LabattBlue Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 I know it is just a one game sample, but it seems like Poyer and Hyde are going to be a decent tandem. Hopefully they can keep up the good play. Not sure if Whaley gets the credit for signing them, but if so, it was a nice gift to the Bills as he was about to get the boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog69 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 The thing I noticed is that they really play Hyde very deep in center field. Reminded me of watching tapes of Kelso. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smuvtalker Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 I came away highly impressed. I was very concerned about whether the two would be an upgrade over our previous pair. Even though they appeared to be better, on paper at least, I wondered if it would translate on the field. For one game at least, it surely did. I was particularly impressed with Poyer's run support. I would love to think we've found our safety pairing for the next several years to come... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Poyer really had a terrific game. He comes up fast. All 4-5 DBs played pretty well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Poyer really had a terrific game. He comes up fast. All 4-5 DBs played pretty well.I wonder if that has anything to do with coaching? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 I wonder if that has anything to do with coaching?Yup. If there is one thing McD should know about its db play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 I wonder if that has anything to do with coaching? ....not a chance......the "pundits" here labeled Frazier as a glorified DB Coach that had no business as DC......and it's safe to assume McD blindly and gratuitously hired Frazier because of McD's limited defensive knowledge, including his meaningless tutelage under the legendary DC Jim Johnson.....got it..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Dr. Poyer and Mr. Hyde. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCBillsBeliever Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Dr. Poyer and Mr. Hyde. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HankBulloughMellencamp Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Watching Poyer's athleticism reminds me of having #20 Henry Jones back there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 I know it is just a one game sample, but it seems like Poyer and Hyde are going to be a decent tandem. Hopefully they can keep up the good play. Not sure if Whaley gets the credit for signing them, but if so, it was a nice gift to the Bills as he was about to get the boot. Poyer and Hyde look like they were born to play this scheme, Tre White and Gaines were also extremely impressive. This McDermott guy seems like he knows exactly what players he needs to be effective in his scheme. We stay healthy, we are going to be a tough defense for any team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 But "it was just the Jets".... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 ....not a chance......the "pundits" here labeled Frazier as a glorified DB Coach that had no business as DC......and it's safe to assume McD blindly and gratuitously hired Frazier because of McD's limited defensive knowledge, including his meaningless tutelage under the legendary DC Jim Johnson.....got it..... wasn't he a glorified head Coach as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 I wonder if that has anything to do with coaching? Hot take maybe but the QB and receivers weren't going to challenge the defensive backfield anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 (edited) Dr. Poyer and Mr. Hyde. Trendy. Good enough for now. They do seem to play attached mentally. Which is nice. Fun to watch them again this week. all the secondary actually are worth the look. Bills we be bringing some pressure for Cams tired squeaky arm. is it okay to be enthusiastic about the secondary yet? Watching Poyer's athleticism reminds me of having #20 Henry Jones back there you darned old f'rs !! But "it was just the Jets".... oh. yes. that is correct. nevermind.. Edited September 14, 2017 by 3rdand12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
likei've Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 (edited) I loved what I saw from those two. My concern now is that we released Mabin and are severely lacking in corner depth especially with Gaines being a a bit of an injury risk. I'm a little nervous that if one goes down we start cycling our safeties in the corner rotation and we set ourselves back like we did in years past. Corners are like the one position you can't have enough of and I hope we're not shooting our selves in the foot. Edited September 14, 2017 by likei've Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 I loved what I saw from those two. My concern now is that we released Mabin and are severely lacking in corner depth especially with Gaines being a a bit of an injury risk. I'm a little nervous that if one goes down we start cycling our safeties in the corner rotation and we set ourselves back like we did in years past. Corners are like the one position you can't have enough of and I hope we're not shooting our selves in the foot. -------------- Mabin was brought back today to the PS. These 2 are very quick and rangy. They're not going to be confused with the prototypical thumper but they tackle extremely well and anticipate throws well. Ideal players for the scheme being employed by McD. Whether McD's vision for this team pans out is yet TBD, but it's refreshing to finally have a coach with a plan and the ability to carry it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 I loved what I saw from those two. My concern now is that we released Mabin and are severely lacking in corner depth especially with Gaines being a a bit of an injury risk. I'm a little nervous that if one goes down we start cycling our safeties in the corner rotation and we set ourselves back like we did in years past. Corners are like the one position you can't have enough of and I hope we're not shooting our selves in the foot. Mabin was signed to the PS so it's not that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Just win baby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Im interested to see how the secondary handles the trees that catch the ball for carolina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swnybillsfan Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 i was also very pleased with what i saw from these guys. would love for them to become a dynamic duo for years to come! