Fezmid Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Where is the Players' Union in all of this? Is there no pressure on him to take the the highest dollar amount, even if it's from the Bills? The MLB Players' Union would never allow one of the top FA players to 'leave money on the table'. The player (and agent) would be crucified. Remember Vick was allegedly going to sign with Buffalo until the league told him to go to Philly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 What hotel is he staying at anyway ? The one at Dingens and Rossler in Cheektowaga next to the Thruway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammered a Lot Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 The one at Dingens and Rossler in Cheektowaga next to the Thruway Great choice. I helped with the total remodel job 12 years ago! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonderbread Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 There it is! BAM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRH Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 ESPNs latest With, as usual, not a shred of new reportage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 This is like picking up your prom date and she makes you wait 3 days because she's trying to get a better date. It's pretty clear he doesn't want to play here if he hasn't signed by now. What makes it more depressing is that if it falls through it's won't be because of anything the Bills did, but because we just aren't attractive enough, even if we pony up top dollar. Makes you wonder if there's anything we can do to compete for top free agents - if it's not money there aren't a lot of other factors that can quickly change. I don't think it's that simple. Prior to the start of free agency, I imagine that DOZENS of teams expressed interest in Mario Williams. I'm sure that we weren't the only scheduled visit for him this week - just the first one. But in the NFL, free agency usually moves pretty quickly. By the time his meeting with Buffalo was over on Tuesday night, many of those teams had probably moved on. Chicago got Brandon Marshall and dropped out of the bidding. Jacksonville was considering a run at him, but then they re-signed Mincey. Detroit was interested, but franchised Cliff Avril. Other teams were likely "forced" out of the race, simply because of Buffalo's large offer. The theory about Tennessee and Peyton Manning makes A LOT of sense. If another team had a legitimate offer on the table for Williams, I'm sure he would be heading out of town to visit with the coaches and see the city (like he did with us). Instead, he seems to be stalling or waiting for something to happen. The only thing that makes sense, is that he's waiting for the only other top free agent (Manning) to sign, so he can see if another team jumps in the race. Personally, I don't think Manning will be making his decision anytime soon. And Williams would be foolish to pass on this offer, leave town and take the chance that Buffalo moves on to other free agents. Then if Manning signs with Tennessee, he may be forced to take a much smaller contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonabb Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 I have it bad today... I can see the field house roof and stadium lights from my office window and Keep looking to see if there are fireworks over the stadium yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 I have this image of Ralph busting out of a box as it comes off the truck. :lol: Where is the Players' Union in all of this? Is there no pressure on him to take the the highest dollar amount, even if it's from the Bills? The MLB Players' Union would never allow one of the top FA players to 'leave money on the table'. The player (and agent) would be crucified. That's partly because there's no salary cap in baseball - the total $ amount that goes to the players is the sum total of whatever their agents negotiate. In football, the union basically gets a fixed % of total revenue, so for every extra dollar Mario gets, there's one less dollar available for someone else. I'm simplifying it a bit, but the gist is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACTOBILLSFAN Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 jw can you see in? is it full of cash? Ralph is cheap and the Bills get great rates from FedEx. He shipped himself from Detroit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammered a Lot Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Good point, or the 5000 posts saying how he is overrated and a chump and how his Fiance has a dog face if he doesn't sign Funnyest line I heard on TV (Wings) this morning. Mario girlfriend is so beautiful that see reminds one of the workers at WingsTv of Kate Middleton! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Ya gotta remember, this contract will be for the rest of his productive career. He should think long and hard about it.....just think your way into a Bills uniform...AND SOON!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonderbread Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 The one at Dingens and Rossler in Cheektowaga next to the Thruway Damn the best western? I hope he got the continental breakfast this morning! Those eggs in a bag are banging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guffalo Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 ESPNs latest Interesting there was a comment under the article that said he stayed at Jim Kellys last night. Can anyone confirm? "linkage4890 how often do Free Agents have their fiances flown in during contract negotiations in order to get a feel of the area, and then reportedly stay at the house of the legendary quarterback, just to come up and say no? there's something serious going on in his brain about this place" Coupled with Jill Kellys tweet earlier........I am sounding like one of you stalkers now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Ralph is cheap and the Bills get great rates from FedEx. He shipped himself from Detroit. Did the box have airholes or was it filled with formaldehyde? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete This Account Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 sources smources, give us names man! BTW, how do you like your coffee? in my the "Stuckey Bowl" travel mug that my wife got me for Christmas a very long time ago. good show. jw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucked Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/15/titans-owner-offers-peyton-a-contract-for-life/ If you buy into the peyton/williams connection this is good news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 If you're the Bills, how do you handle today? Mario shows up this morning and you say "Mario, you've got our best offer. We'd love for you to sign it by the end of today. If you can't do that..." a) ... we're going to have to pull the offer and move on in our efforts to make our team better. 2) ... it'll still be here for you until you sign with us or someone else. iii) ... how does another million a year sound? two million? AW COME ON! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 Wide Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Did the box have airholes or was it filled with formaldehyde? And was he insured? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Coupled with Jill Kellys tweet earlier........I am sounding like one of you stalkers now Dude, we sounded like stalkers Tuesday afternoon when we started talking about jet logs. I work with some of the most rabid UNC alumni and fans, who are known to follow the movements of 16 and 17 year old high school recruits. I mentioned the whole chartered jet thing at about 3:00pm Tuesday, and got a look like I had three heads. So while they're all sympathetic to my plight right now, and understand what's going on, I'm not sharing any more details of how closely this is being watched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 If (BIG if) he stayed at Kelly's last night, he's a Bill. Nobody would put the press on harder than Jimbo, and I'm sure his country estate would give Mario & fiancee a real taste of "country" life in the southtowns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammered a Lot Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Yellow cargo truck just pulled in to OBD. I have never seen this truck enter OBD before. Could it be filled with M.Williams jerseys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 If (BIG if) he stayed at Kelly's last night, he's a Bill. Nobody would put the press on harder than Jimbo, and I'm sure his country estate would give Mario & fiancee a real taste of "country" life in the southtowns. Or Jimbo killed the deal by putting the full court press on Mario's girl... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 http://profootballta...tract-for-life/ If you buy into the peyton/williams connection this is good news. Did Bud Adams borrow Buddy Nix' leather barn coat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 This thread is not at the top of the board! Williams may not sign here if he logs on and finds his thread is at #2 below the Peyton thread! BUMP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 http://profootballta...tract-for-life/ If you buy into the peyton/williams connection this is good news. Did Bud Adams borrow Buddy Nix' leather barn coat? Ralph IS cheap. Can't even buy his GM a jacket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammered a Lot Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 (edited) If (BIG if) he stayed at Kelly's last night, he's a Bill. Nobody would put the press on harder than Jimbo, and I'm sure his country estate would give Mario & fiancee a real taste of "country" life in the southtowns. Private hood off of Jewitt Holmwood (Rick James old house near the enterance) 5 acre lots with lots of wild life Turkeys, Deer, etc. Edited March 15, 2012 by Hammered a Lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladiebla Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 This thread is not at the top of the board! Williams may not sign here if he logs on and finds his thread is at #2 below the Peyton thread! Ugh, that's probably what is keeping the deal from getting signed. He's waiting to be moved to #1 thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Yellow cargo truck just pulled in to OBD. I have never seen this truck enter OBD before. Could it be filled with M.Williams jerseys? It isn't a moving van is it? Ralph could be pulling up stakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damj Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Here's hoping that Mario hasn't checked Twitter or found this thread. We're such stalkers it's getting borderline creepy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjmac Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 I don't think it's that simple. Prior to the start of free agency, I imagine that DOZENS of teams expressed interest in Mario Williams. I'm sure that we weren't the only scheduled visit for him this week - just the first one. But in the NFL, free agency usually moves pretty quickly. By the time his meeting with Buffalo was over on Tuesday night, many of those teams had probably moved on. Chicago got Brandon Marshall and dropped out of the bidding. Jacksonville was considering a run at him, but then they re-signed Mincey. Detroit was interested, but franchised Cliff Avril. Other teams were likely "forced" out of the race, simply because of Buffalo's large offer. The theory about Tennessee and Peyton Manning makes A LOT of sense. If another team had a legitimate offer on the table for Williams, I'm sure he would be heading out of town to visit with the coaches and see the city (like he did with us). Instead, he seems to be stalling or waiting for something to happen. The only thing that makes sense, is that he's waiting for the only other top free agent (Manning) to sign, so he can see if another team jumps in the race. Personally, I don't think Manning will be making his decision anytime soon. And Williams would be foolish to pass on this offer, leave town and take the chance that Buffalo moves on to other free agents. Then if Manning signs with Tennessee, he may be forced to take a much smaller contract. Dozens? With not even 3 dozen teams in the NFL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fires Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Interesting there was a comment under the article that said he stayed at Jim Kellys last night. Can anyone confirm? "linkage4890 how often do Free Agents have their fiances flown in during contract negotiations in order to get a feel of the area, and then reportedly stay at the house of the legendary quarterback, just to come up and say no? there's something serious going on in his brain about this place" Coupled with Jill Kellys tweet earlier........I am sounding like one of you stalkers now Saw that too.... Sort of figured Jimbo would be involved in recruiting Mario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Here's hoping that Mario hasn't checked Twitter or found this thread. We're such stalkers it's getting borderline creepy. We crossed the border long ago. wgr is cracking me up today. "If you leave me now, you'll take away the biggest part of me." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Yellow cargo truck just pulled in to OBD. I have never seen this truck enter OBD before. Could it be filled with M.Williams jerseys? Yes, but they're Mike Williams #68 jerseys being returned unsold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucked Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 http://blogs.buffalobills.com/2012/03/15/mario-back-at-facility/ Here we go. This is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 It isn't a moving van is it? Ralph could be pulling up stakes. LOL. If you sign, I will move the team to a city of your choosing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammered a Lot Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 It isn't a moving van is it? Ralph could be pulling up stakes. Yes it is, but a small one sort of like the one the Rolling Stones used to arrive in at the Ralph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwolf02 Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Or Jimbo killed the deal by putting the full court press on Mario's girl... Lol.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Saw that too.... Sort of figured Jimbo would be involved in recruiting Mario. Where the hell is Bruce? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep2evans Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 happy to see that jimbo was involved. gives the jill/chad kelly tweets a little more substance.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 http://blogs.buffalobills.com/2012/03/15/mario-back-at-facility/ Here we go. This is it. HAS to be. If he's ready to skip off to another team, WHY would he have stayed another night and WHY would he be back at OBD this morning??? I understand leverage, but KEY-RIST! He can leverage other offers from home! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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