Reed83HOF Posted January 11, 2017 Author Share Posted January 11, 2017 Not to play devil's advocate but the Lions and Saints (to a lesser extent) have the opposite problem. They can throw it all over the yard but the clock stops and teams have chances to get back into games. It's a double edged sword. An elite running game helps you protect leads. An elite passing game allows you to come back in games. The answer is you want both. It truly is all about balance...and we have none Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Cutler in Buffalo is a mismatch made in hell. The people will hate him and his odd duck detached personality. He is one guy I hope doesn't materialize. He doesn't do anything for me either. I'm just trying to throw out a realistic option. They will need some sort of vet prior to the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted January 11, 2017 Author Share Posted January 11, 2017 (edited) John Wawrow @john_wawrow 4m4 minutes ago As much as I'd like to report something more definitive, caution prevails based on the responses I'm getting from various people. 0 replies 0 retweets 1 like John Wawrow @john_wawrow 3m3 minutes ago Now, if I find McDermott at The Swannie in 15 minutes, that will certainly alter the course of this story. Edited January 11, 2017 by Reed83HOF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Not to play devil's advocate but the Lions and Saints (to a lesser extent) have the opposite problem. They can throw it all over the yard but the clock stops and teams have chances to get back into games. It's a double edged sword. An elite running game helps you protect leads. An elite passing game allows you to come back in games. The answer is you want both. True. I personally love defense and running games. It just seems like counting on the run puts so much pressure on your offense to produce points every drive or else things can get ugly. Unless you have a top 5 D to go with it. Then we're talking. Even still my issue is that you can play suffocating D all game, run it well, then one drive by a QB like Rogers or Brady undoes it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 This is a GREAT DAY if this happens. McDermott a straight laced defensive guy from *William & Mary/Philadelphia Eagles* like Marv and McCoy the great offensive mind. Get er done, Whaley. CLOSE THE DEAL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Is that a new report or the same one thats been circulating? Would really love to know the logic behind dismantling an offense that was seventh in points scored after tyrods last game. Makes zero sense. Maybe theyre gonna burn this thing to the ground and tank for darnold Its what happens when you fire coaches as we were forced to do to Rex. McDermott's guy is McCoy, not Lynn. Lynn may in fact be the Chargers HC. McCoy is an outstanding candidate to take over the offense, its rare the Bills get a coordinator as qualified as he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 True. I personally love defense and running games. It just seems like counting on the run puts so much pressure on your offense to produce points every drive or else things can get ugly. Unless you have a top 5 D to go with it. Then we're talking. Even still my issue is that you can play suffocating D all game, run it well, then one drive by a QB like Rogers or Brady undoes it all. Sounds like the solution is simple, have a good passing game to put us in the lead, a defense to keep us in the lead, and a running game to finish the clock off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Sounds like the solution is simple, have a good passing game to put us in the lead, a defense to keep us in the lead, and a running game to finish the clock off. Let's do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bftvocal70 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Sounds like the solution is simple, have a good passing game to put us in the lead, a defense to keep us in the lead, and a running game to finish the clock off. Boom goes the dynamite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 @siriusXMNFL "If they get it done, I think its a home run for the @buffalobills " - Bill Polian on Sean McDermott as possible #BillsMafia next HC Bill Polian advised Marv Levy to hire Dick Jauron. That is where the hair brained idea that ushered in the dark ages came from in the first place. He told Marv that if Dungy weren't available Jauron would have been his hire to replace Jim Mora. The only thing we need from that washed up bag o' dicks is his luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 It truly is all about balance...and we have none Being elite at running did help the Bills to 7th in PPG (through 16 weeks) and a +41 point differential so it wasn't as if the offense didn't accomplish anything. They scored, and scored a lot. They had a hard time coming back though. Balance may very well result in less scoring but hopefully will result in a few more comebacks (without sacrificing your ability to protect leads on offense). Coaching and an improved kicking game will help in that regard too. The Bills need to execute late in games (especially defensively). Again, ditching the Ryan's will hopefully prevent teams from scoring TDs on 17 of 18 RZ trips. That will certainly lead to more wins. Without oversimplifying it the Bills need to find ways to win a couple more close games. That's what good teams do. The Bills miss field goals and send 10 guys on the field. We aren't far but execution doesn't come easily. It's what separates Bama and the Pats from the field on an annual basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 John Wawrow @john_wawrow 4m4 minutes ago As much as I'd like to report something more definitive, caution prevails based on the responses I'm getting from various people. 