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Knowing we have some cap space but not a ton I’d hope to bring back Daquan, AJE & Ty Johnson. Would love to add Gilman the FS from the LAC & WR Noah Brown from Houston. Be great to get Dotson back but think he’s going to get a more lucrative deal than we will offer. 

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11 hours ago, Clyde Smith said:

Darnell Savage 

Da'quan Jones 


I think Savage would be perfect in Poyer’s role, very talented guy who looks to have some potential for the next few years. The last time we picked up a DB that the Packers let go, it worked out tremendously well for us. 
 

DQ resigning is one less hole to fill on that line and there’s a lot of them. Played well when he was on the field; especially pre-London. 
 

Hollywood Brown though? No thanks. Still can’t believe Baltimore squeezed a 3rd rounder and him for a 1st that in turn turned into another trade in which we selected Elam. 

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4 hours ago, NastyNateSoldiers said:

I see most are going with the mid level signings I'm gonna take a different approach. 

 

Sign 

DE - Hunter

DT- Wilkens 

Give them deals that have min impact on the 2024 cap space . Von type deals were he counted 5.5 mil on the cap the first yr. 

 

Sign 

SS- Chinn 

FS- Stone 

 

Adding these 2 Safeties won't break the bank I believe collectively they'll get around 13 mil total per season. 

 

Projected starting D 

DE - Hunter

DT- Wilkens

DT- Oliver

DE- Groot 

 

LB- Milano

LB- Bernard

 

CB - Douglas 

CB- Benford

CB - Taron 

 

SS - Chinn

FS - Stone 

 

That's a Superbowl caliber defense use only vet min deals for bkups and the draft . 

 

On offense there's really no money to use here because I spent it on the defense but we can sign a vet Wr to compete for starting X . Use the draft to load up on WRS. Draft 2 or 3 Wrs at least and with the rest of the draft go BPA no matter the position. 

 

I'm tired of the Bills getting the usual suspects in free agency signing a bunch of 5/7 mil per yr players. I hope this yr we consolidate and get 2 big deals then go to work on cheap 1 yr deals that's what Beane strength is anyways plus he's good at drafting in the mid rds so this type of off-season is definitely douable. 

 

 

 

 


 

That’s a lot of money to that defense and if the transpires you’d hope it’s one that you can rely on just as much as Josh to get the team to the promised land.
 

Hunter and Wilkins are going to see sizable contracts put their way this window. If you’re getting both of them I think signing both Chinn and Stone would be tough as awesome as it would be. Both are still young and have proven to be valuable on the back end in certain schemes. The right fit and team probably prices them out of our margins especially with a Hunter & Wilkins acquisition. 

The trouble when you have these massive contracts on the books in both active and dead cap is that you really are only able to go after the “usual suspects”. The usual suspects they’ve grabbed the services of haven’t exactly been bad, just a combination of injuries and/or lack of use. Defensively they’ve worked out well, Von aside, it’s the offensive skill positions that have fallen short more for the team imo… The OLine ones have paid off. I’ll take them signing those usual suspects for our defense again.
 

Splash the cash or draft specifically for Josh. 

 

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Wr is so deep this year in the draft I would go Dline and secondary.  Need a saftey, Edge and both dt positions. Those are the priority.  A compliment to Cook is available for not much ok.  Those defenders should be 24-27.  Need youth an potenial imo. 

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4 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

Noah Brown or Josh Reynolds would be nice along with a 1st or 2nd round pick WR.  Would really elevate our WR group.  


Yep those are my two realistic FA WR adds, too. Who do you think pairs well with them from the draft?

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6 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

Noah Brown or Josh Reynolds would be nice along with a 1st or 2nd round pick WR.  Would really elevate our WR group.  

Josh Reynolds? The WR who dropped multiple passes in the NFC championship game? Noah Brown is intriguing but unless he wants a cheap contract I’d rather just draft a couple WRs in this loaded class

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16 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

First choices:

1. Kamren Curl

2. Darnell Mooney

 

Backup otions:

1. Julian Blackmon

2. DJ Chark

 

They will need a vet 1T as well but I haven't really looked in depth at that market.

Agree...give me Curl or Chinn @ safety and Mooney @ WR2.  That probably all we can afford. 

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Safety is pretty deep with younger guys.  Mckinney, Chinn or Blackmon would work for me.  Edge will get pricey.  Huff, Armstong long-shot Young. DT prioritize 1 tech.  Jones or Rankins. 

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FS Geno Stone

SS Jeremy Chinn
WR Darnell Mooney -or- Hollywood Brown

RB Antonio Gibson -or- Clyde Edwards-Helaire

DE AJ Epenesa
DT Daquan Jones

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25 minutes ago, Logic said:

FS Geno Stone

SS Jeremy Chinn
WR Darnell Mooney -or- Hollywood Brown

RB Antonio Gibson -or- Clyde Edwards-Helaire

DE AJ Epenesa
DT Daquan Jones

Why does everyone want to keep brining  back oft injured Jones?  He can't make it through a season.