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 I loved the Hyde signing and like the potential of Poyer. Could be a great S duo for years. But we played a team with a borderline D 1 passing attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Hot take maybe but the QB and receivers weren't going to challenge the defensive backfield anywayLook, I'm not saying the Bills played the 2007 Pats offense, I am saying McDermott knows how to coach the backend of the D. Frazier does as well. They won't look great every game, but I expect in game adjustments like we have not seen in a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Look, I'm not saying the Bills played the 2007 Pats offense, I am saying McDermott knows how to coach the backend of the D. Frazier does as well. They won't look great every game, but I expect in game adjustments like we have not seen in a long time. We had the #4 defense in 2014 and shut down Peyton and Rodgers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 We had the #4 defense in 2014 and shut down Peyton and Rodgers.Correct, and we do not have the same talent on paper in the defensive backfield as we did in 2014. IF this group plays up to near those standards, I think we need to recognize the coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Look, I'm not saying the Bills played the 2007 Pats offense, I am saying McDermott knows how to coach the backend of the D. Frazier does as well. They won't look great every game, but I expect in game adjustments like we have not seen in a long time. I haven't seen enough to agree or disagree with you. All I am saying is that it's too early to tell if the Poyer-Hyde will be effective. Not denying they looked decent in the first game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Wait, a number on this board said they'd be terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HankBulloughMellencamp Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 you darned old f'rs !! old? I didn't say George Saimes!!! Henry Jones played for much of the glory years! Damn, I guess this drought really has gone on for quite awhile now, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 I'm going to reserve real judgement of our new look secondary until we play a QB who is not considered at best a journeyman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 old? I didn't say George Saimes!!! Henry Jones played for much of the glory years! Damn, I guess this drought really has gone on for quite awhile now, eh? Eons it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROONDOGG55 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 I came away highly impressed. I was very concerned about whether the two would be an upgrade over our previous pair. Even though they appeared to be better, on paper at least, I wondered if it would translate on the field. For one game at least, it surely did. I was particularly impressed with Poyer's run support. I would love to think we've found our safety pairing for the next several years to come... I really like these two guys as well, and believe they will be effective into their 30's. However, injuries do happen in this league, and we are stuck with mediocre talent behind them. We will be up s**** creak if either goes down with a significant injury. The lack of depth and quality behind them scares the hell out of me. Hopefully Beane does a great job of brining in young talent in the later rounds to develop behind these guys so we have some options in the future in case they do go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Poyer really had a terrific game. He comes up fast. All 4-5 DBs played pretty well. That, to me, was the biggest question mark of the season. A complete rebuild of the entire secondary. Early results are promising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BmarvB Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Dr. Poyer and Mr. Hyde. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Spartacus Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 old? I didn't say George Saimes!!! Henry Jones played for much of the glory years! Damn, I guess this drought really has gone on for quite awhile now, eh? Or Tony Greene! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webster Guy Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 If I were a safety I'd love to play in McDermott's system they get to have a lot of fun back there. I still think that grabbing Malik Hooker would have been a good move for us but obviously that remains to be seen. If the guy turns out to be the generational talent that many think, he sure would be a perfect fit for a system like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuoteTheRaven83 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Im interested to see how the secondary handles the trees that catch the ball for carolina. More worried about the little shrub more than anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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