BillnutinHouston Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 ...and yet none of it really matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Pro Football Talk has the Bills at #2: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/10/03/week-four-power-rankings-7/ 2. Bills (3-1; No. 11): You want respect, LeSean? Here’s your respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Pro Football Talk has the Bills at #2: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/10/03/week-four-power-rankings-7/ 2. Bills (3-1; No. 11): You want respect, LeSean? Here’s your respect. Its a set up. He can't wait to call out McCoy next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 (edited) So this is the week that we like power rankings right? 4 weeks ago they were BS but now they are great right? Edited October 3, 2017 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BmarvB Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 #3 right now https://www.usatoday.com/sports/nfl/rankings/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 So this is the week that we like power rankings right? 4 weeks ago they were BS bit now they are great right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Pygmy Goat Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 (edited) How do you...? How do you...? Wait... How do you beat the Polls Week 4 Number 1 team in the rankings and not move up? How do you step back as a reviewer of this poll, see that only one team in the NFL has beaten half of your current top 4, and stick that 3-1 team in the middle of the pack?! And this is why people shouldn't pay too much attention to "power rankings". The word "power" is added, because they cannot refer to them simply as "rankings". Otherwise, the Bills would be near the top, and there would only be on "ranking" needed. "Power rankings" aren't as cut and dry as "What's your record?", and "Who have you beaten/lost to?". The rankings are very heavily influenced in reputation, and not quite as much by "what have you done lately" as we would like or assume these rankings to be. This allows multiple outlets to cash in on clicks. That's why you have a team ranked differently by different media outlets. These are nothing more than click bait "power rankings". Edited October 3, 2017 by Drunken Pygmy Goat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 (edited) And this is why people shouldn't pay too much attention to "power rankings". The word "power" is added, because they cannot refer to them simply as "rankings". Otherwise, the Bills would be near the top, and there would only be on "ranking" needed. "Power rankings" aren't as cut and dry as "What's your record?", and "Who have you beaten/lost to?". The rankings are very heavily influenced in reputation, and not quite as much by "what have you done lately" as we would like or assume these rankings to be. Someone should start a power ranking and call it "Real Power Rankings". Edited October 3, 2017 by dollars 2 donuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Someone should start a power ranking and call it "Real Power Rankings". I've been considering it. Basically, a simulation that randomly ranks the teams, then judges how far off they are from other teams above/below them based on objective metrics, giving them a positive/negative score for that particular placement. Run that a million times, and the cumulative score should allow reasonable rankings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Pygmy Goat Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 (edited) Someone should start a power ranking and call it "Real Power Rankings". We have that already. It's called "standings". Most halfway knowledgeable fans can tell which teams at or near the top of the rankings are for real, and which ones have been lucky or will flame out, on any given year. As the season goes on, it becomes much much easier to figure out. 4 games is a small sample size, but not too small. When you beat two of the best teams in the league this year, and over the course of the last few years, on those 4 games, you can confidently believe that said team is closer to being "for real" than it is closer to "flaming out". The problem with simply checking "standings" is that there's really no debate. You are what your record says you are. But with "power rankings", there's plenty of room for debate. They're like argumentative essays in a way. And in today's social media, internet driven business world, facts don't sell as much as opinions (unfortunately). That's why ESPN is getting blasted in the comments section. The opinion given by the source doesn't necessarily match that of the knowledgeable reader. But they don't care, because having a controversial opinion = $$$$$ on the internet. As long as people are stupid enough to continue putting too much focus on the wrong things, media outlets like ESPN will thrive. Edited October 3, 2017 by Drunken Pygmy Goat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Beat the #3 team and stay ranked 15th. Bravo, ESPN.On the road, no less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Pygmy Goat Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Pro Football Talk has the Bills at #2: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/10/03/week-four-power-rankings-7/ 2. Bills (3-1; No. 11): You want respect, LeSean? Here’s your respect. nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaviorPeterman Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 I still wouldn't put too much stock in these and if we lose in Cincy guarantee we'll plummet again in most of these rankings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Florio has the bills at number 2... That seems a little outrageous lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Honestly, I think we will end up somewhere around a 10-15 sort of team. We are a little short on the talent side of the equation. I do believe we will address a good portion of that by next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 I'd probably have the Bills between 5-10. They are a drop from being undefeated. They would have 3 great wins if that were the case. Even the Jets aren't nearly as awful as we thought. Denver and Atlanta are great wins though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 ...Chris Simms has them at #10........... 