FireChans Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Worthy having the fastest 40 time is giving me John Ross flashbacks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 6 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: I hear you. We can do both, and twice in the first four rounds is about right. It's very doable. WR, DT, S, WR.... 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills aPHILLYate Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 1 hour ago, gonzo1105 said: I'm curious if Tez Walker can rebound. I was really high on him off of the tape and thought he was WR #4. Then his senior bowl was atrocious. Now he's testing off of the charts right now. I've been wondering how folk would feel about a combo of Mitchell/Legette and then doubling down with Walker later on. I personally would love it. I think Walker would be a steal and that would potentially be a nice WR core going forward. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboski Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 31 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: One thing is for certain. The quality of this draft at WR is like night and day from last year. Beane needs to get two quality WRs out of this draft. Yep I wouldn’t be opposed to taking one in the first and second  leggett and worthy sign me up  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Just now, Jerboski said: Yep I wouldn’t be opposed to taking one in the first and second  leggett and worthy sign me up  I don't think it will happen, but I'd be tempted to roll the dice if that was possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 16 minutes ago, FireChans said: Worthy having the fastest 40 time is giving me John Ross flashbacks. except Worthy is much better WR and displays good toughness for his size. Â 41 inch vertical too 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 32 minutes ago, TheBeaneBandit said: This would be the year to double dip and could right the wrong of the Rousseau/Basham fk up. You can't ignore the ridiculous quality and quantity of wrs this draft. If it's me, I'm drafting wr at 28 & 60. I'm telling Sean he's going to have to make do with rounds 3, 4, 5 for defense. Hopefully the 1st round wr replaces Gabe immediately and can transition to WR1. And the 2nd round guy can assume the WR2 role. Whatever cap $ we have to spend, use it on defense. 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 15 minutes ago, Trust The Process said: My top 3 wish list with pick 28  1. Worthy 2. Mitchell 3. Thomas   No thank you on Worthy at 28.  I think there is a reason Worthy wouldn’t do the field drills. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: except Worthy is much better WR and displays good toughness for his size.  41 inch vertical too Sure, I’m not making any comparison about them as prospects. Just hard to shake the feeling that the 40 will get him drafted higher than he should. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Just now, LABILLBACKER said: You can't ignore the ridiculous quality and quantity of wrs this draft. If it's me, I'm drafting wr at 28 & 60. I'm telling Sean he's going to have to make do with rounds 3, 4, 5 for defense. Hopefully the 1st round wr replaces Gabe immediately and can transition to WR1. And the 2nd round guy can assume the WR2 role. Whatever cap $ we have to spend, use it on defense. Exactly. Use what cap space we create to fill the D with bargain free agents and maybe one high level starter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 It’s frustrating that we have Allen’s arm and don’t throw downfield nearly enough.   We should be taking shots practically every drive. Go get a couple of WR’s who can make that happen 4 2 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 3 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: You can't ignore the ridiculous quality and quantity of wrs this draft. If it's me, I'm drafting wr at 28 & 60. I'm telling Sean he's going to have to make do with rounds 3, 4, 5 for defense. Hopefully the 1st round wr replaces Gabe immediately and can transition to WR1. And the 2nd round guy can assume the WR2 role. Whatever cap $ we have to spend, use it on defense.  I'd consider it as well, and to add to the point, the insane cost of veteran WR contracts also factors into that. If you can get two high level WR prospects out of this draft and have them on rookie contracts for 4-5 years, with Josh Allen throwing to them, it would make a lot of sense from a cap perspective to do it. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Thomas Jr AD Mitchell Xavier Legette Xavier Worthy Franklin   4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Just now, Warriorspikes51 said: Thomas Jr AD Mitchell Xavier Legette Xavier Worthy Franklin  My general feeling of the Combine today is Brian Thomas Jr. solidified his stock, Xavier Worthy, AD Mitchell, and Xavier Legette improved to greatly improved their stock, Troy Franklin and Keon Coleman hurt their stock. