Liberal Protests

[KD in CA]

48 minutes ago, Jaraxxus said:

Can't really have an honest conversation with people on the left or in this movement, because they begin from a point of dishonesty.

 

 

It's been hard to find an honest conversation with anyone on the left since Bush v Gore.  It's been literally impossible since Trump was elected. 

[Magox]

Something that unites us all

 

 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

1 minute ago, Tiberius said:

Was I wrong in 2018? Where are you Paul Ryan???

Well, I wasn't wrong on 2018 either.  It's a pretty common happenstance in the world of politics, sonny boy.

 

I'll acknowledge the blue wave when it happens.  I am 100% convinced that there are enough voters who were outraged by Trump's election who will cast a vote for their own version of a serial sexual abuser, plagarizer, shake down artist, bully, racist and fondler and celebrate the accomplishment.  It'll be a disappointment,  but I'll laugh my ass off at the stunning display of hypocrisy.  Hell, I'm laughing now watching the tired old man campaign. 

 

[reddogblitz]

1 minute ago, Motorin' said:

 

Mob violence to rip down statues isn't the way to deal with it. But let's be clear, many of these Confederate statues were erected by Segregationist states during Jim Crow as a symbol of white rule. Placed in the center of town squares and at capital buildings during Segregation, they were symbols of power. White power over black lives. That's the history of many of these statues. 

 

 

 

FDR was on hand for the dedication and unveiling of the statue or Robert E Lee in Robert E Lee Park in Dallas in 1936 and even made a speech.

 

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/2017/09/06/flashback-fdr-unveiled-robert-e-lee-statue-without-controversy-in-1936/

 

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On June 12, 1936, President Franklin Delano Roosevelt was on hand to honor the "warriors in the lost cause of the Confederacy" by unveiling the statue of Robert E. Lee in Dallas' Lee Park. The following day, The Dallas Morning News published a recap of the event, detailing FDR's speech and other parts of the gathering. 

 

This was before the big switheroo I guess.

[Magox]

Thought Control

#Orwellian

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

Don't remind them that Frederick Douglas was a Republican.................that statue may "have to go"

 

 

 

PS: notice that they put little blue x's on the floor,  so our 'leaders' knew where to stand...........?

 

 

 

 

 

[KD in CA]

4 minutes ago, Jaraxxus said:

 

I have a couple progressive friends that I talk to honestly and openly on the regular. We love each other, but hate each other's politics, and that's OK.

 

 

Same here....until a few years ago.   Actually there's still one buddy I can talk to honestly, but the rest have all gone off the deep end.   And I'm far from right wing....pretty much liberal on most/all social issues but that's not good enough for today's mob.

[billsfan1959]

2 minutes ago, Magox said:

Thought Control

#Orwellian

 

 

 

WTF?

[bdutton]

27 minutes ago, Jaraxxus said:

Alternative:

 

How about instead of defunding the police, we just stop patrolling the cities? Cordon them off and leave them to themselves.

 

 

Then send in Snake Plissken to rescue the President.

[Buffalo_Gal]

3 minutes ago, Magox said:

Thought Control

#Orwellian

 

 

Follow-up (just now)
 

 

 

[SectionC3]

19 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

And the people's President should ride in a convertible. 

 

What a &^%$ing moron. 

 

Andrew Jackson is the President who made the White House more accessible to the public, right?  And Donald Trump styles himself after Andrew Jackson, right? 

[BillsFanNC]

7 minutes ago, Magox said:

Something that unites us all

 

 

Both speakers spraying the same mic with respiratory droplets and aerosols, the first with an improperly worn mask and the next actually removing her mask. But shaming for that kind of behavior is so 10 days ago.

[bilzfancy]

Liberals, most, not all, are following the Rules for Radicals to a T.

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[The Poojer]

I lived in Richmond for 25 years and Monument Ave was one of the most beautiful avenue's i'd ever seen.  I'm not a native southerner so to me they were statues that were part of the history of the south.  I personally never glorified it.  I understand that a lot of people feel very strongly on both sides of the confederate issue.  I always thought of Monument Ave as an outdoor museum.  It's a damn shame because the statues really were aesthetically pleasing to look at as statues.

 

1 hour ago, billsfan1959 said:

 

Right on the outside review. It should always happen.

 

As for the issue of confederate statues, I am somewhat conflicted. I am not a big fan of erasing history and I feel it is a slippery slope. I also recognize that we don't want to glorify something as horrific as slavery. I think distinctions can be made. There are statues and monuments that were erected specifically to endorse white supremacy and the inferiority of the black race. I have no problem doing away with those because of the intent behind their construction. I am not a fan of eradicating statues/monuments/etc. of people that were created to honor their contributions to this country, simply because they also held a belief we might find reprehensible today, but was not that uncommon in their time. Lots of honest dialogue on that issue.