 

I wait and see if he is available in December. Maybe we can get 2.5 months out of him when it counts.

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29 minutes ago, Mat68 said:

Safety is pretty deep with younger guys.  Mckinney, Chinn or Blackmon would work for me.  Edge will get pricey.  Huff, Armstong long-shot Young. DT prioritize 1 tech.  Jones or Rankins. 

I think Huff would be doable.

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5 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

Why does everyone want to keep brining  back oft injured Jones?  He can't make it through a season.

 

I wait and see if he is available in December. Maybe we can get 2.5 months out of him when it counts.

Amen. Same with J.P. I'd take the over 5 missed games on each. Easy money. Give me Fletcher Cox if we're hellbent on 33 yr. olds.

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33 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

Why does everyone want to keep brining  back oft injured Jones?  He can't make it through a season.

 

I wait and see if he is available in December. Maybe we can get 2.5 months out of him when it counts.

When Jones plays it frees up Oliver to be what he does best which is play one on one on a guard and make plays behind the line of scrimmage.

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Just now, The Jokeman said:

When Jones plays it frees up Oliver to be what he does best which is play one on one on a guard and make plays behind the line of scrimmage.

For maybe half a season?  We need a consistent presence there

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I can't imagine the team is really involved in any expensive free agents.  

 

They have a glaring need with a giant blinking red light on the defensive line and those can not be all filled in the draft.  They basically have to sign a minimum of 2 free agents on the defensive line...tackle or end...they just have to.

 

I would personally like to see them add another center/guard to the roster.  I really hate the idea of mcgovern at center.   

 

Although safety also has a big red light flashing I bet they are not active there until after the draft.  

 

I would like them personally to commit to the running game even more and bring in a legitimate every down back to go with Cook.  Not a yin and yang thing an every down back. They set the blueprint to build a top end running game last year and this year I hope they keep building on it.  

 

and finally of course it seems a mid level WR will be added also.  Adding a wr now frees them up in the first round to take the best player that falls into their lap (which is what you should always do in the first 2 rounds) and will not force them to feel the need to move up for a wr.  

 

I am in love with the idea of Saquan Barkley in this office I just think he would create the most incredible mismatches.  Those running plays where cook popped out of a hole last year and then it ended up being an 8 to 10 yard run might turn into 50 or 60 yard runs with Barkley's ability.  I know there is no money for him and no chance of it happening but god he is perfect for this offense.  A lineup with diggs, kincaid, shakir and barkley coupled with Allen would be a real stress to every defense.  Barkley could take those dump offs, wheel routes and screens to the house from anywhere.  Shakir and kincaid will demand coverage in the middle of the field and this would create all kinds of options for Diggs and whoever the new x wr is. 

 

anyway.  Feels like free agency must result in at least 2 to 3 defensive lineman.

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10 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

I don't mind drafting someone for depth but not seeing a starting NT year 1 in this draft.

Why not?  Mr 366lbs can start right now.  We are at the point its time to start rookies and deal with it.  

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6 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

We will use a couple lower round picks on Safety

I could see that…. But you don’t count on a lower round safety to fill in as a start during a year when you plan to content for a Super Bowl.  

4 hours ago, NeverOutNick said:

Josh Reynolds? The WR who dropped multiple passes in the NFC championship game? Noah Brown is intriguing but unless he wants a cheap contract I’d rather just draft a couple WRs in this loaded class


Yeah I don’t like that thought.  Didn’t he Bills already have a WR4 who dropped a few big passes in a big playoff game?

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Right now I'm mostly looking at Wide Receivers. I know the draft is loaded with them, but I'd rather we get some insurance from that position as not all rookie receivers are instant impact players.

 

1st target: Calvin Ridley. If we can't get him, then look at Darnell Mooney, or Marquise Brown.

 

2nd target: Van Jefferson, or Donovon Peoples-Jones, or DJ Chark. Enough of players like Trent Sherfield or Deonte Harty, let's bring in a receiver who has played in the league a few years and has real production. These are not superstars, but they are still on the younger side and they will not be too expensive. 

 

Josh Allen needs all the help he can get. Bring in a big group of receivers at training camp and let them fight it out.

 

We do need help at Safety & Defensive Tackle, and I'm sure that Beane will find us the right players we need. I'm focused on receiver.

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7 hours ago, Mark Vader said:

Right now I'm mostly looking at Wide Receivers. I know the draft is loaded with them, but I'd rather we get some insurance from that position as not all rookie receivers are instant impact players.

 

1st target: Calvin Ridley. If we can't get him, then look at Darnell Mooney, or Marquise Brown.

 

2nd target: Van Jefferson, or Donovon Peoples-Jones, or DJ Chark. Enough of players like Trent Sherfield or Deonte Harty, let's bring in a receiver who has played in the league a few years and has real production. These are not superstars, but they are still on the younger side and they will not be too expensive. 

 

Josh Allen needs all the help he can get. Bring in a big group of receivers at training camp and let them fight it out.

