SDS Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 We have 4.5 Million posts, but for the most part it is a slow moving chat room. I'm not sure many threads are revisited after a couple weeks have past. If/when I migrate the forum to a contemporary software package - should I just leave the 4.5M posts behind and just transfer the structure and user accounts over? That would mean every forum would start fresh, but there would be a link to the old archives. Any opinions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Fine with me, though Im sure some will be upset to see their post counts reset to zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 I would suggest that those 4.5 million posts represent a critical historical record of the Bills' unprecedented 17-year playoff drought that we should make every effort, for the sake of posterity, to get rid of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 I would suggest that those 4.5 million posts represent a critical historical record of the Bills' unprecedented 17-year playoff drought that we should make every effort, for the sake of posterity, to get rid of. or perhaps donate it to the Smithsonian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 How about keeping the 1st couple of pages with the remainder going to the archives? I know that's more work, but it might be better. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 ditch the past Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 How about keeping the 1st couple of pages with the remainder going to the archives? I know that's more work, but it might be better. Just a thought. Agreed---IF it doesn't involve too much extra work. If it does, trash the whole damn thing. Who cares, really? It's just mooks talking Bills here. Nothing that amounts to much, in the big picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Sounds fine to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Whatever you do, don't change things up like the Hockey's Future boards did. They're all but un-usable now... http://hfboards.mandatory.com/forums/buffalo-sabres.18/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRUSHx Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 ditch the pastI agree, start fresh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Nothing wrong with a little housecleaning even if it is a side effect of the change. Probably the only thing that will matter to some is post count as it is a bit of a proxy for the length of time people have hung around here (Yolo being the notable exception). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRUSHx Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 (edited) I would suggest that those 4.5 million posts represent a critical historical record of the Bills' unprecedented 17-year playoff drought that we should make every effort, for the sake of posterity, to get rid of.Haha, nobody wants any of that. Toss it Edited October 6, 2017 by xRUSHx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 On second thought, there are a few threads on OTW that might be worth saving. I'm thinking of the cooking threads e.g., Sous Vide, and Pizza and the What Show to Watch Next threads have some info that would be missed. Anyway to put those in a Penseive for posterity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Sounds good. So long as I can follow a link to the Mario Williams thread for old times sake, great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted October 6, 2017 Author Share Posted October 6, 2017 Whatever you do, don't change things up like the Hockey's Future boards did. They're all but un-usable now... http://hfboards.mandatory.com/forums/buffalo-sabres.18/ That site will give you herpes. You should be talking about the Sabres on SabreSpace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFlutie Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 (edited) Well, it is a message board, so useful information tends to be current topics of discussion, which are newly created threads. When there's a current topic that happened to be discussed in a very old thread, I'd say 90% of the time people are just creating a new thread anyway. Is migrating only the structure and usernames cheaper/easier? If that's the case, I think it's a no-brainer- especially if there's an archive. Also, think of the usability of the boards with fresh content. Less volume of content makes searching for older threads easier, and may encourage users to do that more often, rather than create duplicates. By the time the board fills back up, perhaps users will have adopted better habits. How about keeping the 1st couple of pages with the remainder going to the archives? I know that's more work, but it might be better. Just a thought. Agreed---IF it doesn't involve too much extra work. If it does, trash the whole damn thing. Who cares, really? It's just mooks talking Bills here. Nothing that amounts to much, in the big picture. Typically with things like data migrations, the effort involved is the planning of the migration, not so much the volume of data being moved. That's usually easy to scale. So I imagine, from an effort standpoint, if he keeps any old posts, it's just as much of a hassle as keeping all of them. Edited October 6, 2017 by BringBackFlutie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Well, it is a message board, so useful information tends to be current topics of discussion, which are newly created threads. When there's a current topic that happened to be discussed in a very old thread, I'd say 90% of the time people are just creating a new thread anyway. Is migrating only the structure and usernames cheaper/easier? If that's the case, I think it's a no-brainer- especially if there's an archive. Also, think of the usability of the boards with fresh content. Less volume of content makes searching for older threads easier, and may encourage users to do that more often, rather than create duplicates. By the time the board fills back up, perhaps users will have adopted better habits. Typically with things like data migrations, the effort involved is the planning of the migration, not so much the volume of data being moved. That's usually easy to scale. So I imagine, from an effort standpoint, if he keeps any old posts, it's just as much of a hassle as keeping all of them. Planning migrations? Who does that. Back it up and wing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 That site will give you herpes. It is butt ugly, that's for sure. Typically with things like data migrations, the effort involved is the planning of the migration, not so much the volume of data being moved. That's usually easy to scale. So I imagine, from an effort standpoint, if he keeps any old posts, it's just as much of a hassle as keeping all of them. That's what I figured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corp000085 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Can we at least save the Retatta recipe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted October 6, 2017 Author Share Posted October 6, 2017 Whatever you do, don't change things up like the Hockey's Future boards did. They're all but un-usable now... http://hfboards.mandatory.com/forums/buffalo-sabres.18/ Despite the inevitable STD, what is unusable about them? Because I am almost certain to use the same software. (It almost appears as though they are using the beta-software that is out now. I'm not sure.