LABILLBACKER Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 39 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Good against the run but not a consistent pass rusher. Said it all along that he’s not a guy that’s going to win off the edge and get to the QB with any kind of regularity. He’s a good player for what he is though. 5 sacks a year for a 1st round DE is not going to work. He's mediocre and not a game wrecker. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bermuda Triangle Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 11 minutes ago, boyst said: the DL did as good as any other unit. the passes were quick. they didn't have time to get to mahomes. targets open downfield. poor tackling by the team. a lot of issues. the dl wasn't the worst unit yesterday. Got gashed in the run game too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimmer323i Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 48 minutes ago, Bill51390 said: Thoughts and opinions? It may be time to start looking elsewhere. He has definitely underperformed and hasn’t played to the level we expected. Nobody on the D line showed up last night… Where was Oliver where’s was Jones? Floyd where the •••• was he… These guys always disappear in big playoff games it seems…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Just now, Bimmer323i said: Where was Oliver He reverted to prior form 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 9 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Tom Brady: Round 6 Pick 199 Cmon. We can find ONE guy at almost any draft spot over the history of the NFL. Except it’s not just 1 guy. 7 of the top 10 sack leaders this year were taken with the 26th pick and later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nester Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Is this a serious post? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 33 minutes ago, BBFL said: Yeah but the point is they needed to be great. There’s excuses for the CBs and LBs. they have been in and out of the lineup due to necessity. Not rotation. You’re down to some absolute scraps in a monumental game everywhere on the defense except the line… They should have stepped up. They’ve made plays all year but disappear in back to back games. Secondary and LBs stepped up against Pitt… they could have returned the favor and done more than, like you said, ok… the dl held their gaps. a lot of runs bounced outside or through the gaps that lb's and others were supposed to fill. tackles whiffed and missed like crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bermuda Triangle Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 23 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: He reverted to prior form Playoff Ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 28 minutes ago, Bermuda Triangle said: Got gashed in the run game too. how many of those runs did the chiefs have to bounce to another hole because the DL covered the initial hole? it looked like a lot to me but until the 22 is released i will just guess that the gaps were not filled successfuly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Just now, Bermuda Triangle said: Playoff Ed Every year but this year Ed you mean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 (edited) hes a disappointment, but far from a bust. unless he takes a step, hes probably a backup quality player during his next contract imo Edited January 22 by BullBuchanan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bermuda Triangle Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Just now, Pine Barrens Mafia said: Every year but this year Ed you mean Yes, the 2023 regular season was an aberration 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 minute ago, boyst said: the dl held their gaps. a lot of runs bounced outside or through the gaps that lb's and others were supposed to fill. tackles whiffed and missed like crazy. Don’t know about that, they were running right up the middle towards the end there. Didn’t see much push at all the whole game. If you had Bernard and Benford back there, that play would have gotten by. They needed to show up given the circumstances… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Just now, Bermuda Triangle said: Yes, the 2023 regular season was an aberration Absolutely. I was THIS close to being all in on Ed till he vaporwared it for the playoffs. He is what he is, and that's middling. A shame we blew a 9 pick on him 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 So what’s the thoughts on picking up his 5th year option ? Wont be cheap .. but they probably have to do it to buy themselves more time to work out their DE problems … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 On 1/22/2024 at 11:56 AM, Bill51390 said: Thoughts and opinions? It may be time to start looking elsewhere. He has definitely underperformed and hasn’t played to the level we expected. On the contrary, Rousseau has played well above expectations for a DE drafted in the late 1st round. Elite pass rushing DEs are the 2nd hardest position to find besides an elite QB. Rousseau isn't one of those, either, but he's a good one. Even that's a tough draw in the late 1st. Most of them picked in the 20s never do much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Well, we'll just have to draft another DE in round 1. Every year until we finally get it right then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Just now, PBF81 said: Well, we'll just have to draft another DE in round 1. Every year until we finally get it right then. They'd be better off taking them in R2 or 3 rather than late in R1. The odds are against you either way, but at least the investment isn't as high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Is he going to develop further, or is he just a tall Chris Kelsay? I like Rousseau as a player, but so far he hasn't stood out like I expected. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 16 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: So what’s the thoughts on picking up his 5th year option ? Wont be cheap .. but they probably have to do it to buy themselves more time to work out their DE problems … No way I'm pick it up unless he gets 10+ next year. If you want the bag you gotta earn the bag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Just now, LABILLBACKER said: No way I'm pick it up unless he gets 10+ next year. If you want the bag you gotta earn the bag. They need to make the call before the 2024 season starts …( by May actually) Its $13.8m according to this ..I think they pick it up to give themselves more time https://overthecap.com/fifth-year-option-projections Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bermuda Triangle Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 47 minutes ago, Brandon said: They'd be better off taking them in R2 or 3 rather than late in R1. The odds are against you either way, but at least the investment isn't as high. Been there, done that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 54 minutes ago, Brandon said: They'd be better off taking them in R2 or 3 rather than late in R1. The odds are against you either way, but at least the investment isn't as high. Yeah, I was just kidding anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 May as well pick up the option and see what he turns into as he builds muscle and strength. He is a very young player, will only be 24 at the start of next season. If you pick up the option, you essentially have a 24-year-old edge rusher with average production and high upside on a 2 year 17.5-million-dollar contract. He hasnt been elite like a member of this board promised he would be, but I am not sure you find 6 sacks a year from a free agent for much cheaper and Groot has already had time playing in the system. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Oliver took a step. Epenesa took a step. Hopefully Groot can too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubanmist 1 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 On 1/22/2024 at 12:59 PM, Bangarang said: Good against the run but not a consistent pass rusher. Said it all along that he’s not a guy that’s going to win off the edge and get to the QB with any kind of regularity. He’s a good player for what he is though. Too bad he doesn’t know how to play the LBer position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philholbroo Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Only use the 5th year option as a little leverage to extend him. Would not actually use the 5th year for him as a DE. But do please extend him, he is good and don't need a carousel to continue at that position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 I mean he was fine early, he was getting around Mahomes but then as the game went on there wasn't a pass rush really at all from any of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 (edited) Amon-Ra St. Brown went in the 4th round of this draft. And Creed Humphrey 2 picks after Basham. Edited January 25 by Big Blitz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 [This is an automated response] As a courtesy to the other board members, please use more descriptive topic titles. A single name if far too vague to post as a title and provides little insight into what specifically the post is talking about.The topic starter can edit the topic title line to make it more appropriate. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 (edited) I mean he’s almost as young as Tremaine. I kid I kid Edited January 25 by MrEpsYtown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 13 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: I mean he’s almost as young as Tremaine. I kid I kid He’s 6 months younger than Kincaid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 The Dline disappeared entirely against the Chiefs in the season ending lost. I think every last one of them is replaceable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comebackkid Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 part of the last half of year sack droppage could be attributed to the injury scenaro with lbs and cbs. first half the year and a healthy back field and qbs were having to hold the ball longer.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Meh … solid run defender, disappointing pass rusher. Toolsy guy who hasn’t gotten to the next level given those tools. I liken him to a Phil Hansen without a Bruce Smith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 On 1/22/2024 at 12:56 PM, Bill51390 said: Thoughts and opinions? It may be time to start looking elsewhere. He has definitely underperformed and hasn’t played to the level we expected. One, he hasn't been bad and is undeserving of being demoted. Two, even if that was a thing that made even a little sense to be done - you are aware that Rousseau, Von Miller, and Kingsley Jonathan are LITERALLY the only DE's we have under contract, right? We already have to re-sign or replace Leonard Floyd, AJ Epenesa, and Shaq Lawson. You want to add Rousseau to the list too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 The entire DL is Tarzan when playing against Jane, and Jane when playing against Tarzan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 25 minutes ago, Billl said: He’s 6 months younger than Kincaid. That’s crazy. The funny thing is that ages for guys coming out of college are going to fluctuate so much with all the transfer portal stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 He's like Phil Hanson. And there's nothing wrong with that. Happy he's on the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonderful Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Decent player. Not a bust, not a star. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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