Charles Romes Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Sounds like an overpay for a 1B type receiver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 13 minutes ago, Gigs said: I would be to an extent; get mine but give a discount a la Milano or Brady. Everybody's different tho. However, Tee and Chase have both said they want Justin Jefferson to get paid first and reset the market. Realistically they're only keeping Chase after next year. Boyd is a FA and the Bengals just committed 20mil guaranteed to Higgins. The Bengals also don't like guaranteed monies after year one of the contract, so that might cost them Chase as well. Lucky for them this year is like a double dose of the 96 draft lol (it even comes with a rookie Marvin Harrison!) But they better get it right and hope Mr Glass doesn't have one of his kidneys fail, or suffer some sort of anal prolapse or something out of left field lol. That dude is one injury away from being Bad Luck Burrow. Brady offset his discounts with off the field sponsorships. Tee doesn’t have that. It’s not a great comparison at all. I’d expect the bengals to trade him like the titans did with aj brown. Will they get a first? Maybe not but I’d say a very early second like the pats, commanders or even titans to pair up with their young qbs. Esp wash as they have two early seconds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 (edited) 10 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: I really don't think so. The Bengals whole claim to fame is having a QB like Burrow with not 1, but 2 true #1 WR's. It's what got them to the Super Bowl over Kansas City 3 years ago. If you've got the money to keep that together, and they do, you do that. Take care of the Left Tackle in the Draft, where they'll be picking higher than usual thanks to their lost season without Burrow. At 74 Million under the cap this year, there's absolutely no reason they can't keep them both. Even if it's expensive. Mike Brown is cheap. EDIT: And relatively “poor” for an NFL owner. He’ll have to pony up all the guaranteed $$$ and stick it aside which is easier with deeper pockets. . Edited February 24 by Augie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigs Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 hour ago, aristocrat said: Brady offset his discounts with off the field sponsorships. Tee doesn’t have that. It’s not a great comparison at all. I’d expect the bengals to trade him like the titans did with aj brown. Will they get a first? Maybe not but I’d say a very early second like the pats, commanders or even titans to pair up with their young qbs. Esp wash as they have two early seconds That's why I included Milano lol. But still, we're all wildly different people and we all would value ourselves and co tracts differently. That said, what we have is a player in Tee Higgins who does indeed want his big bag, and the Bengals are not a big bag kind of team. So yeah, I could see the Bengals using Tee as a bargaining chip to move up and get a new WR on a rookie deal, depending on how the dead cap looks (I'm assuming they'd be on the hook for the 20 since it's guaranteed, idk how it would or could look on the books). But the Bengals are notoriously cheap (worse than Ralph was) so all we can do is watch it play out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 3 hours ago, Gigs said: Glass Burrow better stay mostly healthy, because Tee is going to be a #1 somewhere else after the upcoming season. This dude is all about the bag and I'd be shocked but not entirely surprised if he doesn't get snippy over getting tagged and not super extended. Yeah … dude should play for vet minimum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigs Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 2 minutes ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said: Yeah … dude should play for vet minimum Wooooooosh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Looks like the Bengals are going to go all-in in 2024. They can manipulate the cap to allow more FAs to fill the holes in their roster, and hope everyone stays healthy all year. They're in a tough division with 2.5 good teams (the Steelers showed they can beat anyone, just not very often, but the Ravens and Browns are both top-notch). I don't blame the Bengals for being aggressive but with that competition, it's going to be a tough year to get a high playoff seed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Will he actually sign the franchise tag though? The Bengals were always going to tag him If I'm the Bengals with how deep the wr pool is in the draft this season I look to trade him and draft another wr in the first. Reset the rookie wage on you wr's with another high caliber wr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Bengals are going to be a load to deal with in 2024. