DrDawkinstein Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Based on what exactly? Because they got one of Cam's teammates? Not one, more like 3 or 4. And both McD and Beane come from Carolina, are very familiar with the players there, and have already shown they will raid that pile. Plus they will be looking to upgrade the QB position, and it doesnt look like we'll be high enough in the draft to get into the top tier of prospects with so many teams in front of us that need QBs too. I agree it's unlikely, but it's not too crazy of an idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGun12TD Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Sir, please put down the Kool-Aid jug before you hurt yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Gug--you have the team right just not the player. Star Lotulelei will be a Bill on or about the opening night of Free Agency. This actually makes a lot of sense. I think they have a choice to make between Lotulelei and Kawann Short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P51 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 He's rubbish too. Did you see the Cowboys game? What happened in the Skins/Cowboys game that makes him rubbish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 No thanks. Dont need to see him sulk, walk out of PC's, and make sexist comments here in Buffalo CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Draft is a crapshoot. Bird in the hand - develop the man. Draft someone to join Peterman in competition with TT if you want, but for now you have a QB you can absolutely win with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaviorPeterman Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 While anything is possible I doubt Newton will end up in Buffalo. And if the Panthers were willing to move on from that would be very telling in itself because teams don't dump franchise QB's in their prime years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlottebillsfan2 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Cam is breaking down no way they want any part of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 I have no link. This is just my opinion. It just makes sense. Beane is cherry-picking the best Panthers. He's cleared the money. I think Cam's gonna be a Bill. Does make sense. Reason being Cam would not be a huge cap hit goong forward as alot of the guaranteed money would be paid and the dead money Carolina takes clears the signing bonus. Two. Carolina would save roughly 6M plus in cap Three. Richardson is about the bottomline and this move would save him alot of cash Four. Cam and the Media as well as alot of fans are at odds right now. Five. Still young at 28 (next year). Have his contract thur 2020 coincides with the Lease as well. That contraxt until 2020 looks like this cap hit wise 2018 16.5M 2019 18.7M 2020 21.1M And dead money attached if trade or cut after Bills get him 2018 6M (leaves a 10.5M savings) 2019 4M (leaves a 14.7M savings) 2020 2M (leaves a 19.1M savings) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Tyrod Taylor > Cam Newton. That should speak volumes, coming from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Why wouldn't they just keep Tyrod? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Nice joke to start my day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Having lived in Charlotte for six years, Cam is the face of that franchise and of the city. And for all of the crap he gets from other fans/the sports media, he's also a great dude. He is going to retire with Carolina, no doubts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 I have no link. This is just my opinion. It just makes sense. Beane is cherry-picking the best Panthers. He's cleared the money. I think Cam's gonna be a Bill. What a horrible idea. Why would we want to downgrade QB? We just got rid of the biggest disappointment from the 2011 draft; why would we take on another? You guys may want to prepare yourself for this team giving Tyrod a few more years. He has the exact type of character the management wants and his performance on the field is not that bad (despite most around here only looking at Passing yards as the measuring stick for success). We can also get him a lot cheaper than other options. At this point, I suspect we will be building around Tyrod, not looking to replace him immediately. I would be shocked if we made a push at a FA QB or traded to get to the top of the draft for a blue chipper. Correct, at least for 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grb Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 so he'll be backing up tyrod? Yup. A steel cage match no-holds-barred battle between Nate and Cam. Who wouldn't pay to see that? Seriously though, you can pretty much make a thread outta anything these days, can't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 I love it when Gug starts troll-worthy threads. I've yet to see Boyst reply that s/b fun With this, deal TT to Denver for a 1st!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 I dont think it will happen because no way do the Panthers move him, but anyone saying he isnt a McBeane guy needs to look where both of them were working when Cam was drafted. He is already a McBeane guy. They were on the staff that drafted him. that's was almost all hurney and gettleman influence plus a no brainer. They needed a QB. Drafting cam was obvious. The next QB was far inferrior. I'd not say he's there type of guy because they were there for the draft. I'd say he was there when they picked and the obvious choice. They OL was built. They had good RB's. The WRs weren't bad. The defense needed work but they were passing up a QB for Dareus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 What happened in the Skins/Cowboys game that makes him rubbish? He just kept throwing interceptions. Had 2 called back on one drive then threw another right afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 1, 2017 Author Share Posted November 1, 2017 He just kept throwing interceptions. Had 2 called back on one drive then threw another right afterwards. Please stay on topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 (edited) Been a long time since I smoked any weed. They say its a lot stronger these days....... apparently so🤣 Edited November 1, 2017 by Buffalo Boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Mike Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Pretty sure they just drafted a QB in this year's draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Maybe Cousins. No thanks- not worth the price- he hasnt