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Keep it simple. Get rid of the past posts if it makes it easier to manage. There are few posts worth depositing in storage. The longer you keep garbage the more it rots. Clean the slate and deal with the present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted October 6, 2017 Author Share Posted October 6, 2017 Basically, the thought process behind NOT bringing over 4.5M posts is: 1. Linking structure. Converting old links to new links may be just a rewrite of the URLs but it gets messy. 2. An empty database means the new code should be lightning fast. And fast for a very long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 (edited) We have 4.5 Million posts, but for the most part it is a slow moving chat room. I'm not sure many threads are revisited after a couple weeks have past. If/when I migrate the forum to a contemporary software package - should I just leave the 4.5M posts behind and just transfer the structure and user accounts over? That would mean every forum would start fresh, but there would be a link to the old archives. Any opinions? I cast my ONE vote for exactly as you say. Don't waste too much time on the old stuff. Anyone who wants that, with the archive link you state, should be happy. And I would not waste resources on the archive either. Edited October 6, 2017 by cba fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
145B4IDIE Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 As long as you can keep the Shout Box. That's my favorite part here as a BBMB refugee. Giant sig pics and ad materials make some 'modern' message boards slow to load and excruciatingly hard to read. Search function has vast room for improvement. Ability to upload attachments from locally hosted files would be nice. (can't do that now?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 I'm fine with that. I can never find anything I want in the archives anyway. That said, I'm old. I hate change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haslett_Stomp Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Planning migrations? Who does that. Back it up and wing it. Fall forward, baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted October 6, 2017 Author Share Posted October 6, 2017 As long as you can keep the Shout Box. That's my favorite part here as a BBMB refugee. Giant sig pics and ad materials make some 'modern' message boards slow to load and excruciatingly hard to read. Search function has vast room for improvement. Ability to upload attachments from locally hosted files would be nice. (can't do that now?) yeah, that might not be back for awhile. Someone would have to write an add-on for that. I don't know if/when it would be available. We have never allowed images in signatures. The text one will probably go too. People upload stuff all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Can we get rid of all the old posts except the Trade Mario for Skelton thread and the Von Miller thread? My 2 favorites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 There's very little here worthy of preservation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 There's very little here worthy of preservation. Ain't it the truth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Give it a day or two and all the old topics will be reposted Taylor good / bad Dareus good / bad Gilmore sucks Sammy good / bad Rinse and repeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted October 6, 2017 Author Share Posted October 6, 2017 Can we get rid of all the old posts except the Trade Mario for Skelton thread and the Von Miller thread? My 2 favorites These suggestions are not practical. I'm not fielding requests to import individual threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Lose the history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 After seeing years and years of posting flushed away without notice or even a 2nd thought at BBMB, that you would ask your board members the best course to follow when it comes to archives speaks volumes in my humble opinion. thanks SDS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 I am going to trust the process on this one guys. We're moving forward. We're on to Cincinnati Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Paulson Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 would we still be able to find flutie- johnson debates or the significance of wade phillips wearing a headset? do what you think is best- i never go back and try to find stuff like that, i try to avoid e.j. or rex posts let alone stuff from 15-20 years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 We have 4.5 Million posts, but for the most part it is a slow moving chat room. I'm not sure many threads are revisited after a couple weeks have past. If/when I migrate the forum to a contemporary software package - should I just leave the 4.5M posts behind and just transfer the structure and user accounts over? That would mean every forum would start fresh, but there would be a link to the old archives. Any opinions? 2 questions: What about the UFO thread? Shirley that would be preserved right? If you go ahead and do this will the Bills pick up Simeon Rice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 If there is a cheap way to link to the past and everyone keeps their current credentials that's fine. I am really looking forward to a platform that allows you to go to last page to a post on your mobile without going into full version. I do this move many times a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Sounds Mudgey to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 I refuse to pay $2.99/mo for content that I used to get for free, FYI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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