stevewin Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 If I even hint about my insider he is done for as my insider. He will never tell me anything again. Watch how the TP and KP disappear real soon from the public eye. Same thing with the GM. Watch how players step up this week. They are terrified about losing their jobs to the new coach... just watch. Watch how everything will be about the Sabres.... everything. Total misdirection. This means the the players AND coaching staff know the staff are lame ducks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Coughlin was not good his last few years with NYG and that was with a franchise QB. How many losing seasons did he post in a row in what had been a bad division? I would not be excited about that hire at all. However, he's viable in the market because Jags were reportedly talking to him http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/jaguars-expected-to-reach-out-to-tom-coughlin-who-has-mutual-interest/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Let me guess. LaConjecture! @JasonLaCanfora Rex Ryan in jeopardy of losing his job as soon as this week, as is Tyrod Taylor - http://CBSSports.com @salmaiorana I trust Shefter, Rappoport more than LaCanfora. Hey, maybe he’s right. I think it would be stupid The name LaConjecture is well earned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Fail organizations are fail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Coughlin was not good his last few years with NYG and that was with a franchise QB. How many losing seasons did he post in a row in what had been a bad division? I would not be excited about that hire at all. However, he's viable in the market because Jags were reportedly talking to him http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/jaguars-expected-to-reach-out-to-tom-coughlin-who-has-mutual-interest/ Well if the Jags hire Coughlin back, then maybe we should hire Chan Gailey back. Fitz would have another starting job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Coughlin was not good his last few years with NYG and that was with a franchise QB. How many losing seasons did he post in a row in what had been a bad division? I would not be excited about that hire at all. However, he's viable in the market because Jags were reportedly talking to him http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/jaguars-expected-to-reach-out-to-tom-coughlin-who-has-mutual-interest/ I think he does pretty good against BB in big games though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 I think he does pretty good against BB in big games though.... i will give him that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 That would be a better way to assess it...if you are going to use end of season results, then playoff teams would be a better measure. If you are going to say "teams with winning records" then using the end of the season record is not a fair nor accurate barometer because so many factors come into play that will affect that teams remainder of the season that were not factors at the time they played. Using the term, beat teams with winning records, then the record has to be the record at the time we beat that team to an accurate statement because what ever happens in the future after that game has not happened yet. I agree, the only flaw is when a team beats a playoff bound team late in the season that is resting starters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 i will give him that. They have an awful GM and that hurt Coughlin as well as the team; he spent money this year and their D is much better. Eli is interesting while he is good and technically a franchise QB; he leaves a lot to be desired.All in all Coughlin did a good job in turning that team around... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Coughlin is the only guy I can think of who might come to Buffalo who is a "big name." So I think it's fair to assume our owners aren't in negotiations with a coordinator that currently has a job. If we remove big names that are irrelevant (Gruden, Cowher, etc.) I think you're left with Tom Coughlin, Mike Shanahan, and Lovie Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 They have an awful GM and that hurt Coughlin as well as the team; he spent money this year and their D is much better. Eli is interesting while he is good and technically a franchise QB; he leaves a lot to be desired.All in all Coughlin did a good job in turning that team around... Would also add, that He showed the ability to adapt as time went on. Met with team leaders and tried making it a bit more fun. It worked 2 super bowls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 So I think it's fair to assume our owners aren't in negotiations with a coordinator that currently has a job. If we remove big names that are irrelevant (Gruden, Cowher, etc.) I think you're left with Tom Coughlin, Mike Shanahan, and Lovie Smith. That is about it. I would toss Harbaugh in the mix - I don't want him though and I don't see any other college guy unless it is Sweeney which makes sense since we draft his team in the first round every year.... Would also add, that He showed the ability to adapt as time went on. Met with team leaders and tried making it a bit more fun. It worked 2 super bowls. I forgot about that and that was a huge turning point for him.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 That is about it. I would toss Harbaugh in the mix - I don't want him though and I don't see any other college guy unless it is Sweeney which makes sense since we draft his team in the first round every year.... I do believe that the Harbaugh in Baltimore's contract is up after this year, but that doesn't fit with having things in place now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Coughlin is not the answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 So I think it's fair to assume our owners aren't in negotiations with a coordinator that currently has a job. If we remove big names that are irrelevant (Gruden, Cowher, etc.) I think you're left with Tom Coughlin, Mike Shanahan, and Lovie Smith. Lovie Smith HATES his current job so I could see him returning to the NFL for any opportunity. Not that I want him here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 I do believe that the Harbaugh in Baltimore's contract is up after this year, but that doesn't fit with having things in place now. There is no way they let him leave; that is the only Harbaugh I want any part of.