tbonehawaii Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Just wondering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Don't know but even though it didn't affect the result of the game, enough is enough with Hughes. I'd have told him to go to the locker room after that and cut his butt after the game. Hopefully they dump him in the offseason. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 7 minutes ago, LittleJoeCartwright said: Don't know but even though it didn't affect the result of the game, enough is enough with Hughes. I'd have told him to go to the locker room after that and cut his butt after the game. Hopefully they dump him in the offseason. For yelling at the refs after they allowed gronk to concuss our best player? Hughes should’ve bodyslammed gronk. I really wish someone would’ve put a hurting on gronk. We can’t let them come into our house and drop elbows on us. Can’t happen 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 11 minutes ago, LittleJoeCartwright said: Don't know but even though it didn't affect the result of the game, enough is enough with Hughes. I'd have told him to go to the locker room after that and cut his butt after the game. Hopefully they dump him in the offseason. Cut him? Seriously? Yes...let's continue to cut talented players because of things like "attitude" and "character" while signing crappy guys with high-character to replace them. That's proven successful with this team so far! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kota Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Well considering he wasn't benched like last time I think the coaches are good. Hughes was seen discussing it with the DC who only shook his head yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 hour ago, kota said: Well considering he wasn't benched like last time I think the coaches are good. Hughes was seen discussing it with the DC who only shook his head yes. I agree, the game was out of reach , I'm glad Jerry told off an official and Frasier talked calmly with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimKellyTryouts Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 (edited) Little Joe: Cap. Hit. You would think after all the Dareus dialogue such a simple concept could be retained Edited December 4, 2017 by JimKellyTryouts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Hughes makes more boneheaded plays than memorable ones. He's gonna be the next one out of here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Hughes: Hey Mr. Ref, I'd like to buy some tickets to the NFL Referees Ball Mr. Ref: We don't have balls Mr. Ref: (humiliated) Throws flag 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 5 hours ago, BigDingus said: Cut him? Seriously? Yes...let's continue to cut talented players because of things like "attitude" and "character" while signing crappy guys with high-character to replace them. That's proven successful with this team so far! What talented player did anyone mention cutting? Hughes has 14 sacks in the last three years. Id rather not pay somone who averages 4.5 sacks a year since signing their big contract 6.5 million dollars next year, but thats just me. The guy is starting to look like Maybin out there, tries to run by the tackle every play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEHARDTRUTH Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 FIRE EVERYBODY!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 It doesn't matter what Hughes said. It was something only one of the two teams on the field yesterday is allowed to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Not sure why he said anything to the ref. At that point the game is over so I don't know why they all didn't beat the snot out of Gronk. They are all pointing like hey throw a flag. As if a flag is going to help when the game is over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 you guys suck as always? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 18 minutes ago, kdiggz said: Not sure why he said anything to the ref. At that point the game is over so I don't know why they all didn't beat the snot out of Gronk. They are all pointing like hey throw a flag. As if a flag is going to help when the game is over totally agree, but McD trying to coach em up like Hoddie, and Hofddie always preaches walk away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Hughes with his history is a marked player. He probably earned the flag but without his history maybe they would have let it go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 "your mother wears army boots" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 6 hours ago, BigDingus said: Cut him? Seriously? Yes...let's continue to cut talented players because of things like "attitude" and "character" while signing crappy guys with high-character to replace them. That's proven successful with this team so far! No, it's not about "character" anymore....I would like the team to have all decent men who conduct themselves professionally and reasonably both on and off the field, but at this point it's about what Hughes costs the team while IN the game. If we were to take every positive Hughes play, ala TFL and Sacks, meaning ones that can be measured and not just, "he set the edge but he doesn't get credit" - because those can't be measured - and then added the negative yards he gets for stupid, selfish penalties (not saying yesterday was one of them, not saying it wasn't), what would be the NET yardage afterwards? I've said before, I don't think Hughes is on the team come 2018, and it's not because he's a bad