Miyagi-Do Karate Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Dude ! I have found i care less about politics and more about what the team is doing today . The on the field in the locker room heart of the matter stuff. Also guys who can break down the game well. I think we owe gratitude to the whole gambit of reporting actually. ps Rodak is not reporting. still not sure what that is going over there at espn either ? Its the locals that do the best work who is Ray Bentley and why is working on Bills games? Interesting re Rodak. Would seem weird to transfer or cut him with only a few days till the start of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Interesting re Rodak. Would seem weird to transfer or cut him with only a few days till the start of the season. We have a plan. Trust us .Good catch though JR. You may well find an opportunity in this field yourself . keep up the good work Joe B is one of my top homer favorites. Honest fellow. Fairburn is comfort to read also. Mark G I like too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Lori Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Matthew Fairburn of the Syracuse paper has been a great edition. Fair and really active. I like Joe B and Gaughn. Keep the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 I like the local guys but there is a benefit to someone who knows the NFL well, can be objective on the team. I like Pat Kirwan on Movin the Chains. He has an in depth knowledge of the team, can speak to their chances, and does not automatically take sides positively or negatively against the team like most national media. Anyway, Sal is a good guy, but i like hearing these guys as he does not regurgitate the rest of the national media. I also like Polian's take as he has a soft spot for the Bills but is still objective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDRupp Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Interested in which jounalists covering the Bills you guys think do a good job covering the team. My picks are Sal, Wawrow and Buscaglia. Joe B, Wawrow, Sal, and Gaughn in that order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Each time Joe B answers a question in one of his segments on WGR, I cringe. For those saying he has a bright future nationally, I strongly disagree. He has a very difficult time explaining his observations. His analysis is usually limited to good or bad, rarely why. Most of the time he will say something along the lines of, "player x is developing well" but he absolutely NEVER goes into why or how that is. The people who post in here that believe Joe B has a strong work ethic have heard that "fact" spoken on air or notice his suit and tie, but I bet few could cite actually situations where he seemed to have a real unique take or observation on a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 I have satellite and I learn so much more about football and The Bills then I ever have on wgr. They take a couple calls per day on Buffalo, Ross Tucker and Polian are my favorites. Whenever Carucci comes on I switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Interested in which jounalists covering the Bills you guys think do a good job covering the team. My picks are Sal, Wawrow and Buscaglia. Professional journalists, I think you got it. I have never read a piece, thought "wow, what an uninformed exaggerated piece of baloney" and then looked up to see one of those bylines. The season is young, but hopefully I won't I like the local guys but there is a benefit to someone who knows the NFL well, can be objective on the team. I like Pat Kirwan on Movin the Chains. He has an in depth knowledge of the team, can speak to their chances, and does not automatically take sides positively or negatively against the team like most national media. Anyway, Sal is a good guy, but i like hearing these guys as he does not regurgitate the rest of the national media. I also like Polian's take as he has a soft spot for the Bills but is still objective. I really like Kirwan's book "Take your eye off the ball". I recall having thought some of his media analysis was shallow or under-informed but unfortunately I can't give examples at the moment. Perhaps I do him wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted September 3, 2014 Author Share Posted September 3, 2014 Each time Joe B answers a question in one of his segments on WGR, I cringe. For those saying he has a bright future nationally, I strongly disagree. He has a very difficult time explaining his observations. His analysis is usually limited to good or bad, rarely why. Most of the time he will say something along the lines of, "player x is developing well" but he absolutely NEVER goes into why or how that is. The people who post in here that believe Joe B has a strong work ethic have heard that "fact" spoken on air or notice his suit and tie, but I bet few could cite actually situations where he seemed to have a real unique take or observation on a player. I formed that opinion from several interviews. The interview that comes to mind presently would be his analysis on the Chris Williams signing. I thought he did a good job of explaining his opinions. He also seems to be one of the only guys around who comes off as engaged and putting forth an effort to be something other than self-serving or aggressively cynical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykidsdad Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Joe B. is very good for X's and O's, watches a lot of film, and really digs into the nitty gritty. Last year his week by week positive verse negative plays for each Bill was remarkable. He is my favorite by far, and I wish he was better spoken and had more exposure, but he's a kid and will only get better (if we can keep him). I think Gaughan is a better writer and is much better spoken, and Gaughan comes with more exposure and credibility. I do think Gaughan does a good job with the bigger picture. The guys in Rochester like Sal and Catalana do well, too. And I still like Matthews on Wham1180. At the bottom of the list is Jerry Sullivan. Sully is way too negative and arrogant for me. I'm negative enough just looking at the field every Sunday. Listening to him is like sitting in a bad movie, trying to watch it anyways (since you paid the ten dollars for a ticket and popcorn), with the guy next to telling you how bad the movie is over and over again. Hey, I get it, but let me watch it. Okay, I'm an idiot and you're the enlightened critic; just shut up already! I hope Sully writes long enough to have his beloved Pats switch places with Buffalo, at least for a season or two. Brady can't play forever, right? 