the games. He has looked really good *as a QB* since growing into the role with the Vikings, and he was good in 2013 for the Rams (a bad organization). His career has been so punctuated by injury that it's been hard to progress, but there is a reason why he was the consensus #1 overall pick when he came out. Flat out, he is a better talent than you think he is. He is a far more talented thrower and player than Fitzpatrick, who consistently labors to throw it and is an interception machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Any updates on the new stadium? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Any updates on the new stadium? Pay attention! There is no new stadium. Just a bunch of dreamers and guessers, of which I am one. Maybe someday..... Just wait until something is eventually announced....this place may crash! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 20 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Any updates on the new stadium? Ask Dungkirk Don. He will give you bread crumbs and you are expected to go from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 1 minute ago, Patrick_Duffy said: Ask Dungkirk Don. He will give you bread crumbs and you are expected to go from there. Follow the money... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 2 hours ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: hey look, up there, you see that "I'm better than you" on his high horse. chill out man. That's funny. Coach Tuesday lecturing about value to the community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 11 hours ago, Dunkirk Don said: I am amazed at the non believers. He is all over the place. The sports world is very fluid. If you were following the Stanton situation everyone thought he would be on the west coast but he landed in New York happened at the last minute. My source is not making decisions just is sharing what is being discussed. Don’t you think the redskins front office isn’t doing contigency thinking and what if scenarios around cousins? What if we don’t sign him? What if we fanchise him again? Cost? What if will sign him to a long term deal? Cost is he worth the investment. Don’t be naive. Bills are parting ways with Taylor period. Is peterman the answer? If yes, need experienced back up. If no then who? Cousins is their top pick, McDermott loves his commitment and preparation. If Washington franchise him then what? Vikings will have one or two qb available, are they the answers? If not then what. Looking to kc. That how it works folks. I am just passing on their current thought process and I am not saying with 100 percent certainty any of it comes true. The bills don’t have any idea either what is going to happen either. On the stadium front, that news is accurate, the property been bought Some people want 100percent certainty on every move, I have information that is accurate today but may change tomorrow, we don’t make decisions for the redskins or the Vikings or kc. This is called contigency planning. Every organization does it so read the information or not. If you don’t want inside information do not read my posts. The thought process will change based on circumstances and I am not being inconsistent just the thought process has changed based on the last domino. Make sense Even without inside information, it's obvious the Bills are exploring post Tyrod options, and Cousins, Viking QBs and Alex Smith would be among the possibilities that might come to fruition in the off season. Personally, I suspect that Cousins might turn out to be cost prohibitive, and I would definitely look in a different direction if Washington pursues a sign and trade strategy. Way too pricey! Alex Smith should be a little less expensive, but definitely not cheap. A spare Vikings QB seems more realistic. Thanks, Dunkirk Don. Even though I can't accept what you say as gospel, I do appreciate your reporting. I haven't heard anything from you that could be considered outlandish. Everything has been feasible, and therefore worth thinking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 1 hour ago, DC Tom said: Any updates on the new stadium? On behalf of DD...there might be a new stadium, there might not be a new stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 (edited) This guy is obviously related to IceBowl67. Edited December 14, 2017 by Jay_Fixit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 South Newstead area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GottaRun Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, DC Tom said: Any updates on the new stadium? There's been a misunderstanding. Edited December 14, 2017 by driddles 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 53 minutes ago, Augie said: Follow the money... Okay Deepthroat Dunkirk Don 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 (edited) On 12/12/2017 at 6:04 PM, Dunkirk Don said: Members 20 87 posts Report post Posted 2 minutes ago Just in from my source, Taylor will start remainder of season regardless of win/ lose. Bills will not cut Taylor but if attempt to trade him for another