Does our defensive staff even study film?

[Wiz]

 

[MikePJ76]

probably like most of us they spent the week watching Oppenheimer. 

 

What a great movie.

 

Mcdermott should have called the atomic bomb defense on that final possession of the 4th quarter

Edited November 27, 2023 by MikePJ76

[MJS]

Nice breakdown. I wish McDermott did not blitz so many guys all the time. I'm not against blitzing, but it is just so risky blitzing that many. Why not bring just one or two extra?

[TheyCallMeAndy]

1 minute ago, MJS said:

Nice breakdown. I wish McDermott did not blitz so many guys all the time. I'm not against blitzing, but it is just so risky blitzing that many. Why not bring just one or two extra?

Can’t get called for PI if you’re blitzing 

[MJS]

Just now, TheyCallMeAndy said:

Can’t get called for PI if you’re blitzing 

I'm fine with blitzing, just not the all-out blitz he is so fond of. I mean, I like the aggressive mentality, but sometimes it is just dumb to do that. That all-out blitz against the Broncos was one of the key plays that lost the Bills the game. And now again against the Eagles.

[Bruffalo]

3 minutes ago, MJS said:

Nice breakdown. I wish McDermott did not blitz so many guys all the time. I'm not against blitzing, but it is just so risky blitzing that many. Why not bring just one or two extra?

Because McDermott's whole defensive philosophy seems to break down when he faces a QB who knows what he's doing (or Mac Jones, apparently). Rushing everybody scares bad QBs because they panic.  It just sharpens the good ones. 

 

McDermott can't see the difference or he's too stubborn to admit he's wrong.  Whatever it is, I'm sick of it. 

[MJS]

1 minute ago, Bruffalo said:

Because McDermott's whole defensive philosophy seems to break down when he faces a QB who knows what he's doing (or Mac Jones, apparently). Rushing everybody scares bad QBs because they panic.  It just sharpens the good ones. 

 

McDermott can't see the difference or he's too stubborn to admit he's wrong.  Whatever it is, I'm sick of it. 

You just need excellent coverage guys to blitz like that, and the secondary is so banged up.

[BBFL]

2 minutes ago, MJS said:

I'm fine with blitzing, just not the all-out blitz he is so fond of. I mean, I like the aggressive mentality, but sometimes it is just dumb to do that. That all-out blitz against the Broncos was one of the key plays that lost the Bills the game. And now again against the Eagles.

Yeah. His choice of designated rushers is the status quo 3 or 4 guys or all-out zero coverage. 
 

Great when it works. Awful when it doesn’t. 

[Ethan in Cleveland]

He was calling such a good game in the first half. Rushing 3 orc4 dropping everyone else. His one blitz in the first half created the fumble. 

Perhaps he still called a good game. I really don't know. That first TD drive by Philadelphia started with a huge run where both linebackers looked like they were out of position. 

I still believe McD needs to go for multiple reasons. Yes the players need to do better. But this many 4th quarter collapses is inexcusable. 

[strive_for_five_guy]

2 minutes ago, Bruffalo said:

Because McDermott's whole defensive philosophy seems to break down when he faces a QB who knows what he's doing (or Mac Jones, apparently). Rushing everybody scares bad QBs because they panic.  It just sharpens the good ones. 

 

McDermott can't see the difference or he's too stubborn to admit he's wrong.  Whatever it is, I'm sick of it. 

The raindrops led to poor visibility on the field

[MJS]

3 minutes ago, BBFL said:

Yeah. His choice of designated rushers is the status quo 3 or 4 guys or all-out zero coverage. 
 

Great when it works. Awful when it doesn’t. 

Too risky for me. I guess I am more conservative.

[Bruffalo]

3 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

The raindrops led to poor visibility on the field

Those were the tears of Bills fans from around the globe.

[dorquemada]

9 minutes ago, Bruffalo said:

Because McDermott's whole defensive philosophy seems to break down when he faces a QB who knows what he's doing (or Mac Jones, apparently). Rushing everybody scares bad QBs because they panic.  It just sharpens the good ones. 

 

McDermott can't see the difference or he's too stubborn to admit he's wrong.  Whatever it is, I'm sick of it. 

 

He's lost to

 

 

TWICE

 

Has he beaten any other team twice?

[HomeskillitMoorman]

It'S fRaZiEr'S fAuLt!

[Marcus Aurelius]

Perhaps the Defensive Staff has gone Hollywood 🤔 

[ControllerOfPlanetX]

Not the way they should..

 

 

[Livinginthepast]

I wish Rasul Douglas reaction on the TD run by Hurts had been slightly faster like maybe an athlete in his 20s in the NFL and not like some mall cop to a SF shop lifter! Watch his pathetic attempt to stop Hurts!

[Big Turk]

2 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

He was calling such a good game in the first half. Rushing 3 orc4 dropping everyone else. His one blitz in the first half created the fumble. 

Perhaps he still called a good game. I really don't know. That first TD drive by Philadelphia started with a huge run where both linebackers looked like they were out of position. 

I still believe McD needs to go for multiple reasons. Yes the players need to do better. But this many 4th quarter collapses is inexcusable. 

 

Isn't it sad that even during the drought years we still had plenty of times the D sealed games for us but yet anytime it's left up to this D they fail?

[mjt328]

2 hours ago, dorquemada said:

 

He's lost to

 

 

TWICE

 

Has he beaten any other team twice?

 

The offense was responsible for both of those losses to the Jets.

 

 

[Matt_In_NH]

I think there is a touch of over analysis going on.  Sometimes the opponent has the right call against your call.  You cannot cover every single thing the opponent does on every play.  At least I dont think you can.  Overall, not happy with the defensive performance but they were doing some things...in the 4th quarter they totally left the middle of the field open presnap to let Hurts try to take off, he did and the Bills closed it immediately after the snap.  It is chess and sometimes things work against you.