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 After watching this WR group at the combine I'm convinced Beane will select 2 WRs in this draft. Value is too good. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrW Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 4 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: No thank you on Worthy at 28.  I think there is a reason Worthy wouldn’t do the field drills.  What do you think this reason might be? Both my kids went to UT, and my son even played in the Longhorn band. Thus, I have watched every one of their games in recent seasons. And Worthy was not only fast, but won most of the fights with defenders over contested balls. Interestingly, Mel Kiper has him going to ... the Chiefs. I think he would be an excellent choice.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Just now, BillsFanForever19 said:  My general feeling of the Combine today is Brian Thomas Jr. solidified his stock, Xavier Worthy, AD Mitchell, and Xavier Legette improved to greatly improved their stock, Troy Franklin and Keon Coleman hurt their stock. Keon is just too risky for me. Feels like a boom or Kelvin Benjamin as a Bill type player 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trust The Process Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Thomas Jr AD Mitchell Xavier Legette Xavier Worthy Franklin    These are my 5 favorite WR's. I'd be thrilled to draft any one of them. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Just now, wppete said: After watching this WR group at the combine I'm convinced Beane will select 2 WRs in this draft. Value is too good. He may need to out manuever other teams. Especially in the first 3 rounds 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 31 minutes ago, FireChans said: Worthy having the fastest 40 time is giving me John Ross flashbacks. I think if John Ross didn’t get derailed by injuries he could have had a reasonable career. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Just now, Warriorspikes51 said: He may need to out manuever other teams. Especially in the first 3 rounds They're all going to be gone by the 3rd round. After watching today, we won't have the luxury to wait till the 4th round to get our 2nd wr. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Keon is just too risky for me. Feels like a boom or Kelvin Benjamin as a Bill type player  The good news here is it's pretty much a guarantee that we'll get one of Brian Thomas Jr., AD Mitchell, Xavier Legette, or Xavier Worthy and there's reason to be excited about all of them. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trust The Process Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 I want us to draft a receiver who's a threat to score on any given play which is why I'm intrigued with Worthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills6969 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Worthy Thomas Jr Coleman Tez Walker Franklin  id take anyone of those 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Adonai Mitchell Thomas Jr McConkey Franklin Legette Malachi Corley im 2nd 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 10 minutes ago, BBFL said: I think if John Ross didn’t get derailed by injuries he could have had a reasonable career. Yeh he is absolute lightening out there but if you watch his Texas tape he gets the drops and after the chiefs game I can’t take open receivers who drop the ball anymore. I think realistically at 28 if they stay and don’t  trade up Brian Thomas and Adoni Mitchell  seem like they will be out of reach now after their 40s today. So it will most likely come down to Worthy, Mcconkey, Legette, Coleman, and possible Troy Franklin. Of those I prefer Franklin but Ladd Mcconkey can play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterStrategist Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 11 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Keon is just too risky for me. Feels like a boom or Kelvin Benjamin as a Bill type player I like Keon, think he's very similar to Pickens talent. But Worthy has been my top choice for a while, reminds me of DeSean/Zay Flowers.  Keon lacks some of the route running crispness, but he's way more fluid than Gabe.  Ideally, we see us selecting Worthy.  If he's gone, I wouldn't mind trading back to top of 2nd round (1st few picks)...Keon "might" be there still OR plenty of other very solid options.  We need to get 3 immediate impact players (starters/high level depth) at WR, DL, and S from this draft. Be nice to double down on WR (4th round, or if we tradeback possibly in 3rd), get younger in secondary and a RB2 late. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 I feel like Worthy running that fast makes me not want him based on historical data 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 58 minutes ago, bills6969 said: Beane finna draft Worthy Not in the 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 21 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: They're all going to be gone by the 3rd round. After watching today, we won't have the luxury to wait till the 4th round to get our 2nd wr.  