1. Joe Bascaglia 2. Mark Gaughan 3. The Rochester Bunch 1,000,000. Jerry Sullivan (with his hand in my popcorn) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Interested in which jounalists covering the Bills you guys think do a good job covering the team. My picks are Sal, Wawrow and Buscaglia. Joe B. I like Paul Hamilton too even though he is a Hockey guy, he doesn't pull any punches with either team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Chuck Pollack deserves mention in this group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keukasmallies Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Sully must be doing something right. He writes what he sees on the field and in the general OBD environment, NOT what he hears from the public. He appears to write his convictions and not be cowed by the general hue and cry. Can't be all bad to have at least one factual counterpoint to the optimists, can it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tisker A Tasker Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 who is Ray Bentley and why is working on Bills games? He's the acclaimed author of Darby the Dinosaur! http://www.amazon.com/Darby-Dinosaur-Shopping-With/dp/0962348104 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Sully must be doing something right. He writes what he sees on the field and in the general OBD environment, NOT what he hears from the public. He appears to write his convictions and not be cowed by the general hue and cry. Can't be all bad to have at least one factual counterpoint to the optimists, can it? Which change from week to week, like Mayfiles swirling in a summer breeze. He's the acclaimed author of Darby the Dinosaur! http://www.amazon.co...h/dp/0962348104 and not to mention, former MLB for The Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 I like JW and TG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Define "best" -- it means different things to fans, players, coaches, editors, and colleagues. Fans -- "best" means a bit of a homer (not over the top) who also provides good insight Players -- "best" means someone they can trust not to try and trap them; who do they enjoy talking to in the locker room Coaches -- "best" means not asking stupid questions about injuries and the symbolism of the team not naming the QB captain Editors -- "best" means whoever gets the most page reads/clicks/comments/re-tweets Colleagues -- "best" means everyone; these guys/gals never criticize one another Good summary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Interested in which jounalists covering the Bills you guys think do a good job covering the team. My picks are Sal, Wawrow and Buscaglia. Sal from the D&C? LOL LMAO sorry, I think Sal is not one of the best +1 for JWOW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Any votes for Rodak? jk...don't hurt me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Chuck Pollack deserves mention in this group. Good call . Bentley seems nice enough and know football but doesnt seem to know who is currently on the Bills roster or care. this has been an interesting thread . seems there is something for everyone . I had forgotten about Bob Matthews completely . Oops ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Vic Carucci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 I like the local guys but there is a benefit to someone who knows the NFL well, can be objective on the team. I like Pat Kirwan on Movin the Chains. He has an in depth knowledge of the team, can speak to their chances, and does not automatically take sides positively or negatively against the team like most national media. Anyway, Sal is a good guy, but i like hearing these guys as he does not regurgitate the rest of the national media. I also like Polian's take as he has a soft spot for the Bills but is still objective. I don't know how I forgot Kirwin in my first post. He much be my favorite. Although sometimes he sounds like a lame disc jockey with his tone. W-NNNNNNNNNNNNNNN-B-C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Yeah, but he's funny how he puts you on the hot seat when you call and asks you the GM questions, "if you want to do this, here is the implication to the cap, who you have to give up, etc." He forces fans to think, but in a respectful way so people have to think through their wish list stuff, or what happens as an implication of their decisions. You don't get that at all on most shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harv shitz Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 If you're not from the southern tier, you may not be very familiar with Chuck Pollock's work, but he is as good as anyone anywhere in the print media. I have been reading Mr. Pollocks work since 1974, and will be lost when he steps away from covering the Bills. Check out his articles on oleantimesherald.com. Always has an insightful gameday piece, a detailed post game story, as well as a gameday notebook. He also covers media day, and usually has a Bills column on Thursday. I like to listen to Shredd and Reagen when they talk Bills. I would love to see a new station challenge WGR for sports talk, or see GR make some much needed and overdue changes, notably with new afternoon talent, and the Howard Simon show could use a new spin, also. I miss Bob Gaughan and "The Coach!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Lori nice GG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Sully is still the king. I also like JW, Pollock, Carucci, and Gaughan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 The best journalist, who regularly writes about the Bills, is John Wawrow. Hands down. Sully is still the king. I also like JW, Pollock, Carucci, and Gaughan. Sully can write, but he knows squat about football. I thought he might get it after all these years, but it still isn't in his wheelhouse. He does know how to stir up controversy (real or imagined). He is a columnist, he's paid to stir up idiots. I guess he is pretty good at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Carucci coming back, I think he fits the title of this thread and saves me making a new one and getting flamed for it. Thank you. http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/bills-nfl/welcome-back-vic-carucci-20140903 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Vic Carucci was he even mentioned before the news broke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Yeah, but he's funny how he puts you on the hot seat when you call and asks you the GM questions, "if you want to do this, here is the implication to the cap, who you have to give up, etc." He forces fans to think, but in a respectful way so people have to think through their wish list stuff, or what happens as an implication of their decisions. You don't get that at all on most shows. I assume you're talking about Kirwan? If so, I agree and like him very much for that reason alone. The callers to these shows are often just a step beyond walking upright, and it's nice to hear a host encourage them to think through their knee-jerk opinions without calling them the mouth-breathers that they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted September 4, 2014 Author Share Posted September 4, 2014 was he even mentioned before the news broke? Nope. But I agree, he wins the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Lori +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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