Edited November 27, 2023 by Matt_In_NH

[Buffalo716]

3 hours ago, MJS said:

You just need excellent coverage guys to blitz like that, and the secondary is so banged up.

When you blitz like that you actually don't need to cover as long so it actually masks lesser corners 

 

Hence why McDermott is getting more aggressive on an older and banged up secondary... Dropping seven could make them cover for 5 seconds.... Blitzing 6 gets the ball out in two... That's three less seconds to cover

 

Defensive backs need to trust their technique 

 

 

[Matt_In_NH]

7 minutes ago, Livinginthepast said:

I wish Rasul Douglas reaction on the TD run by Hurts had been slightly faster like maybe an athlete in his 20s in the NFL and not like some mall cop to a SF shop lifter! Watch his pathetic attempt to stop Hurts!

Was he the one standing in the endzone who tried to sort of punch the ball after watching Hurst run to the goal line?  I thought that was Poyer.

[Yobogoya!]

3 hours ago, MJS said:

Nice breakdown. I wish McDermott did not blitz so many guys all the time. I'm not against blitzing, but it is just so risky blitzing that many. Why not bring just one or two extra?

 

Eh, the big criticism with Frazier is that he NEVER brought extra pressure. A nice balance would be best, and you have to be good at reading the situation obviously. 

 

Something I noticed yesterday was we blitzed a linebacker (I can't remember who) from like 2-3 yards behind the line of scrimmage and he looked SO SLOW I knew there was no chance he could possibly impact the play, let alone get to Hurts in time to disrupt him. And of course, I don't even think he had touched the LOS before the pass was thrown. 

 

The best pressure schemes understand their personnel and how to use them. Don't call a blitz just to call a blitz - make sure the guy you're sending has a realistic chance to do something. Otherwise you're taking him out of coverage for no reason. 

[MJS]

31 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

When you blitz like that you actually don't need to cover as long so it actually masks lesser corners 

 

Hence why McDermott is getting more aggressive on an older and banged up secondary... Dropping seven could make them cover for 5 seconds.... Blitzing 6 gets the ball out in two... That's three less seconds to cover

 

Defensive backs need to trust their technique 

True, to an extent. I just think he blitzes too many at once.

[4BillsintheBurgh]

I didn't like what Epenesa did on this play nor the one prior. Don't know if that's what the scheme called for, but he basically crashed on both and took himself out of the play.

[Luka]

Remember Jim Schwartz? He had a hell of defense. Still does to this day. 

[PBF81]

4 hours ago, Bruffalo said:

Because McDermott's whole defensive philosophy seems to break down when he faces a QB who knows what he's doing (or Mac Jones, apparently).

 

😂🤣😂

 

 

Edited November 27, 2023 by PBF81

[Anon Y. Mous]

I’m sure they do study film but I doubt it’s family friendly. 

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

The defense is the same zone every week every down every game. The league figured this guy’s defense out in 2020. Just zero adjustments and every QB that’s willing to take the easy throw will have anything they want on every 3rd down. If we aren’t turning people over, we aren’t stopping them. McDermotts defense is what cost us a Super Bowl and now it’s costing us the playoffs 

[PBF81]

Not aiding any defense of the Defense, is the fact that they were on the field in regulation for only 24 minutes and 56 plays.  Both well below league averages.  

 

 

[Buffalo716]

38 minutes ago, Luka said:

Remember Jim Schwartz? He had a hell of defense. Still does to this day. 

Do you remember when his defense also gave up critical touchdowns in terrible spots?

 

And couldn't get stops when it mattered in big games?

 

Yeah that happened with him here too

[Old Coot]

The D did put Philly in a spot where it needed a 60 yard field goal in the rain to send the game into OT

[Augie]

I am guessing the answer is yes. Please forgive me if this has been mentioned. 

[Chaos]

4 hours ago, MJS said:

You just need excellent coverage guys to blitz like that, and the secondary is so banged up.

Douglas, Poyer, Hyde, Benford.   Coach has plenty of talent in the secondary

[MJS]

13 minutes ago, Chaos said:

Douglas, Poyer, Hyde, Benford.   Coach has plenty of talent in the secondary

Poyer and Hyde are not what they used to be. Benford is fine, but he was a 6th round pick for a reason.

[Chaos]

8 minutes ago, MJS said:

Poyer and Hyde are not what they used to be. Benford is fine, but he was a 6th round pick for a reason.

McD failed as a DC this season. His failure is on him. 

[BobbyC81]

2 hours ago, Livinginthepast said:

I wish Rasul Douglas reaction on the TD run by Hurts had been slightly faster like maybe an athlete in his 20s in the NFL and not like some mall cop to a SF shop lifter! Watch his pathetic attempt to stop Hurts!

He was in position and had enough time to nail him and keep him out of the end zone.  Wimpy attempt.

[Simon]

6 minutes ago, BobbyC81 said:

He was in position and had enough time to nail him and keep him out of the end zone.  Wimpy attempt.

 

imo, there was exactly a 0% chance he was keeping Hurts out of the endzone from that position.

His choices were:

1) Take out Hurts' knees in frustration just after he had already crossed the goalline

2) Get close enough to take a hopeless punch at the ball

 

Considering what an awful day he was having, I'm glad Rasul didn't resort to #1.

[Livinginthepast]

14 minutes ago, BobbyC81 said:

He was in position and had enough time to nail him and keep him out of the end zone.  Wimpy attempt.

Yes oddly so. Even if he nailed Hurts at the goal line and made him pay for it and he still got the TD I would be ok with it but he caresses him!

[bouds]

It's called desperation.

 

Engage 8 in Madden when you can't stop a thing lol.