papazoid Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 name the great coaches who never had a pro bowl QB ? it'll be a very short list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Every coach in the history of the NFL has been evaluated by their record. Well, maybe apart from Gus Bradley and Jeff Fisher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 My logic is based on playoffs. Stop embarrassing yourself. Did Rex make the postseason with a winning record last year with a bad QB? Oh, no. Case closed. BOB > The Rexit. Tyrod isn't a bad QB. He's about average as a passer and well above average as a runner. I think he has done a standup job in the offense being run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Tyrod isn't a bad QB. He's about average as a passer and well above average as a runner. I think he has done a standup job in the offense being run. He's below average as a passer who can't deliver the ball with timing, anticipation and accuracy on a regular basis. If he can't make it happen from the pocket with any regularity then he's simply not the answer and that makes him a substandard QB IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Tyrod isn't a bad QB. He's about average as a passer and well above average as a runner. I think he has done a standup job in the offense being run. Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuoteTheRaven83 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Kyle Shanahan or Darrell Bevell would be my votes. We need someone that can develop a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baskingridgebillsfan Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 name the great coaches who never had a pro bowl QB ? it'll be a very short list. indeed Every coach in the history of the NFL has been evaluated by their record good chance Rex is 17-15 after two seasons. My guess is would be a very short list of coaches fired with that record Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 I don't necessarily want Josh McDaniels as HC but I want his offense and that's the only way to get it. Also need a QB that can throw those quick 1 second passes to Julian Edelman types Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 I'd take Marrone back if it meant getting rid of Rex. No, I'm not kidding. Rex Ryan is the 2nd worst HC the Bills have had since Marv Levy left (Gregg Williams). He has to go. Agree 100%. Yeah scary right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 (edited) If some great HC came out of retirement to coach the Bills, I'd be all in favor of firing Rex. But should we fire Rex to gamble on another retread with a mixed resume? Or some DC, OC, or college coach who's never been a head coach in the NFL? I'm not convinced. Most of the names suggested so far either (1) don't inspire much hope for a better result, or (2) aren't realistic. Edited December 6, 2016 by hondo in seattle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Joe Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 (edited) Jim Leonhard -DB Coach Wisconsin Rex will need him to play in the secondary with Ed Reed week 16. Heck he may even be team captain against the Jets. I know off topic but I couldn't resist. As for the Harbaughs I rooted for the good one in the Super Bowl. The latest: John leading the Ravens over the Phins last week. Jim (Rex 2.0) stiil selling the idea he will beat The OSU. A, Lynn - I'm still having issues with his back-to-back wildcat calls last week. Coughlin gets a vote for czar. Getting up in years for the rigors of coaching. HC - Cowher? Edited December 7, 2016 by Uncle Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 McDaniels or Patricia there's two. There is more though. I think McDaniels is staying with the Patriots until Belichick steps down. Patricia doesn't seem like a HC to me. Kyle Shanahan or Darrell Bevell would be my votes. We need someone that can develop a QB. Kyle Shanahan isn't a bad thought but we need a strong defensive coordinator to come with him. Rex will need him to play in the secondary with Ed Reed week 16. Heck he may even be team captain against the Jets. I know off topic but I couldn't resist. As for the Harbaughs I rooted for the good one in the Super Bowl. The latest: John leading the Ravens over the Phins last week. Jim (Rex 2.0) stiil selling the idea he will beat The OSU. A, Lynn - I'm still having issues with his back-to-back wildcat calls last week. Coughlin gets a vote for czar. Getting up in years for the rigors of coaching. HC - Cowher? Cowher is not leaving the booth for anything. name the great coaches who never had a pro bowl QB ? it'll be a very short list. Joe Gibbs had an ability to win with several different QBs in Washington. Yet think Rypien made the Pro Bowl the year they beat us in the Super Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat. Get real- the wide receivers are not good and too many defenders in the backfield. Taylor isn't Peyton Manning, but he isn't asked to be. Add some WR's, OLs and a coach who has a real defensive pedigree instead of a mythical one, and you'll be getting somewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Every coach in the history of the NFL has been evaluated by their record. True enough. But good coaches with bad players don't win very much. Marv Levy was a loser in KC but a winner in Buffalo. Bill Belichick was a loser in Cleveland but a winner in New England. I wish the Kraft family thought like you, evaluated Belichick on his losing record, and never hired him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Get real- the wide receivers are not good and too many defenders in the backfield. Taylor isn't Peyton Manning, but he isn't asked to be. Add some WR's, OLs and a coach who has a real defensive pedigree instead of a mythical one, and you'll be getting somewhere do NOT attempt to put this on the OL. look into the stats: taylor has the longest time holding the ball pre-pass, and also the most sacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Get real- the wide receivers are not good and too many defenders in the backfield. Taylor isn't Peyton Manning, but he isn't asked to be. Add some WR's, OLs and a coach who has a real defensive pedigree instead of a mythical one, and you'll be getting somewhere Nah. Our OL is top 5 in the NFL and the bad WR's are getting open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 I truly hate saying this but I think Ryan will be here next year along with Whaley. The only change they may make is drafting a qb and/or signing a veteran qb and declaring an open qb competition. They'll let EJ go and maybe try to rework Tyrods contract imo. They will cite the injury excuse and the need for f'n continuity one more time. Unfortunately enough fans will buy off on this complete pile of dung. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpunkysSD Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Jim Schwartz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Jim Schwartz Obvious answer since he showed how good of a HC he was with the Lions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Obvious answer since he showed how good of a HC he was with the Lions. Schwartz would be fine. Lets see how the last 4 games go and go from there. They play 16 games, not 12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Obvious answer since he showed how good of a HC he was with the Lions. Didn't he take over the worst team in NFL history and get them to the playoffs in 3 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 If Rex would be fired I'd hope the Bills would take a long look at Cowboys Special Teams coach Rich Bisaccia. I firmly believe he's the next John Harbaugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Didn't he take over the worst team in NFL history and get them to the playoffs in 3 years? He did and credit to him for it. Overall he was 29-51. Terrible record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 He did and credit to him for it. Overall he was 29-51. Terrible record. 0-16 to 10-6 in 3 years is a huge feat, IMO. Would say he's one of those coaches where overall record doesn't tell the whole story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 0-16 to 10-6 in 3 years is a huge feat, IMO. Would say he's one of those coaches where overall record doesn't tell the whole story. So what would you say is the story after the turnaround because he could not sustain it. IIRC, he was known for having undisciplined teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsoldier54 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 I'll take anyone but Rex at this point. Just get him and his mess of a brother the hell out of Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 The thing that frustrates me the most about Rex is his complete refusal to actually acknowledge failures. Sure, he makes blanket statements about "not getting it done" but he coddles TT like he never makes a mistake and shoulder shrugs when asked questions like why he can't beat anyone with a winning record. This team shows no accountability for it's shortcomings and limps across the finish line in blowout losses without even putting up a fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 I'll take anyone but Rex at this point. Just get him and his mess of a brother the hell out of Buffalo. Hank Bullough? Kay Stephenson? Jauron? Chan? How about anyone of that caliber? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Gary Patterson, David Shaw, Brian Kelly, Chris Peterson, Brett Beliema, PJ Fleck Whatever else is in the prospectus for the new coach the Bills hire when they finally rid themselves of the atrocious Rex, he should be someone who would wear well for at least ten years, someone who is personally on an even keel, which is why I'd be intrigued by Shaw and Peterson. I don't think Kelly has the temperament for the pros -- he's even a little too wired for college. The other two guys I'm not up on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 If some great HC came out of retirement to coach the Bills, I'd be all in favor of firing Rex. But should we fire Rex to gamble on another retread with a mixed resume? Or some DC, OC, or college coach who's never been a head coach in the NFL? I'm not convinced. Most of the names suggested so far either (1) don't inspire much hope for a better result, or (2) aren't realistic. What other choices are there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Give Wade another shot. He would do very well with the defensive personnel that the Bills have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greybeard Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Football is a brutal contact sport. In order to get the most out of your players they have to have a coach that can convince them to go out be physical. So I would hire Ted Nolan. He always gets the most out of his players. I don't think it matters in the least whether he knows football or not. Then I would go out and hire two ex-head coach's as the OC and DC. Guys that were great as coordinators but didn't make it as head coaches. A guy like Wade Philips for the D, and at the moment no one in particular for the Offense but I am sure others can come up with some good names. Then I would invert the pay scale by not paying the head coach the most. No offense to Ted but successful coordinators should be payed the most. You don't put water in your beer, so why would you dilute the ability of a good coordinator by filling him with the duties of a head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Its Rex year 3 coming up....and I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 I'll take anyone but Rex at this point. Just get him and his mess of a brother the hell out of Buffalo. Poops McGee? I wasn't a fan of his man management skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Football is a brutal contact sport. In order to get the most out of your players they have to have a coach that can convince them to go out be physical. So I would hire Ted Nolan. He always gets the most out of his players. I don't think it matters in the least whether he knows football or not. Then I would go out and hire two ex-head coach's as the OC and DC. Guys that were great as coordinators but didn't make it as head coaches. A guy like Wade Philips for the D, and at the moment no one in particular for the Offense but I am sure others can come up with some good names. Then I would invert the pay scale by not paying the head coach the most. No offense to Ted but successful coordinators should be payed the most. You don't put water in your beer, so why would you dilute the ability of a good coordinator by filling him with the duties of a head coach. You forgot to use the 'sarcasm' font. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 If Rex would be fired I'd hope the Bills would take a long look at Cowboys Special Teams coach Rich Bisaccia. I firmly believe he's the next John Harbaugh. Interesting, why do say this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Top coaching candidates 2017 http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000753299/article/josh-mcdaniels-teryl-austin-top-coaching-candidates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 IF not Rex then Wade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 0-16 to 10-6 in 3 years is a huge feat, IMO. Would say he's one of those coaches where overall record doesn't tell the whole story. Jmc = "anything is better" "no matter what" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Kris Richard the Seahawks DC.I'm for Keith Richards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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