player, it's because his lack of discipline does not fit the McD and Beane mold. Additionally, what good is getting a sack for negative 7 yards only to give up 15 yards and a first down either one or two downs later or at some crucial point in the game? I don't see the benefit when viewing the game or season as a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 6 hours ago, NewEra said: For yelling at the refs after they allowed gronk to concuss our best player? Hughes should’ve bodyslammed gronk. I really wish someone would’ve put a hurting on gronk. We can’t let them come into our house and drop elbows on us. Can’t happen "Defend our dirt" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rant_and_go_returns Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Done with the NFL. Corrupt way for rich people to steal from America. Harlem Globetrotters have more competitive games. The only time I will have anything to do with the NFL is if anyone associated with it needs a kidney and I'm a match. I will go through the entire process until I'm about to be knocked out with anasthesia, get up, and walk out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 7 hours ago, LittleJoeCartwright said: Don't know but even though it didn't affect the result of the game, enough is enough with Hughes. I'd have told him to go to the locker room after that and cut his butt after the game. Hopefully they dump him in the offseason. Dumb take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chef4131 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 personally don't care that he said anything to Ref, would have rather he went and confronted Gronk But the Bills did nothing to Landry last year so why would anyone think they would have this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, chef4131 said: personally don't care that he said anything to Ref, would have rather he went and confronted Gronk But the Bills did nothing to Landry last year so why would anyone think they would have this year No comparison between what Gronk did and what Landry did. Landry deserved to be taken out. As for Hughes IDK what he said, but he gets flagged for it, and easily in any case. Who doesn't remember his 15 yard penalty for playfully bashing his TEAMMATE. Refs are biased and that'. s not good. And what with the retarded rule that 2 penalties offset 1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 I'm pretty sure he told the ref to 'respect the process'. That'll show 'em! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 I don’t blame Hughes at all, sorry. I would applaud him for telling off the ref who chose not to eject the Neanderthal after that BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 There was a Pat defensive back who got a penalty holding /interfering with a receiver when the Bills had a third and long. That penalty resulted in a first down after the stop. The defensive back was taken out of the game. The Pats hold their players accountable and to a high standard. That's why they are champs and we are chumps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, JohnC said: There was a Pat defensive back who got a penalty holding /interfering with a receiver when the Bills had a third and long. That penalty resulted in a first down after the stop. The defensive back was taken out of the game. The Pats hold their players accountable and to a high standard. That's why they are champs and we are chumps. The also have more depth than us and can afford to sit a player for making a dumb mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boco357 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Stick to basketball lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 5 minutes ago, JohnC said: There was a Pat defensive back who got a penalty holding /interfering with a receiver when the Bills had a third and long. That penalty resulted in a first down after the stop. The defensive back was taken out of the game. The Pats hold their players accountable and to a high standard. That's why they are champs and we are chumps. Did Gronk remain in the game ? Will Belichick suspend him for a game for the hit that he said was BS and inexcusable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Did Gronk remain in the game ? Will Belichick suspend him for a game for the hit that he said was BS and inexcusable? After the game Gronk apologized for his actions and said that he wouldn't do it again because it could hurt his team. There is a self-awareness and control that a player such as Hughes doesn't have. The Pats are a more talented team, a better coached team and a smarter team. That's why they are champions and we are chumps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Just now, JohnC said: After the game Gronk apologized for his actions and said that he wouldn't do it again because it could hurt his team. There is a self-awareness and control that a player such as Hughes doesn't have. The Pats are a more talented team, a better coached team and a smarter team. That's why they are champions and we are chumps. Did you just use Gronk and “self awareness” and “control” in the same paragraph? Are you comparing what Gronk did to what Hughes did? I’m sorry... Never had an issue before with your well thought out posts even though I didn’t always agree but I just can’t with this. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 10 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: The also have more depth than us and can afford to sit a player for making a dumb mistake. In the beginning of the year Gilmore was having problems adjusting to the Pats scheme and was not playing well. He was benched. The Pats hold their players accountable. That's one of the main reasons why they are champs. Hughes is notorious for repeatedly losing his cool and getting penalties. If he played for the Pats it wouldn't happen because he would be either benched or dispatched from the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Just now, JohnC said: In the beginning of the year Gilmore was having problems adjusting to the Pats scheme and was not playing well. He was benched. The Pats hold their players accountable. That's one of the main reasons why they are champs. Hughes is notorious for repeatedly losing his cool and getting penalties. If he played for the Pats it wouldn't happen because he would be either benched or dispatched from the roster. I agree with you and not arguing your point. My point is that we don't have the quality of depth that NE does to sit our starter today without a large decline in skill. But I look forward to the day when we can do just that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Did you just use Gronk and “self awareness” and “control” in the same paragraph? Are you comparing what Gronk did to what Hughes did? I’m sorry... Never had an issue before with your well thought out posts even though I didn’t always agree but I just can’t with this. You didn't carefully read and understand what I said. Gronk acknowledged that how he reacted in the White play was wrong. Gronk was constantly being held and mugged in the game. On that particular play where he jumped on White he lost control. And he owned up to it when interviewed in the locker room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeagentqb Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 2 hours ago, BigBuff423 said: No, it's not about "character" anymore....I would like the team to have all decent men who conduct themselves professionally and reasonably both on and off the field, but at this point it's about what Hughes costs the team while IN the game. If we were to take every positive Hughes play, ala TFL and Sacks, meaning ones that can be measured and not just, "he set the edge but he doesn't get credit" - because those can't be measured - and then added the negative yards he gets for stupid, selfish penalties (not saying yesterday was one of them, not saying it wasn't), what would be the NET yardage afterwards? I've said before, I don't think Hughes is on the team come 2018, and it's not because he's a bad player, it's because his lack of discipline does not fit the McD and Beane mold. Additionally, what good is getting a sack for negative 7 yards only to give up 15 yards and a first down either one or two downs later or at some crucial point in the game? I don't see the benefit when viewing the game or season as a whole. Take away all the passion and you're the Sabres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakin Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 He said: "your mama dresses like a zebra, too!" confirmed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 I was disgusted no one ripped gronk’s helmet off and shoved it up his..... what kind of BS was that? Where is the team?? Stupid process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 6 minutes ago, JohnC said: You didn't carefully read and understand what I said. Gronk acknowledged that how he reacted in the White play was wrong. Gronk was constantly being held and mugged in the game. On that particular play where he jumped on White he lost control. And he owned up to it when interviewed in the locker room. https://twitter.com/jmccoyphoto/status/937433572637593605/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.buffalorumblings.com%2F2017%2F12%2F3%2F16731170%2Ftredavious-white-injured-on-vicious-dirty-hit-by-rob-gronkowski Yeah, he looks real contrite. Stop giving him a pass. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: The also have more depth than us and can afford to sit a player for making a dumb mistake. The Pats recently took a player, Lee, off of our practice squad. He was inserted into their starting lineup on defense. In the game against us he was one of the better defensive players in the game. Organizations that are smart and enterprising create their own depth. Competence always wins out over incompetence. 6 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: https://twitter.com/jmccoyphoto/status/937433572637593605/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.buffalorumblings.com%2F2017%2F12%2F3%2F16731170%2Ftredavious-white-injured-on-vicious-dirty-hit-by-rob-gronkowski Yeah, he looks real contrite. Stop giving him a pass. You don't think that the moronic drunken fans shouting out obscenities didn't deserve to be responded to by a player who had a stellar game? Edited December 4, 2017 by JohnC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 14 minutes ago, bobm said: Take away all the passion and you're the Sabres. Oh, of course....because it's too much to ask a team to play with passion and NOT take stupid penalties....how does that work for other teams? Good teams play with focus...that means they're impassioned about their play, but they don't let that override their sense of reason (too often). Look, I'm not saying a guy can't EVER take a penalty for playing to the whistle, but his is not a once a year or every five or six games thing...it happens almost every week and there is not enough in return to justify his contract and the lack of positive gained from those negative yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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