[Uncle Joe]

1 hour ago, bilzfancy said:

If you know civil war history then you know it really wasn't fought over slavery. If we're to erase anyone who had anything to do with slavery then we'll lose George Washington, Jefferson etc.

I was thinking about what slavery has probably built - the pyramids, the Great Wall of China, The Roman Coliseum etc.
To be consistent is there any discussion of tearing these down? 

[bilzfancy]

13 minutes ago, Uncle Joe said:

I was thinking about what slavery has probably built - the pyramids, the Great Wall of China, The Roman Coliseum etc.
To be consistent is there any discussion of tearing these down? 

Very good point

[Boatdrinks]

49 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Don't remind them that Frederick Douglas was a Republican.................that statue may "have to go"

 

 

 

PS: notice that they put little blue x's on the floor,  so our 'leaders' knew where to stand...........?

 

 

 

 

 

Hmmmmmm. Seems suspiciously like a photo op..

8 minutes ago, bilzfancy said:

Very good point

Yep. America didn’t invent slavery. It was around for centuries. 

[Hedge]

2 hours ago, Magox said:

More pandering at the expense of safety.

 

 

 

In the areas that have been hit, even just keeping budgets flat is effectively a cut. Law Enforcement agency property that has been destroyed by rioters (ex. cruisers) will need to be replaced. Any funds used for replacement will have to be diverted from other internal LE budgetary priorities. 

[Kevbeau]

1 hour ago, Magox said:

Something that unites us all

 

 

He’s like a pro wrestling heel.

[Boatdrinks]

1 minute ago, Hedge said:

 

In the areas that have been hit, even just keeping budgets flat is effectively a cut. Law Enforcement agency property that has been destroyed by rioters (ex. cruisers) will need to be replaced. Any funds used for replacement will have to be diverted from other internal LE budgetary priorities. 

The insanity continues 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

49 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

Andrew Jackson is the President who made the White House more accessible to the public, right?  And Donald Trump styles himself after Andrew Jackson, right? 

Holy cow C3, this is a check-mate point. 

 

The President should open the doors and the DC mayor was spot on and not at all playing her supporters for chumps. 

 

Don't sleep on the convertible idea either. Some presidents respected JFK and you may not know it, but he loved driving around with his top down. 

[Deranged Rhino]

4 minutes ago, Hedge said:

 

In the areas that have been hit, even just keeping budgets flat is effectively a cut. Law Enforcement agency property that has been destroyed by rioters (ex. cruisers) will need to be replaced. Any funds used for replacement will have to be diverted from other internal LE budgetary priorities. 

 

Plus, per friends at the LAPD, the first thing they'll cut is training.

 

... And somehow less police training doesn't seem like a good solution to the actual issues which do need remedying. 

[Doc]

5 hours ago, Tiberius said:

James N. Miller, a former undersecretary of defense for policy, announced his resignation from the Science Defense Board in the pages of The Post and upbraided Esper:

 

As a concerned citizen, and as a former senior defense official who cares deeply about the military, I urge you to consider closely both your future actions and your future words. For example, some could interpret literally your suggestion to the nation’s governors Monday that they need to “dominate the battlespace.” I cannot believe that you see the United States as a “battlespace,” or that you believe our citizens must be “dominated.” Such language sends an extremely dangerous signal.

 

Again?  What is this, Steinbrenner and Martin?

[IDBillzFan]

2 hours ago, Margarita said:

Effective? Yeah I'll say it was effective....effective at pissing off a ton of Christian folks who see through this blatant attempt to pander to evangelicals with this phoney display of piety...Please.

 

In all fairness, most genuine Christians have never considered Trump to be a Christian. He certainly doesn't behave in a Christ-like manner, and it didn't help when he said his favorite book in the Bible was "Two Corinthians." 

 

Do you remember Bill Clinton solemnly walking the beaches of Normandy, suddenly finding a small pile of stones, and arranging them in the shape of the cross while cameras were rolling?

 

I'm surprise the rocks didn't bust into flames.

 

 

 

Presidents do this stupid schitt. They just do. No one is going to remember this in two weeks except probably Jennifer Rubin and Jim Acosta.

[TakeYouToTasker]

[B-Man]

16 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

Do you remember Bill Clinton solemnly walking the beaches of Normandy, suddenly finding a small pile of stones, and arranging them in the shape of the cross while cameras were rolling?

 

 

 

Also the rocks had been placed there on the beach...........just for Clinton.

