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Von Miller faces arrest in domestic violence case in Dallas


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2 minutes ago, peterpan said:

We’ve seen so many claims like this, turn out not to be true.  With instant media these days, no one verifies anything.  People need to wait for all facts to be heard before making judgments.

 

Von however does have a history of steroid use.  Maybe he’s been “rehabbing”

I agree, but like I said earlier in this thread, if his girlfriend called the cops shortly after it happened, and then they showed up to the house shortly after that, and she had visible injuries, he's done for. Now, it says that she didn't go to the hospital, so if the "injuries" were very minor...not even sure what that'd be, a scratch maybe?....then he may skate. Any black eyes and/or bruises that are black & blue, or even red, and he's done.

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28 minutes ago, boyst said:

There have always been rumors and rumblings of him being an entitled jerk to people. Nothing I can quote from an article or anything. I know he was investigated for something a couple of years ago that was dropped. And I know at least two women have claimed to be his baby mama, with one flat out calling him a deadbeat.

 

Edit. Point of note. Just because it's not on his Wikipedia or other sources doesn't mean there isn't something there. No one acknowledges drew brees having at least 1 child out of wedlock from cheating on his wife.


You seem well-connected.  Heard any….uh…stuff about me?  Just out of curiosity of course. 

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7 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said:

Yeah, but one of them was a dick pic. Everyone with big weeners does that

No. They don't. And chicks don't even like Dick pics. 

7 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said:

Yeah, but one of them was a dick pic. Everyone with big weeners does that

No. They don't. And chicks don't even like Dick pics. 

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1 minute ago, Bob Jones said:

I agree, but like I said earlier in this thread, if his girlfriend called the cops shortly after it happened, and then they showed up to the house shortly after that, and she had visible injuries, he's done for. Now, it says that she didn't go to the hospital, so if the "injuries" were very minor...not even sure what that'd be, a scratch maybe?....then he may skate. Any black eyes and/or bruises that are black & blue, or even red, and he's done.

 

Sounds like you might have some experience in this arena. Incarcerated much?

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Just now, WotAGuy said:


You seem well-connected.  Heard any….uh…stuff about me?  Just out of curiosity of course. 

Only good things. 

 

You always make your bed when you wake up. And floss daily. you're a gracious and kind lover.

Just now, WEATHER DOT COM said:


well the Sabres show is from 11 to noon so that makes sense 

12 eastern. They extra point show js 10-12. Then Sabres show. Then OBL at 1

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2 hours ago, Bruffalo said:

This is wrong but my first thought is "Does he have a morality clause in his contract we can leverage?"

 

EDIT: Just in case this needs to be said.  Abusing anyone is wrong, but especially a loved one.  It's horrific behavior that creates generational trauma.  I'm not saying Miller is guilty, just that the act of domestic abuse is disgusting. 

That was my thought too, you ain’t alone 🤦‍♂️

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14 minutes ago, SCBills said:


I read somewhere we were projected to be $29M over, no?


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And here is the cap space with releasing the 4 starters you want:

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If we cut Dawkins, White, Johnson, Morse, Poyer, Harty, and Hines we can get down to almost $0 cap space.

 

 

14 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Either way, we will likely restructure Douglas.  There’s CB1.  Benford is CB2.  Elam can be penciled in as CB3. 

 

If you think McD is going to go from not letting Elam even sniff a backup position on gameday, to suddenly being CB3, I have oceanfront property in Kansas to sell you.
 

14 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Why are we signing all these players at market rates?  
 

Draft a nickel corner.  
 

Draft a Safety.  


Then we are back to spending more draft capital on defense, in a league that is dominated by the offense.

You also assume rookie players will be ready to start and play well. Are you willing to have another non-playoff season?
 

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13 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

A couple things here.   The Miller signing is quickly becoming the worst signing in Bills history.   The only way logical way to help his cap hit next year was to restructure, given his play and now this in no way can you do that now.   You cant trade him because no one will want him.   You cant cut him until 2025.

 

Secondly, and probably the most pertinent thing here...why in the heck is the writer of the article mentioning anything about him being a star in the league?   Just state he plays for the Bills, there is no reason at all to say how good he is at something given the content of the actual piece.

Counterpoint … it’s his football stardom that makes it a story to begin with.     The same thing happened in Dallas a dozen times on the same day and it’s not being discussed nationally.   Relevant to the facts in the case, no.   Relevant to “news”, yes.  NFL stardom in the news context is relevant because of stardom’s link to celebrity, not prowess.

 

We can await the facts, call this a bad event regardless of the facts, and condemn domestic violence all at the same time.

 

 IMHO.

 

Prophylactics, before the replies:    “Dozen” isn’t a crime statistic I have access to.   I made it up.  Further, the fact that domestic violence is not unusual doesn’t make it not terrible.

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Just now, rm -rf /* said:

 

Sounds like you might have some experience in this arena. Incarcerated much?


Weird vibes you have towards someone making logical judgments. 
 

The poster is stating what is obvious…

 

Seems to be that there’s a very big difference in her needing to go to the hospital vs needing minor treatment on site.

 

One lends credence to the idea that he snapped and beat her up.   The other is far more ambiguous as to what actually happened. 

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2 minutes ago, SCBills said:


Weird vibes you have towards someone making logical judgments. 
 

The poster is stating what is obvious…

 

Seems to be that there’s a very big difference in her needing to go to the hospital vs needing minor treatment on site.

 

One lends credence to the idea that he snapped and beat her up.   The other is far more ambiguous as to what actually happened. 