10. Buffalo Bills Last Week's Ranking: 15 Hey, I'll admit the Buffalo Bills have surprised me this season, and I'll give them much respect. What they're doing on the defensive side of the ball is incredible. I just can't say enough about Sean McDermott and the way he's raised the level of discipline on that side of the ball. This isn't a team with a lot of superstars on defense, but it forces teams to play mistake-free football. When they don't, they pay. The Bills proved that with a major win over the Atlanta Falcons at Mercedes-Benz Stadium. Micah Hyde had two interceptions, and Jerry Hughes had a sack-fumble that was returned for a touchdown. These were turning points in the game, and they show how this Buffalo defense can force a team to beat itself with mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Pro Football Weekly Rankings with your Buffalo Bills at #10: http://www.profootballweekly.com/lists/2017/10/03/95acbdf795c349ebb33ce942d03fb59b/index.xml?page=5 10. Bills: 3-1 No. 1 scoring defense will take you a long way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 (edited) ESPN has them at 15, which is probably fair. 2 and 3 are just people joking around. When Tolbert and Zay Jones are an injury away from your top skill position starters, you cant crack the top 10. Edited October 3, 2017 by BeginnersMind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 ESPN has them at 15, which is probably fair. 2 and 3 are just people joking around. When Tolbert and Zay Jones are an injury away from your top skill position starters, you cant crack the top 10. At the same time they are a drop from being 4 and 0. They have 2 GREAT wins as well. It's not like they are beating up on the 49ers. Even the Jets are a little better than we all thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 I'm actually fine with them at #10, even if it's behind Denver and Atlanta. We need our offense to put more points up on the board consistently for us to take the next step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 i know many keep bringing up the loss of jones during the falcons game, but it's not like the bills were at full strength. they entered into the game without their starting lt and de. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxbomber21 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 USA Today has Buffalo a #3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 i know many keep bringing up the loss of jones during the falcons game, but it's not like the bills were at full strength. they entered into the game without their starting lt and de. Also our starting WLB and starting WR during the game. But the Falcons had put up 3 points by the time Jones was hurt and only 10 when Sanu was hurt. It's not like they were moving the ball and then stopped with the injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 USA Today has Buffalo a #3 I would like to have that ranking come the end of week 17, but for now it means nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 @RyanTalbotBills Update: The #Bills are as high as No. 2 in one power ranking. http://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2017/10/nfl_week_5_power_rankings_buffalo_bills_crack_top_10_after_win_over_falcons.html#incart_river_index Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Also our starting WLB and starting WR during the game. But the Falcons had put up 3 points by the time Jones was hurt and only 10 when Sanu was hurt. It's not like they were moving the ball and then stopped with the injuries. right. don't get me wrong. i completely understand how important jones and sanu are to that offense, but they still had the better qb, and likely the better wrs, even with the duo out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 right. don't get me wrong. i completely understand how important jones and sanu are to that offense, but they still had the better qb, and likely the better wrs, even with the duo out. I never get you wrong....never (in a whisper level voice next to your ear) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Colin Cowherd has us at 9...says we're only going to get better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 ESPN has them at 15, which is probably fair. 2 and 3 are just people joking around. When Tolbert and Zay Jones are an injury away from your top skill position starters, you cant crack the top 10. Based on win loss record and strength of opponents the Bills are closer to 5 to 8 15 is for the 2-2 teams struggling to win the 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 ...somewhere within the top 12 is perfectly fine......anything less is premature drool time...besides under the radar works and who really gives a rat's azz after FOUR games?........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 The AP Pro32 rankings are out as well. The Bills are #11, which to me is fine, but what the hell is Jenny Vrentas smoking? She has them at #17. 10 of the other 11 voters have them no worse than 11, and the one other guy has them at 13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Colin Cowherd has us at 9...says we're only going to get better. For him that's actually a pretty high praise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 We are tied for 2nd in the power rankings that matter: http://www.espn.com/nfl/standings/_/group/league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 So this is the week that we like power rankings right? 4 weeks ago they were BS but now they are great right? How true. But we know the Power Ratings are ALWAYS BS. There is already a damn good system in place: The Standings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 (edited) How true. But we know the Power Ratings are ALWAYS BS. There is already a damn good system in place: The Standings. Nonsense. Those have no room for baseless conjecture, whimsical expert opinion, or biases for/against certain teams. Edited October 3, 2017 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x-BillzeBubba Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 How true. But we know the Power Ratings are ALWAYS BS. There is already a damn good system in place: The Standings. PR are for betting ONLY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 (edited) PR are for betting ONLY How does a PR influence betting? I'm seriously asking. I can't see how anyone with even half a clue would use PR in making a bet. And, which PR rating would they use? They aren't used in setting the spread to any degree, as far as I know. Edited October 3, 2017 by The Dean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 How does a PR influence betting? I'm seriously asking. I can't see how anyone with even half a clue would use PR in making a bet. And, which PT rating would they use? They aren't used in setting the spread to any degree, as far as I know. "I bet people who believe this Power Ranking are stupid." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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