 

 

 

 

It's just buildings/property right ?.........no big deal.

 

 

 

GOP REPS SAY IT’S TIME TO DOUBLE FEDERAL JAIL TERM FOR RIOTING: Rep. Ted Budd and Rep. Dan Bishop, both North Carolina Republicans, introduced a bill today doubling the fine from five to 10 years in federal prison.

 

 

 

 

Edited June 4, 2020 by B-Man

[Wacka]

4 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

I don't see any laughing. ?‍♂️

Lots of "stay home" responses. Hey, that is what we were told for the covid "crisis," same should apply here.


 

 

The old I'll hold my breath until I pass out. Thing is you start breathing when you do.?

[Boatdrinks]

Just now, B-Man said:

 

Also the rocks had been placed there on the beach...........just for Clinton.

 

 

 

 

It's just buildings/property right ?.........no big deal.

 

 

 

GOP REPS SAY IT’S TIME TO DOUBLE FEDERAL JAIL TERM FOR RIOTING: Rep. Ted Budd and Rep. Dan Bishop, both North Carolina Republicans, introduced a bill today doubling the fine from five to 10 years in federal prison.

 

62Posted 

Now this is something we could all get behind. 

[muppy]

1 hour ago, bilzfancy said:

A better one is Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction

lol okay fair enough..music appreciation is subjective. The youtube I posted spoke about teaching children right from wrong amongst other things. Good moral values  aren't mutually exclusive I think people need to try to hear both sides of an perspective to be fully aware and cognizant of what needs to change.

[Foxx]

5 hours ago, Warren Zevon said:

 

According to the CDC definition of tear gas, tear gas was used - but does the type of gas really matter when there is ample video evidence of the military/police clearing out protesters by force so Trump could go to the outside of a church?

the liberal in you should know that words have meaning and their usage matters. after all, words are just as harmful as physical actions, right?

[Uncle Joe]

42 minutes ago, Margarita said:

lol okay fair enough..music appreciation is subjective. The youtube I posted spoke about teaching children right from wrong amongst other things. Good moral values  aren't mutually exclusive I think people need to try to hear both sides of an perspective to be fully aware and cognizant of what needs to change.

I think his point is some of us Boomers were young once have seen or heard more than 1 riot or protest song.

[fansince88]

6 hours ago, Warren Zevon said:

 

According to the CDC definition of tear gas, tear gas was used - but does the type of gas really matter when there is ample video evidence of the military/police clearing out protesters by force so Trump could go to the outside of a church?

Let me make a suggestion for you. Go stand in both and report back. Bet you change your tune. I dont think you are in the know just yet that there is a difference. 

[B-Man]

 

 

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[Foxx]

59 minutes ago, Margarita said:

lol okay fair enough..music appreciation is subjective. The youtube I posted spoke about teaching children right from wrong amongst other things. Good moral values  aren't mutually exclusive I think people need to try to hear both sides of an perspective to be fully aware and cognizant of what needs to change.

I'd be careful what you wish for if I were you. if morals and knowing right from wrong are to be taught again on a vigorous basis, the left will go away within a generation. guaranteed.

[Wacka]

5 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

The "food ghettos" are because the stores are  being ripped off  by the residents of the ghettos.  Look up FIGMOS  on the east side of Buffalo. An African American store owner  had to close after less than a year because if the massive theft from his store. 

FIGMOS- Finally I Got My Own Supermarket.

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[OldTimeAFLGuy]

15 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

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...MANY more to follow.....SMH..........

Neighborhood out of gas after Speedway on Lake Avenue closes following looting

 

Mary Chao, Rochester Democrat and Chronicle Published 9:53 a.m. ET June 4, 2020 | Updated 12:00 p.m. ET June 4, 2020

 

Cars pulling into the Speedway at 440 Lake Ave. for gas are finding only shattered glass and a boarded-up store and pumps. 

 

For 55 years, there has been a station at the site in this  northwest city neighborhood. But after the looting on Saturday night into early Sunday morning, landlord David Pelusio said he received a call from Speedway LLC Tuesday that it plans to permanently shut down the station.

A Speedway corporate spokesperson declined to comment when called.

 

https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2020/06/04/speedway-lake-avenue-rochester-closing-after-being-looted/3133184001/

 

 

 

 

Edited June 5, 2020 by OldTimeAFLGuy

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[KD in CA]

25 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

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Next up.....left wing blogs whine about "food deserts" in black neighborhoods.

 

 

 

Edited June 4, 2020 by KD in CA

[Reality Check]

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/2-nypd-cops-shot-1-stabbed-brooklyn-police-brutality-riots-go-global