0 replies 0 retweets 1 like John Wawrow @john_wawrow 3m3 minutes agoNow, if I find McDermott at The Swannie in 15 minutes, that will certainly alter the course of this story. McD in Buffalo, Pegula's in NC going to Boca tomorrow. Whaley looking at porn in his office. Who the hell is he with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Apps Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 (edited) Bill Polian advised Marv Levy to hire Dick Jauron. That is where the hair brained idea that ushered in the dark ages came from in the first place. He told Marv that if Dungy weren't available Jauron would have been his hire to replace Jim Mora. The only thing we need from that washed up bag o' dicks is his luck. Thank You, been saying for awhile Polian is massive overrated as a GM. Edited January 11, 2017 by K-Apps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 This sounds like the latest dumb head coaching move in a sea of bad moves over the last 15 years. I think continuity on offense was important, building on what worked was key, and yet we're seemingly throwing it all away and starting over again. And I can't believe anyone is suggesting we bring in Cutler. Are people serious? I agree with this. We had a good enough offense to win. We just needed to fix the defense. Lynn plus Bradley and keep Tyrod made sense. Continuity. We could win 10 games with that formula. If you guys think we are bringing in a brand new quarterback who then has to learn a brand new offense not to mention a new defense and then we are making the playoffs then you are crazy. We will win 6 games next year tops. I've personally never been interested in winning 10 games and being 1 and done. I want a team that will win the super bowl. If we are going to do that then we need to blow it up and tank. Are they really prepared to do that when we still have so many talented players in their prime? Lynn and Bradley makes more sense. Win 10 games get the monkey off your back then blow it up in 2 years when you are ready to take the next step Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclynrea21 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 (edited) Broncos wants McCoy back so... Link: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/01/09/report-vance-joseph-reaches-out-to-mike-mccoy-for-oc/ Edited January 11, 2017 by jaclynrea21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Welp. He's the anti-Rex. Seems Philbinesque to me - a boring white gym socks kinda square. Hope he hires a good staff. That's the way it always goes with coaches. You fire the loudmouth media whore; you hire the bland workaholic. And vice versa. Sometimes it works, or at least seems to work - maybe it's just luck turning that we ascribe to having a new coach. But whatever. This was needed. Boring is good. At least for this team right now. And I kind of like McCoy too. McD in Buffalo, Pegula's in NC going to Boca tomorrow. Whaley looking at porn in his office. Who the hell is he with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 (edited) Broncos wants McCoy back so... Link: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/01/09/report-vance-joseph-reaches-out-to-mike-mccoy-for-oc/ Vance Joseph wants McCoy if he get's the HC job. Not necessarily the Broncos. Just clarifying. Edited January 11, 2017 by The Wiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Being elite at running did help the Bills to 7th in PPG (through 16 weeks) and a +41 point differential so it wasn't as if the offense didn't accomplish anything. They scored, and scored a lot. They had a hard time coming back though. Balance may very well result in less scoring but hopefully will result in a few more comebacks (without sacrificing your ability to protect leads on offense). Coaching and an improved kicking game will help in that regard too. The Bills need to execute late in games (especially defensively). Again, ditching the Ryan's will hopefully prevent teams from scoring TDs on 17 of 18 RZ trips. That will certainly lead to more wins. Without oversimplifying it the Bills need to find ways to win a couple more close games. That's what good teams do. The Bills miss field goals and send 10 guys on the field. We aren't far but execution doesn't come easily. It's what separates Bama and the Pats from the field on an annual basis. Yeah it's not a balance issue on offense. TT is a middle of the league passer. Bills had days where Bob Woods was the only WR on the roster who could make most rosters........literally guys like Hunter, Tate and Powell were key targets for Tyrod and are hanging by a thread as NFL players. And when you are running the ball into the end zone you can't throw it on the next play........you gotta' kickoff. When you outscore 80% of the offenses in the NFL that's something you should probably consider building on rather than starting over........but hey......Bills gonna' Billsy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclynrea21 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Vance Joseph wants McCoy if he get's the HC job. Not necessarily the Broncos. Just clarifying. Oh I thought he was the HC lol. Hit the panic button to soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 I agree with this. We had a good enough offense to win. We just needed to fix the defense. Lynn plus Bradley and keep Tyrod made sense. Continuity. We could win 10 games with that formula. If you guys think we are bringing in a brand new quarterback who then has to learn a brand new offense not to mention a new defense and then we are making the playoffs then you are crazy. We will win 6 games next year tops. I've personally never been interested in winning 10 games and being 1 and done. I want a team that will win the super bowl. If we are going to do that then we need to blow it up and tank. Are they really prepared to do that when we still have so many talented players in their prime? Lynn and Bradley makes more sense. Win 10 games get the monkey off your back then blow it up in 2 years when you are ready to take the next step Why would you hire a coach to blow it up in two years? That's exactly what I think would happen if they hired Lynn- 2 years and reset. Absolutely did not want Lynn as HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Hadn't seen this posted here. Interesting for people who care about Woods and Gilmore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 (edited) Oh I thought he was the HC lol. Hit the panic button to soon Well I edited at the right time because I thought he was still with the broncos based on your statement and had to make some changes. He did hang around with 2 different coaches when he was with the broncos(McDaniels, Fox) and I'm sure they are familiar with him so they (broncos) could want him back as OC. Edited January 11, 2017 by The Wiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash_Gash Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 This guy likely to be DC if McDermott gets the hc gig... http://m.chron.com/sports/texans/article/Texans-John-Butler-has-ties-to-Bills-HC-target-10849220.php?cmpid=twitter-mobile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuru4 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 (edited) Sounds