 

We do need help at Safety & Defensive Tackle, and I'm sure that Beane will find us the right players we need. I'm focused on receiver.


 

Ridley has barely been talked about around here. Interesting option. He’s probably getting mid level WR1 money.  Strong season with Jags.  Risk would be if he gets into off the field issues again. He’s 29.   Just saw on CBS article that Patriots plan to “swing big” for Ridley.

 

76 rec for 1016 and 8TD

 

Diggs & Ridley could both hit 1100 + with Josh.  Then add a talented rookie and we’re much better!

 

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On 3/8/2024 at 4:54 PM, GunnerBill said:

First choices:

1. Kamren Curl

2. Darnell Mooney

 

Backup otions:

1. Julian Blackmon

2. DJ Chark

 

They will need a vet 1T as well but I haven't really looked in depth at that market.

 

I think DJ Chark is more realistic than Mooney from a cost perspective.

 

On 3/9/2024 at 2:41 AM, GunnerBill said:

 

As I have said previously it depends how they really feel inside the building about Diggs. If they think they will get Diggs back to his best then I agree. If they genuinely think there are signs of decline I think they need to add a vet. 

 

Outside the organization, the opinion on Diggs and him being a WR1 or not seems to be divided.  But, if I had to bet money, I would bet that Beane and Coaches on the inside still do believe in Diggs as a WR1, at least for this next season.  They have been pretty emphatic about that belief too and Beane is not someone I have known to say things he doesn't believe.  

 

23 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Agree...give me Curl or Chinn @ safety and Mooney @ WR2.  That probably all we can afford. 

 

While I would be fine adding Mooney, like I mention above, I just think he is going to cost more than I think Beane will want to pay.  With a lot of the top tier WR's guys off the market now it is going to boost his value in FA and I think he is a safe bet to get double digits like $10M - $14M per, especially since he has that one 80+ catch season on his resume while being saddled with bad QB play his whole career.  Someone is gonna overpay based on believing he can consistently be that 70-90 catch guy in a better situation.  

 

I think someone like Curtis Samuel, DJ Chark, maybe Noah Brown (depends on what his market is as he could also surprise on what he gets) is probably more realistic targets.  Could be wrong, maybe the cap room from the higher than expected cap sways him to spend a little more in FA at say WR, but I just think Beane is seeing all those picks in the draft and knowing he can infuse some talent and youth there at WR and maybe spends more on filling some of the other holes on D which right now is kind of like swiss cheese it has so many holes and lacks depth.  

 

On offense you still got Diggs, Shakir, Kincaid, and Knox plus Cook.  So rookies don't need to relied on as heavy as say rookies that would need to start right away on defense.  So I just think Beane is gonna focus more on defense with what cap space we have to try and keep from having to rely on too many rookie starters this season. 

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46 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:


 

Ridley has barely been talked about around here. Interesting option. He’s probably getting mid level WR1 money.  Strong season with Jags.  Risk would be if he gets into off the field issues again. He’s 29.   Just saw on CBS article that Patriots plan to “swing big” for Ridley.

 

76 rec for 1016 and 8TD

 

Diggs & Ridley could both hit 1100 + with Josh.  Then add a talented rookie and we’re much better!

 

 

The reason he is barely talked about here is because there is almost no chance he will be a Buffalo Bill.  Ridley will be the highest paid WR in Free Agency as he is the top WR by a decent margin left on the market with the other guys staying put.  And because of that, he is going to get over paid quite a bit.  Good WR, but he is gonna get paid above his level because he hit the lottery when all the other guys stayed with their teams and then the cap was much bigger than expected.  

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Chinn is someone the Bills have shown interest in the past. He didn't do great in Carolina, but he was a DROY candidate(came in second place). Both Poyer and Hyde were very underrated when the Bills picked them up in free agency and look how that turned out. I think too that Beane/McDermot prefer someone with experience at this position over draft prospects. Not sure Jeremy Chinn is who they target, but there are a lot of under the radar players like this at the safety position. He could be great in our system.

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DJ Reader

Derrick Henry 

Calvin Ridley  (unlikely)

Justin Simmons

Jeremy Chinn

Darnell Savage

Curtis Samuel

Darnell Mooney

Hollywood Brown

A’Shawn Robinson


Sutton / Diontae Johnson / other WR via trade

 

a couple of the above is a nice start

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14 minutes ago, Rockinon said:

Chinn is someone the Bills have shown interest in the past. He didn't do great in Carolina, but he was a DROY candidate(came in second place). Both Poyer and Hyde were very underrated when the Bills picked them up in free agency and look how that turned out. I think too that Beane/McDermot prefer someone with experience at this position over draft prospects. Not sure Jeremy Chinn is who they target, but there are a lot of under the radar players like this at the safety position. He could be great in our system.

I think Ashtyn Davis is another one

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The first announcement I want to hear is a DaQuan Jones re-sign.

 

After that, I can wait 2-3 days and let them start looking at the bargains wanting to latch-on with a contender.

 

 

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