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 (edited) . Edited February 24 by Utah John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 13 minutes ago, Utah John said: Looks like the Bengals are going to go all-in in 2024. They can manipulate the cap to allow more FAs to fill the holes in their roster, and hope everyone stays healthy all year. They're in a tough division with 2.5 good teams (the Steelers showed they can beat anyone, just not very often, but the Ravens and Browns are both top-notch). I don't blame the Bengals for being aggressive but with that competition, it's going to be a tough year to get a high playoff seed. They cannot and do not manipulate the cap because Mike Brown doesn't have the cash on hand to do that. They are a cash-to-the-cap team that has their own internal salary cap which remains the same as the NFL's cap keeps going up. My prediction is that they will play this year with over 20 million in available cap space. The Bengals are, from a financial standpoint, the drought-era BIlls who happened to hit on a QB and WR combo in the draft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 11 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: As I said when we talked about this before, teams don't let important pieces of their roster go unless they don't have a choice. That’s the argument I’m making when it comes to having cap space to sign UFAs. It matters but then again not really. If you don’t draft, develop, and retain you’re doomed anyway. You want your cap tied up in your own - Bills are over the cap oh no! Yea that means we’re probably a really really good team that planned on retaining a lot of the guys we’ve drafted. Most importantly QB 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 3 hours ago, Low Positive said: They cannot and do not manipulate the cap because Mike Brown doesn't have the cash on hand to do that. They are a cash-to-the-cap team that has their own internal salary cap which remains the same as the NFL's cap keeps going up. My prediction is that they will play this year with over 20 million in available cap space. The Bengals are, from a financial standpoint, the drought-era BIlls who happened to hit on a QB and WR combo in the draft. Wow. That is NO way to manage a team in today's NFL. My kudos to the Bengals for succeeding under such a tremendous limitation, but it can't last forever. One or two bad drafts, an injury or two, and they'll be back to scraping by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 16 hours ago, Don Otreply said: He is so over rated…, hell even Davis is ranked higher than this guy in FAs getting open thread, who would want such a loser, right? am I doing this right? Sounds about right, we got some true "The winners are actually losers" mentality going on here. An excuse or smart ass comment about anything bad that happens to the Bills as if we are blind and dumb. Just look at the cap space thread, you would think the Bills were the only ones to recieve it, or the Araiza thread on how the Bills somehow "won". People trying to make excuses about it saying "their current punter is better" when they have no idea if thats true or not, and even if it is they save 4m cap space for another player. It's a lose lose for the Bills but the bootlickers come full force making excuses. I guess that's what 0 trophies does to some fans. Koombuyah I guess 16 hours ago, CaptnCoke11 said: With the cap going way up and only expected to continue to climb going forward teams can afford this now I just read the cap increase thread, I thought the Bills were the only team that got it and had a clear advantage 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 21 hours ago, Don Otreply said: He is so over rated…, hell even Davis is ranked higher than this guy in FAs getting open thread, who would want such a loser, right? am I doing this right? He battled injuries all last season.., Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 16 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: He battled injuries all last season.., I know, he has an annual history of ankle issues, although not certain if that was this past season as well, Davis that is, have no idea if Higgins was injured, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Fan Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 10 hours ago, Ya Digg? said: Right! Players should always 100% be about the money-it’s not their job to make things work within the cap. People who say they wouldn’t chase the money are lying to themselves. It’s such a weird world we live in where so many people bash the people who put the product on the field and protect the big time billionaire owners I never understood that either. I'd rather see the players get a bigger share. It's not like the profits go to charity. They go in a billionaires pocket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffblue Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 9 hours ago, Charles Romes said: Sounds like an overpay for a 1B type receiver. It's only 1 year. They're not signing him long term Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 10 hours ago, Charles Romes said: Sounds like an overpay for a 1B type receiver. Good, let them bust their cap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 1 hour ago, Don Otreply said: I know, he has an annual history of ankle issues, although not certain if that was this past season as well, Davis that is, have no idea if Higgins was injured, Ribs and hamstring in 2023 I believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 2 hours ago, billsfan_34 said: Ribs and hamstring in 2023 I believe One could say he is injury prone, that is if we are talking about Gabe, again I have no idea what is up with Higgins, 😁👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 So does this mean we have to worry about the Bengals again or can we still pretend we just need to figure out how to beat one team 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan2313 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 6 hours ago, Mikie2times said: So does this mean we have to worry about the Bengals again or can we still pretend we just need to figure out how to beat one team Everyone knows the Bengals are scary when Burrow is healthy. Stop making stuff up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 23 minutes ago, BillsFan2313 said: Everyone knows the Bengals are scary when Burrow is healthy. Stop making stuff up. I’ll believe we can beat the Bengals when I see it happen. We’re fortunate they’re in a very tough division. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 8 hours ago, Don Otreply said: One could say he is injury prone, that is if we are talking about Gabe, again I have no idea what is up with Higgins, 😁👍 Im talking Higgins lol 😂. Gabe definitely has had it share. Someone will overpay for him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 If they are smart they let another team sign him, decline to match, and gather draft picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 8 hours ago, Mikie2times said: So does this mean we have to worry about the Bengals again or can we still pretend we just need to figure out how to beat one team We at least know how and have beaten the Chiefs multiple times. Have had multiple chances late in the game to beat the Chiefs in the playoffs. We haven't really been competitive against the Bengals on either side of the ball, but on defense in particular. We have no clue how to beat the Bengals. Three straight games they've started the game with back to back scoring drives to open up the game. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 On 2/23/2024 at 10:47 PM, FireChans said: If the Bungles don’t get a long term deal done, I don’t think they are out of the first round market at all. Smart teams would draft a WR before it becomes a big need. That last sentence 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 On 2/23/2024 at 10:09 PM, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: Jesus I can't imagine what their cap looks like when they have to pay Chase as well. It will be rough but they can backload a lot of their contracts and re structure their big ones. Bengals window will be at least 2-3 more years until they start running into cap issues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 2 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said: If they are smart they let another team sign him, decline to match, and gather draft picks. Considering that hasn’t happened in like 25 years I wouldn’t hold my breath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 7 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said: Considering that hasn’t happened in like 25 years I wouldn’t hold my breath frank clark, Clowney and ngakoue all were tagged and traded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 19 minutes ago, aristocrat said: frank clark, Clowney and ngakoue all were tagged and traded My fault I misunderstood, I thought you meant another team just signing a franchise guy. I also don’t think anyone is willing to trade for him-he’s not worth a first round pick and the contract a team would sign him to. Lots of good young receivers in the draft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said: Considering that hasn’t happened in like 25 years I wouldn’t hold my breath They don't have to ask for two first-rounders which is normally the cost. Or trade him to someone like Washington who has a ton of cap room. Edited February 25 by SoonerBillsFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 1 hour ago, Ya Digg? said: My fault I misunderstood, I thought you meant another team just signing a franchise guy. I also don’t think anyone is willing to trade for him-he’s not worth a first round pick and the contract a team would sign him to. Lots of good young receivers in the draft commanders would be my bet. Two early second rounders. Terry and him with a rookie qb would be huge for development Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 lotta dough for WR3... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 On 2/23/2024 at 11:51 PM, GunnerBill said: Yea but they are going to have to pay Chase this year. The elite guys want paying as soon as they come due now - after year 3. If they don't pay Chase expect it to get tense quite quickly. Now the way you do that normally is you give him a huge chunk of change as a bonus so that it doesn't make a big dent in the cap until after the rookie contract years are done. But Mike Brown is a cash to cap guy. He doesn't have deep pockets to start throwing a lot of money around up front and then just account for it on the cap over the long term. It just makes it tricky. I don't think this is the right play by the Bengals (and I have always liked Tee a lot) unless they are going to try the much talked about, rarely executed, tag and trade option turn that 3rd round comp pick into a 1st or high 2nd maybe? Not necessarily. Usually that happens if the player was drafted outside of the 1st round and explodes, like Metcalf. Justin Jefferson is a better WR, was taken later in the 1st round of his draft than Chase was and a year earlier (means he got less in his rookie contract), and he's not demanding a new contact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 14 minutes ago, Doc said: Not necessarily. Usually that happens if the player was drafted outside of the 1st round and explodes, like Metcalf. Justin Jefferson is a better WR, was taken later in the 1st round of his draft than Chase was and a year earlier (means he got less in his rookie contract), and he's not demanding a new contact. Fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Cincy hitting Higgins with the tag so quickly tells us that they won’t be signing him long term. He either gets traded or plays on it this season and walks next. Either is a win for the Bengals, though a trade is the more favorable. To the end they made sure to tag him before the combine, where potential deals can be discussed. Smart move on their part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.