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 I'm good with Coughlin. Guy is a winner. At the very least, he'll rid the losers from the locker room and front office. My guess is Pegulas informed Rex he isn't coming back and gave him choice to coach last 3 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Lovie Smith HATES his current job so I could see him returning to the NFL for any opportunity. Not that I want him here.smith is not a good at head coaching.And coughlin is the opposite of Ryan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 My insider finally paid off. Rex will be fired at end of year. New coach has already been cleared and is in final contract negotiations. This guy is dead serious and already assembling his staff. This guy has been off the radar moving super quietly. He is a big name. I'm not saying your source lacks credibility but the process you are describing makes little sense to me. Assuming that Rex gets fired after the season then why wouldn't the organization open up the hiring search to more candidates? Why target and lock in someone so soon when a more appealing candidate/s might surprisingly become available? One of the glaring mistakes that was made in the Rex hiring was for the owner (Kim) to act on her first impulse. It seems to me that no matter who the favorite candidates are it would be wise to discuss the pros and cons among a number of football people inside and outside of the organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leroi Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 More False News from a major news outlet. Where are the consequences, why has no one resigned? What has happened to journalism? Imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billschinatown Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 I'm not saying your source lacks credibility but the process you are describing makes little sense to me. Assuming that Rex gets fired after the season then why wouldn't the organization open up the hiring search to more candidates? Why target and lock in someone so soon when a more appealing candidate/s might surprisingly become available? One of the glaring mistakes that was made in the Rex hiring was for the owner (Kim) to act on her first impulse. It seems to me that no matter who the favorite candidates are it would be wise to discuss the pros and cons among a number of football people inside and outside of the organization. Maybe it's a good one? The return of doug!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 More False News from a major news outlet. Where are the consequences, why has no one resigned? What has happened to journalism? Imo The Russians have hacked Tyrod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Maybe it's a good one? The return of doug!!! It can't be Doug because he buried himself with his own shovel! The only person this curmudgeon outsmarted was himself. He took the buyout and then sabotaged his future in the business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billschinatown Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 (edited) It can't be Doug because he buried himself with his own shovel! The only person this curmudgeon outsmarted was himself. He took the buyout and then sabotaged his future in the business. I would seriously, not kidding, once and for all order my patriots #12 jersey, if Douglas "what's the word I'm looking for" Marrone came back. . Edited December 13, 2016 by Billschinatown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Joe Chenelly @jchenelly Dec 11 @pawlikIII I hear nothing of any rumors regarding Rex. I do hear that the opinion of Tyrod has shifted for the negative. Joe Chenelly @jchenelly 11h11 hours ago @nickellion79 Now hearing most all of One Bills Drive expects Rex to be gone immediately following the season. #BillsMafia Joe Chenelly @jchenelly 11h11 hours ago @nickellion79 Sweeping changes among coaches not front office. Of course, that's just an assumption by the front office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Or he could stick around and change nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 This is finnnnnnnne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyudi Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 My insider finally paid off. Rex will be fired at end of year. New coach has already been cleared and is in final contract negotiations. This guy is dead serious and already assembling his staff. This guy has been off the radar moving super quietly. He is a big name. Isn't the Rooney Rule still a thing? Unless the mystery coach meets the requirements already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Isn't the Rooney Rule still a thing? Unless the mystery coach meets the requirements already. could they have interviewed lynn in secret? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Isn't the Rooney Rule still a thing? Unless the mystery coach meets the requirements already. Yes it is. There are a few exceptions to the rule where it is not applied, but those are unlikely in our situation now. So either we are going to hire a minority and that person is the only person we have approached (that would satisfy the rule) or we have actually interviewed a minority but are looking to hire someone else. Assuming the rumor is correct of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Jason LaCanfora called out for pushing another BS story: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/12/12/mike-shanahans-not-being-hired-jed-yorks-not-being-fired-by-49ers/ This time trying to push for a job for Shanahan with the 49ers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 If they already had someone agreeing to the job, they would have to be currently on this staff,a college guy,or currently no employed with a team cause otherwise I believe it would be tampering negotiating with another teams coach. Throw in the Rooney rule and this rumor can be laughed off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 My insider finally paid off. Rex will be fired at end of year. New coach has already been cleared and is in final contract negotiations. This guy is dead serious and already assembling his staff. This guy has been off the radar moving super quietly. He is a big name. Tom Coughlin, maybe? A SB winning HC, that still wants to coach that will bring discipline and accountability to the team, because the players aren't bystanders in this mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Fire lacanfora. Is his lazy eye the source that gives him all these nuggets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 I would rather keep Rex than go with Shanny. At least Rex is a decent dude. Shanny sucks equally and is a big jerk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Tom Coughlin, maybe? A SB winning HC, that still wants to coach that will bring discipline and accountability to the team, because the players aren't bystanders in this mess. while I don't think he had the discipline and accountability with the Giants at the end (obj was a train wreck and the team was just bad and penalty prone) he is the "opposite" of Rex and teams usually go for that with a coaching change. Like from marrone to Rex. I think my excitement level with Coughlin would really depend on who his coordinators were. He does seem like a good "fit" at this time with where the organization is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HT02 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 I would rather keep Rex than go with Shanny. At least Rex is a decent dude. Shanny sucks equally and is a big jerk. I agree with you on both counts, the sad part is actually like Rex his is fun and if they were winning we'd all be having a blast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Isn't the Rooney Rule still a thing? Unless the mystery coach meets the requirements already. Good point, this narrows it down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 (edited) Good point, this narrows it down i think they could have a tentative deal in place on the down low and not formally hire or announce it until after they interview in compliance with the Rooney Rule. Edited December 13, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Good point, this narrows it down YOU PLAY. TO WIN. THE GAME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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