like the solution is simple, have a good passing game to put us in the lead, a defense to keep us in the lead, and a running game to finish the clock off. Yesssss, and good special teams to flip the field, its that easy! Edited January 11, 2017 by BillsGuru4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 This guy likely to be DC if McDermott gets the hc gig... http://m.chron.com/sports/texans/article/Texans-John-Butler-has-ties-to-Bills-HC-target-10849220.php?cmpid=twitter-mobile John Butler? If you are going to bring back a name from the past bring back Wade as DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Why would you hire a coach to blow it up in two years? That's exactly what I think would happen if they hired Lynn- 2 years and reset. Absolutely did not want Lynn as HC. Because we have players to win now. By changing the QB and the entire offense there's no way we win next year. Might as well just blow it up and start from scratch at that point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 John Wawrow @john_wawrowHmmmm.Give me at least a half hour Something may be up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Because we have players to win now. By changing the QB and the entire offense there's no way we win next year. Might as well just blow it up and start from scratch at that point Do we know the Bills are changing the QB? If they are, then they didn't think TT can take the team to the promised land. Bottom line- Rex was a bad hire and his defense wasn't going to work. Better to get rid of him now than wait another year. So yes, the reset button was hit a year early. If the Bills have players to win now, why didn't they win. I don't see why they couldn't improve on 7 wins in 2017. If theQB is a rookie, then this is a change for the long haul ( what Pegula thought he was getting with Rex) and 4-6 wins is probably the ceiling . We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted January 11, 2017 Author Share Posted January 11, 2017 Jason Cole @JasonColeBR 4m4 minutes ago Source made it clear #Panthers DC Sean McDermott is expected to be the #Bills next head coach, as @viccarucci has reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy McFiddish Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 his Dunn Tire commercial will be less douchey than Rex's Hahaha this made me laugh so hard I shot some water out my nose lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Because we have players to win now. By changing the QB and the entire offense there's no way we win next year. Might as well just blow it up and start from scratch at that point I think I remember some similar comments when Kyle Orton retired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 He worked with Tebow, he could make Tyrod work Hey that's very true actually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 And, yeah, I know McCoy OC-ed the Broncos to the rushing crown one year. But implementing a new system takes time. And the old system with Tyrod forcing the DEs and OLBs to play contain helped open things up for McCoy and the other RBs. Whatever flaws he had, Roman was a guru at play-design and Lynn did well preparing the team and play-calling. McCoy put that offense in in mid season. Roman did a great job for us IMHO. Rex threw him under the bus because his defense stunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy McFiddish Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Do we know the Bills are changing the QB? If they are, then they didn't think TT can take the team to the promised land. Bottom line- Rex was a bad hire and his defense wasn't going to work. Better to get rid of him now than wait another year. So yes, the reset button was hit a year early. If the Bills have players to win now, why didn't they win. I don't see why they couldn't improve on 7 wins in 2017. If theQB is a rookie, then this is a change for the long haul ( what Pegula thought he was getting with Rex) and 4-6 wins is probably the ceiling . We'll see. I think they release Tyrod and eat the 2.8 mil dead cap, if nobody signs him he could always be resigned cheap if the team wanted to. I am not 100% sold on And Qb besides Watson this draft and no way he would fall to 10. I admit I am not convinced with Kizer and I torture myself as a ND fan lol. McCoy put that offense in in mid season. Roman did a great job for us IMHO. Rex threw him under the bus because his defense stunk. I fully agree with you on this, somehow that worked after the dbs were the ones that had a rough game that night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 (edited) McDermott is probably the top candidate after McDaniels and Shanahan. I'm sure it will be praised around the league. Pegulas and Whaley had to bend over backwards to get it done though. Edited January 11, 2017 by TheTruthHurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted January 11, 2017 Author Share Posted January 11, 2017 McD in Buffalo, Pegula's in NC going to Boca tomorrow. Whaley looking at porn in his office. Who the hell is he with? Russ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offyourocker Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 So what worries me here is two names are mentionned. HC and OC. Who is the DC? I don't want another HC that does both or puts in someone as a figure head DC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McD Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 McD in Buffalo, Pegula's in NC going to Boca tomorrow. Whaley looking at porn in his office. Who the hell is he with? Actually I'm in St Louis! Interestingly enough... I'm also a Defensive Coordinator.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 John Wawrow @john_wawrow Hmmmm. Give me at least a half hour Something may be up? Maybe he has his newspaper and is headed to the bathroom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted January 11, 2017 Author Share Posted January 11, 2017 This guy likely to be DC if McDermott gets the hc gig... http://m.chron.com/sports/texans/article/Texans-John-Butler-has-ties-to-Bills-HC-target-10849220.php?cmpid=twitter-mobile It is actually Steve Wilks, DB coach, if the Panthers let him walk and don't promote him to DC.... Or I did see this earlier: Sal Capaccio @SalSports 3h3 hours ago If Sean McDermott is new Bills HC, and it appears things are going in that direction keep hearing his new DC is http://tinyurl.com/gqy5gng Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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