played well this year- average at best. He will demand 25-30 mil per year, pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Next time you have a puff, you might want to pass the bong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 From Ty-Rod to Cam-Shaft? too inconsistent Next time you have a puff, you might want to pass the bong. that and your name just reminded me of Oh yeah, we gonna rock down to Electric Avenue And then we'll take it higher Oh we gonna rock down to Electric Avenue And then we'll take it higher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Its just an opinion. Doubt it tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Cam would be a headache, one that I don't think McDermott would want to deal with. He wants team first, high character players and no controversies. Cam is immature and constantly saying and doing dumb stuff in the media. I couldn't stand seeing him pout on the sideline with a towel on his head in a Bills uniform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 No thanks. Dont need to see him sulk, walk out of PC's, and make sexist comments here in Buffalo CBF ........AGREE....besides, Beane, McD and divas don't mix........and boy he is one....just ask 'em........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 I have no link. This is just my opinion. It just makes sense. Beane is cherry-picking the best Panthers. He's cleared the money. I think Cam's gonna be a Bill. The Panthers would go for this, Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 You and your recent pot-stirring, Gugny.......you love getting the hornets out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Petterman>Newton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 1, 2017 Author Share Posted November 1, 2017 You and your recent pot-stirring, Gugny.......you love getting the hornets out. I simply shared my opinion. This isn't pot-stirring. I bet if - 2 days ago - I posted that Benjamin would be traded to the Bills, that I would have gotten a lot of the same responses as this thread is getting. Especially the, "why would CAR do this?" crowd. You never know. I think it makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Dude, the Bills oppressing and chaining Boldin totally makes since now. How are we going to get Cam without good slaves, I mean oppressed chained-up guys, to trade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 (edited) http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/qb Cam was ranked 28th last year and is 23rd so far this year. 10tds 11int so far this season. That is 24 games, Cam has already peaked. The league has figured out how to play him and his game does not evolve. He is still a big baby in a bad suit. Cam will regress further without Benjamin to just chuck it up to imo. Edited November 1, 2017 by Turk71 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Unless...Drew Brees. Or Alex Smith. Both Drew Brees and Alex Smith reinforce the point you're responding to, that you don't trade away "franchise" guys for unknowns or draft picks At the point where Alex Smith was traded to the Chiefs, he'd lost his starting job to Kaepernick, ergo, "not franchise guy" at that point, and it was felt Kaep was a known quantity, having started in 7 games including playoffs At the point where Drew Brees left in free agency, he was not traded; he had been given a good offer, but NO wanted more, and #4 overall pick Philip Rivers had been sitting on the Sandy Ego bench for 2 years. I simply shared my opinion. This isn't pot-stirring. I bet if - 2 days ago - I posted that Benjamin would be traded to the Bills, that I would have gotten a lot of the same responses as this thread is getting. Especially the, "why would CAR do this?" crowd. You never know. I think it makes sense. If you aren't pot-stirring, how about if you put some "skin" in the game with an explanation of just why it is your opinion that this makes sense? Start by explaining why would Carolina trade Cam Newton when they have no developing QB behind him on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 1, 2017 Author Share Posted November 1, 2017 Both Drew Brees and Alex Smith reinforce the point you're responding to, that you don't trade away "franchise" guys for unknowns or draft picks At the point where Alex Smith was traded to the Chiefs, he'd lost his starting job to Kaepernick, ergo, "not franchise guy" at that point, and it was felt Kaep was a known quantity, having started in 7 games including playoffs At the point where Drew Brees left in free agency, he was not traded; he had been given a good offer, but NO wanted more, and #4 overall pick Philip Rivers had been sitting on the Sandy Ego bench for 2 years. If you aren't pot-stirring, how about if you put some "skin" in the game with an explanation of just why it is your opinion that this makes sense? Start by explaining why would Carolina trade Cam Newton when they have no developing QB behind him on the bench. Why did they trade their best WR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 He's a little too concerned with protecting himself from Donkey Kong Suh for my taste. It would be twice a year in the AFC East. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Well, it's an interesting theory. Could happen. If it does, Gugny will tear a rotator cuff patting himself on the back. (This seems more like an offseason thread to me.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Why did they trade their best WR? Irrelevant to the question. You say the writing is on the wall, you're not pot stirring, it just makes sense. Don't change the subject or try to divert it to make other folks explain - you're the one saying it makes sense that Cam will come to B'lo, you explain why in your opinion it makes sense. Otherwise, you ARE pot-stirring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Irrelevant to the question. You say the writing is on the wall, you're not pot stirring, it just makes sense. Don't change the subject or try to divert it to make other folks explain - you're the one saying it makes sense that Cam will come to B'lo, you explain why in your opinion it makes sense. Otherwise, you ARE pot-stirring there are 3 things I know about this board. 1) never take gugny seriously 2) always deny liking gladiator movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 there are 3 things I know about this board. 1) never take gugny seriously 2) always deny liking gladiator movies. But I love gladiator movies! This would be even better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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