YoloinOhio Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 All avenues are depressing. Teams don't give up on Qbs they have hope for. Bring in a Locker type, have a fair competition with EJ, and hope one steps up. Both have talent and are still young. with a guy like Locker, there could be some hope that because he was not drafted by the current HC, they are not interested in giving him an extension and he wants his own guy. I think he's a decent option. None are great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 with a guy like Locker, there could be some hope that because he was not drafted by the current HC, they are not interested in giving him an extension and he wants his own guy. I think he's a decent option. None are great. I liked Locker coming out of college. He has a lot of the same problems as EJ. Plus, he made be made out of glass. But I'd rather have him than a guy like Sanchez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 (edited) with a guy like Locker, there could be some hope that because he was not drafted by the current HC, they are not interested in giving him an extension and he wants his own guy. I think he's a decent option. None are great. Jake Locker is the guy I want most because he has the most upside. Matt Moore is the guy we need most because he is the ideal backup outside of maybe Fitzpatrick and Hoyer (not sure I want Hoyer right now because I think his head is spinning and I think Moore is better). If Manuel and Locker can be our future, we'll get a solid backup out of one of them and perhaps a starter if we get lucky. The other will eventually fall off. Moore can be our guy that Fitz should have been for a few years here. I still wish we had him. It would not surprise me if we somehow got Ben Roethlisberger or Manning. Pittsburgh would be crazy to trade Big Ben, but I think Manuel, 2016 1st and a 2015 3rd might be enough. They are surprisingly in a rebuilding state and a lot of people do not realize it. edit. hmmph, I would be happy with a Roethlisberger/Locker duo. Edited February 14, 2015 by jboyst62 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Kolb = Orton = McCown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Kolb = Orton = McCown +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Apps Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 To me Matt Moore would the perfect option, great backup and has been a decent starter when he has started. After that I guess Mallett or Locker, since they are both kinda unproven. Sanchez and McCown should the last, sesperate options Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Nails Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 I don't see a McCown signing as the end of the line. I think it would be an early safety net in case something better doesn't come along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Kolb = Orton = McCown Orton>EJ>McCown=Kolb imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog69 Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Kolb = Orton = McCown Kolb was damaged goods. Orton was already retired and should have stayed that way. McCown atleast wants to play and can stand up without hurting himself. He's still not good, but in my opinion, better than the other two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Bills fans love to waste time debating about mediocre QBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Bills fans love to waste time debating about mediocre QBs. It's a Bills message board. It's like you going to Legoland and looking around complaining, "Boy, kids sure do love wasting time looking at Legos." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Bills fans love to waste time debating about mediocre QBs. Still rtflmao in regards to the original post. Could that tweet possibly be more vague Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 I don't see a McCown signing as the end of the line. I think it would be an early safety net in case something better doesn't come along. Agreed. If he comes in, I'd hope they get at least another FA to compete and cut one in camp. BTW, I don't get the infatuation some have for Mallett. He has a strong arm but he's a complete statue and not tailored in the least for Roman's system. Plus, NE* did nothing to try and retain him. In a word, he's a stiff. But, then again, that describes most of the options out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Bills fans love to waste time debating about mediocre QBs. Yes, let's waste time debating about which 10-15 quality starters won't be available to come here. Much more productive use of time and energy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICanSleepWhenI'mDead Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 If you want options not talked about: 1. Our LBs sucked for years, but no more. Wonder who we could get in trade for Kiko? . . . I guess we have the answer - - too bad it wasn't a decent QB rather than a very good RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I guess we have the answer - - too bad it wasn't a decent QB rather than a very good RB. Nice one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Kolb = Orton = McCown +1 +1 Orton>EJ>McCown=Kolb imo Orton is gone and proved what he is. a .500 QB who can't get er done. Can you please move on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Bring in Moore and trade our 3rd for Nassib. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Rumor I saw on Twitter last night (Chris Trapasso) said the Bills' FA QB "list" is Locker, Sanchez, and Moore -- not necessarily in that order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Bring in Moore and trade our 3rd for Nassib.Why? Marrone quit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Orton>EJ>McCown=Kolb imo +1 Orton is gone and proved what he is. a .500 QB who can't get er done. Can you please move on? that was an older post from Feb 16 when we were looking at McCown. just stating that McCown isn't even as good as EJ let alone Orton who like you said isn't even that great. glad we didn't get him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Why? Marrone quit. I like Nassib. Always have. He's smart and athletic. I think he'd be a really good fit in Roman's system. I know it was only preseason, but he improved greatly from year one to year two. The only QB I'm sold on in this draft is Winston and that isn't happening. Bring him in, let him compete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricojes Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 So is this the beginning of the "Bills to go in little-talked-about direction at QB" rumor? Does McCoy remain a Bill or is he trade bait for a QB? I think he stays, but it would be interesting if they were gauging interest... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bisonbrigade Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Bills trade a 5th round pick for Kurt Cousins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Rumor I saw on Twitter last night (Chris Trapasso) said the Bills' FA QB "list" is Locker, Sanchez, and Moore -- not necessarily in that order.lots of media pushing hoyer but I heard a few times even last year the bills do not think much of him. I have a feeling they sign Locker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Bills trade a 5th round pick for Kurt Cousins Any relation to Kirk Cousins or Kurt Warner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Ricky Ray. He's old but the CFL thing worked for us once upon a time. I wouldn't be shocked if they bring all sorts of guys into camp. A CFL legend like Ray perhaps, a draft pick, a free agent, E.J. and see how the pile sorts itself out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 lots of media pushing hoyer but I heard a few times even last year the bills do not think much of him. I have a feeling they sign Locker. Stuff like that makes me laugh. What has Hoyer proven? The bills are going to upgrade by going with an older player with worse stats than EJ? Bills trade a 5th round pick for Kurt Cousins The hype of Cousins won't die! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 The trade yesterday nicely clarifies what that little talked about QB direction is! It's the "screw the QB position entirely" direction...we are going to run the ball all day long, manage games, eliminate turnovers entirely, and throw short passes only when we have to...and let our D do the winning for us. The Bills are actually going to engage in an interesting experiment this year. Can you take a top 3 Defense and a fairly talented offense devoid of QB talent, play cautiously and conservatively...and do anything with it? We'll find out. A marginal improvement at the QB position over Orton might be just enough (with the other changes and more on the way) to get us into the playoffs as a wild card. More than that, like winning that playoff game, is unlikely without a QB. And there really isn't much out there, is there? After this playoff drought, I'll take the playoff appearance and we'll see what happens after that. That is the highest realistic goal we can shoot for this fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Ricky Ray. He's old but the CFL thing worked for us once upon a time. I wouldn't be shocked if they bring all sorts of guys into camp. A CFL legend like Ray perhaps, a draft pick, a free agent, E.J. and see how the pile sorts itself out. There are better CFL QB's right now then Ricky Ray He already had a tryout with the Jets years ago and couldnt make the team CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Jake Locker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 So is this the beginning of the "Bills to go in little-talked-about direction at QB" rumor? Does McCoy remain a Bill or is he trade bait for a QB? I think he stays, but it would be interesting if they were gauging interest... Not sure who they would be trading with for a QB. Trying to think of teams that would trade for McCoy that have a QB. I would love to trade for Romo, but I don't see that happening, even if we threw in EJ. Rivers? Eli? Can't see any of those teams giving up a QB for Shady. I think Shady is here to stay, which is cool, but I would think you could get one of the top FA RB's for less than his current contract.. The trade yesterday nicely clarifies what that little talked about QB direction is! It's the "screw the QB position entirely" direction...we are going to run the ball all day long, manage games, eliminate turnovers entirely, and throw short passes only when we have to...and let our D do the winning for us. The Bills are actually going to engage in an interesting experiment this year. Can you take a top 3 Defense and a fairly talented offense devoid of QB talent, play cautiously and conservatively...and do anything with it? We'll find out. A marginal improvement at the QB position over Orton might be just enough (with the other changes and more on the way) to get us into the playoffs as a wild card. More than that, like winning that playoff game, is unlikely without a QB. And there really isn't much out there, is there? After this playoff drought, I'll take the playoff appearance and we'll see what happens after that. That is the highest realistic goal we can shoot for this fall. I think you are correct. The sports media is unbearable: (1) the Bills traded for Watkins so they don't have a 1st rounder and can't get a QB: Reality: there is no QB worth taking this year when we have our 1st round pick, and no one worth trading up for; (2) McCoy eliminates ability to get a QB in FA: Reality: the Bills are still well under the cap, and there is no "top" FA QB available this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I think you are correct. The sports media is unbearable: (1) the Bills traded for Watkins so they don't have a 1st rounder and can't get a QB: Reality: there is no QB worth taking this year when we have our 1st round pick, and no one worth trading up for; (2) McCoy eliminates ability to get a QB in FA: Reality: the Bills are still well under the cap, and there is no "top" FA QB available this year. Dead wrong. The Bills are still more than 20M under the cap. They will sign a QB like Locker, Moore, or (shudder) Sanchez in FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Dead wrong. The Bills are still more than 20M under the cap. They will sign a QB like Locker, Moore, or (shudder) Sanchez in FA. Who is dead wrong? The Media? Or RyanC883? I think you may have misread what he wrote. He agrees we are well under cap and still have some flexibility to make moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 McCoy is an attractive name. perhaps if we find a really stupid team we could trade him for a QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Just my opinion, they need to make a deal for a QB before FA if they are going to. This team becomes a lot more attractive to other players if we have a respectable option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 With the addition of Shady, and already having Watkins, Woods, and Goodwin, as well as the kind of coach Roman is, the Bills will be looking for the guy that is the best play action ball handler who can through accurately downfield. EJ is a great ball handler already but his accuracy downfield is erratic, although pretty good in college and he has a strong arm. Hoyer is pretty good with the ball but not a great arm. Not sure how good Locker is with the ball and he's inaccurate but strong arm. Moore is good with the ball and decent downfield. He's still the best bet IMO. This helps EJ out a lot though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwight in philly Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 So is this the beginning of the "Bills to go in little-talked-about direction at QB" rumor? Does McCoy remain a Bill or is he trade bait for a QB? I think he stays, but it would be interesting if they were gauging interest... as long as their is a bills message board , here for us participants to engage in speculation, why not mccoy for big ben? mccoy is a pennsylyvania kid.. went to pitt.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gladiator Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I think the Bills should take Peyton Manning and his expensive contract off of Denver Broncos hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I think the Bills should take Peyton Manning and his expensive contract off of Denver Broncos hands Full disclosure, I'm almost 100% sure your trolling right now, but I'll take the bait. In exchange for what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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