 

Okay Cleo, I did not realize someone would be judging my vibes. It was a joke really, Bob got it.  

 

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28 minutes ago, Saint Doug said:


Brutal

Breane should have traded for Smith from the Bears and could have easily traded Edmunds to the Bears who they ended up signing as a free agent.  This the Von Miller Damage

 

dead money 2024- 32m- cap savings 8.6m

dead money 2025- 15m -cap savings 8.4m

dead money 2026 -9m - cap savings  17m

dead money 2027 - 2.7m cap savings 30m

 

It was a terrible signing when he could have gone after Smith from the Bears for less money and younger

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1 minute ago, Einstein said:


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If you think McD is going to go from not letting Elam even sniff a backup position on gameday, to suddenly being CB3, I have oceanfront property in Kansas to sell you.
 


Then we are back to spending more draft capital on defense, in a league that is dominated by the offense.

You also assume rookie players will be ready to start and play well. Are you willing to have another non-playoff season?
 


Why are we the only team that can’t start rookies on defense?

 

Dallas had their LB drafted one spot ahead of Dorian Williams set to start before he tore his ACL in preseason. 
 

The Chiefs started a bunch of rookies on defense and won the Super Bowl

later that year.  
 

If we don’t release Morse, we bring back 8 OL, WR1, Slot, TE1, TE2 and RB1.   We should absolutely draft a WR early, maybe two of them given how good this class is.  Outside of that, what do we need for next year on Offense?   
 

Focus our FA efforts on retaining our DL guys.  Draft a couple Safeties, a DT or two and a slot corner.    ****** figure it out. 
 

If McDermott can’t do that, well… all the more reason to let him go.  

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6 minutes ago, Einstein said:


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And here is the cap space with releasing the 4 starters you want:

released.jpg

 

 

 

If you think McD is going to go from not letting Elam even sniff a backup position on gameday, to suddenly being CB3, I have oceanfront property in Kansas to sell you.
 


Then we are back to spending more draft capital on defense, in a league that is dominated by the offense.

You also assume rookie players will be ready to start and play well. Are you willing to have another non-playoff season?
 

Are there any projections/guesses on how much the salary cap will increase next season?

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This organization needs a fresh start in so many ways…..  I could easily name 6-7 starters I wouldn’t mind seeing let go for more youth and ability, plus it’s McDermotts time to go!

 

Crappy thing is I kind of like Joe Brady, especially when I called for Dorsey to be fired last year!!!!  

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14 minutes ago, CEN-CAL17 said:

 

 

Crappy thing is I kind of like Joe Brady, especially when I called for Dorsey to be fired last year!!!!  


Not to toot my own horn, but I called for Dorsey to be fired TWO years ago. 
 

 

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1 minute ago, juno999 said:

Are there any projections/guesses on how much the salary cap will increase next season?

 

Spotrac is already assuming a decent bump with those numbers.  It might go up a little more than their projections.

 

Next season has a chance of being a partial tear down and a lot of younger cheaper guys filling bigger roles.

Josh and some others will restructure too.

 

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10 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Why are we the only team that can’t start rookies on defense?


Not saying we can't. I'm stating that it's tough to swallow the thought of spending even more draft capital to rebuild half the defense. 

It's what we have been doing for years now.

Hyde's contract also expires this year.

We also will lose Floyd, unless we sign him again. 
 

10 minutes ago, SCBills said:

The Chiefs started a bunch of rookies on defense and won the Super Bowl

later that year.  

 

And their defense was bottom half of the NFL in points allowed. They won because of their offense. 
 

10 minutes ago, SCBills said:

We should absolutely draft a WR early, maybe two of them given how good this class is.

 

So draft 2 WR's and still draft 4 defensive starters? It's a lot to ask for is all i'm saying.
 

10 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Outside of that, what do we need for next year on Offense?   

 

A much better RT for one.
Likely need a new LT at some point with Dawkins only having 1 year left on his contract (unless we are willing to spend huge money to re-sign Dawkins).
A legitimate #2 (and drafted #2 WR's typically take a year or two to develop).
 

10 minutes ago, SCBills said:

If McDermott can’t do that, well… all the more reason to let him go.  


If we release Dawkins, White, Johnson, Morse, Poyer, Harty, and Hines we can get down to almost $0 cap space.

Then we will have to restructure a few players to get enough room just to sign the draft picks.
 

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6 minutes ago, juno999 said:

Are there any projections/guesses on how much the salary cap will increase next season?


Yes that calculation assumes the NFL salary cap goes up by almost $20M.

The $42M under assumes we get a $20M increase in cap space. Technically we are $62M under at the moment.

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LIke I did with Araiza, I will wait and see what happens and what comes out before I react to this.  But obviously does not look good if its DV involving a pregnant woman.  

 

Guess if its true, he and Tyreek Hill can get some beers and talk about their baby mama dramas lol

 

Sadly, the first thing that popped in my head was "will this allow us to get out of Von's contract" through a morality clause.  Never gonna route for DV against women, but if this is true, that actually might help the Bills overall cuz he is useless on the field this year as it is and it would give us cap space next season.  

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11 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

They likely cant cut him without going over the cap.   I am not a sky is falling guy but even cutting him in the offseason will add 17.5 million dollars of dead cap to a team that is already 42 million over the cap.  

 

Wow! This signing keeps looking worse and worse. However, I do understand why Beane took the gamble back when he signed, although it was way too much imo.

 

But didn't think it would turn out as bad as it has.

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