These guys are all going to go higher than expected.  If the Bills don't get one of the better prospects by R2, they're not going to, and even that may be a stretch.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 6 hours ago, KingBoots8 said: RB 40 yard times:  Emani Bailey: 4.67, 4.61  Trey Benson: 4.39, X  Blake Corum: 4.53, 4.58  Isaiah Davis: 4.59, 4.58  Ray Davis: 4.53, 4.58  Audric Estime: 4.72, 4.72  Isaac Guerendo: 4.33, X  George Holani: 4.52, 4.53  Bucky Irving: 4.56, 4.58  Dillon Johnson: 4.68, 4.76  Jawhar Jordan: 4.56, 4.6  Dylan Laube: 4.57, 4.54  MarShawn Lloyd: 4.46, X Kendall Milton: 4.62, 4.66  Keilan Robinson: 4.42, 4.43  Cody Schrader: 4.61, 4.69  Jaden Shirden: 4.46, 4.46  Tyrone Tracy Jr: 4.49, 4.51  Kimani Vidal: 4.47, 4.46  Michael Wiley: 4.56, 4.52  Jaylen Wright: 4.44, 4.38   Side Note: Frank Gore Jr has met with the Bills and Dolphins. not running the 40 today.  Something wrong with these times. Jawhar Jordan does not look nearly that slow on tape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan2313 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 2 minutes ago, mrags said: Something wrong with these times. Jawhar Jordan does not look nearly that slow on tape.  Maybe you had it on fast forward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 47 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: No thank you on Worthy at 28.  I think there is a reason Worthy wouldn’t do the field drills.  Because he ran a 4.21.  His worked out is over.  Nothing more needs to be done on the field.  The speed and age of breakout makes Worthy a very rare and elite prospect. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 31 minutes ago, Trust The Process said: I want us to draft a receiver who's a threat to score on any given play which is why I'm intrigued with Worthy. His speed makes him a threat on every play... but the reality is he scored only 5tds on 75 rec this past season. Franklin for example scored 14 times on 81 catches.  Straight line speed doesn't necessarily convey or take the place of great route running, deceptive breaks, elusive moves in space, etc. 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 18 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: I feel like Worthy running that fast makes me not want him based on historical data Moss and Hill didnt have recorded times either. Â With Kincaid, Diggs, Cook and Shakir the short and intermediate game is covered. Â His speed is too rare to pass up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrW Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 2 minutes ago, Turk71 said: His speed makes him a threat on every play... but the reality is he scored only 5tds on 75 rec this past season. Franklin for example scored 14 times on 81 catches.  Straight line speed doesn't necessarily convey or take the place of great route running, deceptive breaks, elusive moves in space, etc.  Did you watch him play or are you just going by statistics? Just have a look at a few Longhorn games. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Marquise Goodwin was fast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 2 minutes ago, DrW said:  Did you watch him play or are you just going by statistics? Just have a look at a few Longhorn games. I have seen a few of his games. Once again, I am not advocating for or against, I am merely pointing out that for a guy who, as you say, is a threat to score on every play......he only scored 5 tds on 75 catches last season. Stats never tell the whole story, but watching more of his tape won't change those numbers... They are in the books, people can make of it whatever they like. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 6 minutes ago, Turk71 said: His speed makes him a threat on every play... but the reality is he scored only 5tds on 75 rec this past season. Franklin for example scored 14 times on 81 catches.  Straight line speed doesn't necessarily convey or take the place of great route running, deceptive breaks, elusive moves in space, etc. Nix is alot better qb than Ewers. As a Freshman Worthy scored 12 tds on 60 catches.  2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterStrategist Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 18 minutes ago, Turk71 said: His speed makes him a threat on every play... but the reality is he scored only 5tds on 75 rec this past season. Franklin for example scored 14 times on 81 catches.  Straight line speed doesn't necessarily convey or take the place of great route running, deceptive breaks, elusive moves in space, etc. I'd argue Franklin had a much better QB, IMO. Worthy is plenty elusive 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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