low round pick. Cousins definitely in mix to be next year qb. Ties to Buffalo confirmed. New stadium will be built in 2021or 2022. Location picked. Do not buy the hype about land study. Go to land purchases for last two years and you can determine location. Also check to see minority investment owners you will will see ties to Buffalo area. This property in four years will be most valuable in western New York. Not just where the stadium will be built but surrounding areas. Check transactions and building permits for new restaurants and you will see connections Dunkirk Don please tells us more about new turf changes at New Era that you alluded to would not have the rubber pellets infill like it has now. No way they put grass in New Era will they? It FAILs all season in Chicago and late in season in Green Bay even though GB has combo grass'artificial hybrid heated field that cost a fortune to maintain and they are going a different direction as soon as its life is over. Edited December 14, 2017 by cba fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, DC Tom said: Any updates on the new stadium? ...better hope Pegula doesn't read around these parts.......being branded by the TBD experts as the "clueless owner" or as another thread suggested "Should Pegula Cash In" would be a heart warming inducement for me to spend a BILLION on a new stadium...I'd leave you a fresh bag of Halite to go pound and call Modell NIGHT Moving & Storage to get the hell out....Jesus............... Edited December 14, 2017 by OldTimeAFLGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansLanda Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Guys/Gals, This poster is not telling us anything we couldn't deduce on our own. "Tyrod will be the starter if healthy" - yeah, we know. "Stadium will be built in the next 4-5 years" - yeah, we can guess that even without the land purchases. "Cousins" - he may be a free agent...and that is definitely a may be. Really? 40 pages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punt75 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 (edited) I don't have the 'inside' or 'investment banker' connections that some other posters seem to have -but- building a 67,000 outdoor stadium in Pembroke or Batavia NY is NOT going to happen!!!! The Pegula's have invested billions in the Sabres, the Key Bank Center, the 20 story Harbor Center with 2 full size ice rinks and a hotel, Canalside and the 716 Restaurant & Sports Bar. ALL but New Era Field are in BUFFALO! Why oh why would they want to pull business away from their downtown investments?? Make it more difficult for Canadian fans to get to a game ? All for 10 games a year to let fans party in the parking lot. Insane and nonsense! Edited December 15, 2017 by Punt75 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 20 minutes ago, HansLanda said: Guys/Gals, This poster is not telling us anything we couldn't deduce on our own. "Tyrod will be the starter if healthy" - yeah, we know. "Stadium will be built in the next 4-5 years" - yeah, we can guess that even without the land purchases. "Cousins" - he may be a free agent...and that is definitely a may be. Really? 40 pages? 20 pages of joviality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 (edited) Treating Dunkirk Don like he's legit? He appreciates it. Edited December 15, 2017 by PromoTheRobot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 12 minutes ago, Punt75 said: I don't have the 'inside' or 'investment banker' connections that some other posters seem to have -but- building a 67,000 outdoor stadium in Pembroke or Batavia NY is NOT going to happen!!!! The Pegula's have invested billions in the Sabres, the Key Bank Center, the 20 story Harbor Center with 2 full size ice rinks and a hotel, Canalside and the 716 Restaurant & Sports Bar. ALL but New Era Field are in BUFFALO! Why oh why would they want to pull business away from their downtown investments?? Make it more difficult for Canadian fans to get to a game ? All for 10 games a year to let fans party in the parking lot. Insane and nonsense! \ Didn't Dunkirk Don say that it was going to be in the Cobblestone district area in the city? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 33 minutes ago, HansLanda said: Guys/Gals, This poster is not telling us anything we couldn't deduce on our own. "Tyrod will be the starter if healthy" - yeah, we know. "Stadium will be built in the next 4-5 years" - yeah, we can guess that even without the land purchases. "Cousins" - he may be a free agent...and that is definitely a may be. Really? 40 pages? You mock...but Cousins may not be a free agent, too. That someone authoritatively confirmed that he may be one is earth-shattering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 My inside source tells me they are most certainly not building it west of Buffalo. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRUSHx Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 6 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said: Didn't Dunkirk Don say that it was going to be in the Cobblestone district area in the city? I also think it will end up in Cobblestone and it will be a dome IMO A dome will make the most money and that is what it is all about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 19 minutes ago, Punt75 said: I don't have the 'inside' or 'investment banker' connections that some other posters seem to have -but- building a 67,000 outdoor stadium in Pembroke or Batavia NY is NOT going to happen!!!! The Pegula's have invested billions in the Sabres, the Key Bank Center, the 20 story Harbor Center with 2 full size ice rinks and a hotel, Canalside and the 716 Restaurant & Sports Bar. ALL but New Era Field are in BUFFALO! Why oh why would they want to pull business away from their downtown investments?? Make it more difficult for Canadian fans to get to a game ? All for 10 games a year to let fans party in the parking lot. Insane and nonsense! Because ALOT of fans that at are the games are not from Buffalo. I live in Rochester and anytime I've gotten food after a game or went to a bar after the game it was after we got back to Rochester. Their is not a whole lot around New era field and my guess is they want to develop some undeveloped land and make it a destination. Much like what the Patriots did with Gillette stadium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kota Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 On 12/13/2017 at 2:33 PM, MURPHD6 said: If you think its fair to challenge the credibility of a poster based on comparable medical observations that you have made over the internet, your clearly over estimating the importance of your opinions. Well It looks like i was right. Besides that guy just compiled a bunch of opinions from here and turned them into facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 On 12/13/2017 at 5:33 PM, MURPHD6 said: If you think its fair to challenge the credibility of a poster based on comparable medical observations that you have made over the internet, your clearly over estimating the importance of your opinions. If you think it's fair not to, you are clearly overestimating the importance of the other poster's opinions as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 1 minute ago, Steptide said: Because ALOT of fans that at are the games are not from Buffalo. I live in Rochester and anytime I've gotten food after a game or went to a bar after the game it was after we got back to Rochester. Their is not a whole lot around New era field and my guess is they want to develop some undeveloped land and make it a destination. Much like what the Patriots did with Gillette stadium It's not going to be in Pembroke or Batavia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Just now, BuffaloRush said: It's not going to be in Pembroke or Batavia. Pembroke. That would be hilarious. I hope they announce that on April 1st. "The new stadium is going to be in Pembroke...Midgard Winery Stadium at Yancey's Fancy Park." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runner68 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Steptide said: Because ALOT of fans that at are the games are not from Buffalo. I live in Rochester and anytime I've gotten food after a game or went to a bar after the game it was after we got back to Rochester. Their is not a whole lot around New era field and my guess is they want to develop some undeveloped land and make it a destination. Much like what the Patriots did with Gillette stadium And this is reason #1 why you build in downtown Buffalo. Trap people, get them to stay the weekend and spend their money. This will happen if built in downtown Buffalo, not in no mans land Newstead. I get the feeling that Business Terry knows this. They know you you will go back home to Rochester after the game if they stay in Orchard Park or build elsewhere in the boonies. That’s why it makes no sense to build there. Edited December 15, 2017 by runner68 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said: It's not going to be in Pembroke or Batavia. Maybe not, but I can tell you I'd prefer that over downtown Buffalo Just now, runner68 said: And this is reason #1 why you build in downtown Buffalo. Trap people, get them to stay the weekend and spend their money. This will happen if built in downtown Buffalo, not in no mans land Newstead. I get get the feeling that Business Terry knows this. 100% wrong. I would never ever spend a weekend in Buffalo. Building a stadium downtown might be great for people aged 18-25, but anyone over 30 who lives outside buffalo would. Much rather avoid a down town stadium. I'm speaking of people from Rochester, Erie and Toronto. Not people who live out of state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runner68 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 1 minute ago, Steptide said: Maybe not, but I can tell you I'd prefer that over downtown Buffalo “I’m a fan of the Buffalo Bills, but I hate the City of Buffalo because I’m from Rochester and want to spend as little time there as possible.” Makes sense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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