Process Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 In the past year the bears have  - Traded a top 40 pick for a DE who has never had double digits sacks, and paid him $25M /yr  -Signed Edmunds to a contract paying him $18M /yr  - Traded the #32 pick for Chase Claypool only to basically cut him a year later  😳 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 Meanwhile the rest of the team. Â 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Warcodered said: Meanwhile the rest of the team.  What about Edmunds? 😳 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 that's how some here would have Beane run the Bills, and i'm not even kidding  4 2 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 What. Are. The Bears. Doing?!  First of all, Sweat was a free agent after the year, they could’ve handed him the bag without losing a draft choice. No other team was paying Sweat close to $25M/yr. All this before they’ve even seen him take a snap in their defense. I could run that organization better and do it for less than half of what Poles is making 😅 Poor Bears fans. 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sven233 Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 (edited) What in the world has this guy done in this league to justify that kind of contract? I mean, we'll have to wait to see the final breakdown of the contract, but man..... At those number, for that level of player, you can kiss AJ Epenesa goodbye for sure now. If AJ continues his level of play that he's had this season, even though it has been a bit of up and down at times, he's smiling looking at this contract for sure. Edited November 4, 2023 by sven233 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 15 minutes ago, Process said: In the past year the bears have  - Traded a top 40 pick for a DE who has never had double digits sacks, and paid him $25M /yr  -Signed Edmunds to a contract paying him $18M /yr  - Traded the #32 pick for Chase Claypool only to basically cut him a year later  😳  Now that is a process I would not trust.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 Wow. How long before the Bears GM get fired? What a disaster! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 The problem with the Bears is one that Bills fans should be very familiar with. Â Their owner is 100 year old Virginia Halas McCaskey. Â They are stuck in mediocrity until the team is sold after her passing. And then a couple years to right the ship. Â Nothing will change until that happens, just like in our drought years with Ralph. 4 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 9 minutes ago, wppete said: Wow. How long before the Bears GM get fired? What a disaster!  Bears fans are hoping for halftime of the next game. It’s soon enough, and it adds a nice twist. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 Wouldn't it be cool to make $98,000,000? Â 2 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 5 minutes ago, Augie said:  Bears fans are hoping for halftime of the next game. It’s soon enough, and it adds a nice twist. He’s a disaster. I wouldn’t be surprised if they pass on Caleb Williams if available to them at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, Buffalo619 said: They spent a ton of money this year. They’re trying to win. It’s the gm who is sabotaging their future, he need to go asap.  We tried to win too. Elderly, absentee (or even worse, meddling) owners just cant get it done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Buffalo619 said: I dont think so. You put too much emphasis on what an owner responsibility is in an organization. Â Everything starts at the top. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co_springs_billsfan Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dablitzkrieg said: What about Edmunds? 😳 He won't be 20 until next season Edited November 4, 2023 by co_springs_billsfan Typo 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 29 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said: What. Are. The Bears. Doing?!  First of all, Sweat was a free agent after the year, they could’ve handed him the bag without losing a draft choice.   Yes. This is insanity. They pretty much just threw away a 2nd round pick. And based on their team, it's going to be a very high 2nd round pick. What a disaster. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 52 minutes ago, Process said: In the past year the bears have  - Traded a top 40 pick for a DE who has never had double digits sacks, and paid him $25M /yr  -Signed Edmunds to a contract paying him $18M /yr  - Traded the #32 pick for Chase Claypool only to basically cut him a year later  😳  Bears are gonna Bear lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 Sweat is a good player. Paid now like a great player. The Bears are hopeless top to bottom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 50 minutes ago, Process said: In the past year the bears have  - Traded a top 40 pick for a DE who has never had double digits sacks, and paid him $25M /yr  -Signed Edmunds to a contract paying him $18M /yr  - Traded the #32 pick for Chase Claypool only to basically cut him a year later  😳  They should've nixed poles ability to make this trade. They're stacked with picks, and he's making crazy moves in hopes to be around to make all those picks.  The trade down was great, especially demanding dj moore... but that was luck and desperation of another bad team.  Both the trade and extension are the - flop around on the keyboard when the boss walks by to look busy - type moves 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 It’s kinda unfair to judge them on the sweat and Edmunds contracts. They have tons of cap space and are a horribly ran franchise. They have to spend it. As bills fans I’d expect some of you to remember that you have to overpay free agents to join or stay in the dumpster fire. But please, don’t let that stop you from the non stop edmunds bashing as he lives rent free in some of y’all’s heads. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 47 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: What about Edmunds? 😳 When he gets out of high school he’s gonna be a beast 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 Have the Bears ever heard of a position known as quarterback? Â I've been watching football for fifty years or so, and as far as I can recall during that time, Jay Cutler was the best QB they ever had. That's pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 27 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: It’s kinda unfair to judge them on the sweat and Edmunds contracts.   Unfair to judge Poles on the two biggest contracts of his career? If your GM spends $170M on two players I'd say that's fair game for criticism. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 Not a bad move by Chicago.  Their defense is awful.  Got a very good edge player for a second round pick.  Sweat seems comparable to Greg Rousseau…next year Beane will have to decide whether to offer him a deal like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 They might have the top two picks in the draft and instant great offense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 35 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Sweat is a good player. Paid now like a great player. The Bears are hopeless top to bottom. Sweat has elite traits…his production has been somewhat disappointing but that Washington team is a joke and Del Rio is an abysmal defensive coordinator.  He is young and has a lot of upside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, QCity said:  Unfair to judge Poles on the two biggest contracts of his career? If your GM spends $170M on two players I'd say that's fair game for criticism. Where else were they gonna spend the money? They still have a ridiculous amount of space and have the ability to sign any free agent they want quarterbacks included. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 Damarius Bilbo....he has to be a Bills fan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted November 4, 2023 Author Share Posted November 4, 2023 5 minutes ago, mannc said: Not a bad move by Chicago.  Their defense is awful.  Got a very good edge player for a second round pick.  Sweat seems comparable to Greg Rousseau…next year Beane will have to decide whether to offer him a deal like this. Suggesting that Greg Rousseau is worth $25M a year is nuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, aristocrat said: They might have the top two picks in the draft and instant great offense Yep, the Bears will have two top-five picks in a loaded draft. Â Will be interesting to see if they use one on a QB, but they can certainly trade one of those picks for a huge haul. Â They will be in a position to rebuild very quickly if they play this right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted November 4, 2023 Author Share Posted November 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Rc2catch said: Where else were they gonna spend the money? They still have a ridiculous amount of space and have the ability to sign any free agent they want quarterbacks included. You just ignoring that they traded a second round pick for a guy they could have signed in 5 months and the #32 pick for Claypool? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 Just now, mannc said: Yep, the Bears will have two top-five picks in a loaded draft.  Will be interesting to see if they use one on a QB, but they can certainly trade one of those picks for a huge haul.  They will be in a position to rebuild very quickly if they play this right. Cards in full tank mode now. Do they trade kyler? They’d have to pay someone to take that contract. Bears take a qb at 2 and trade down for bowers or Keon Coleman unless Harrison is there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, Process said: Suggesting that Greg Rousseau is worth $25M a year is nuts What I said is that Rousseau and Sweat are comparable players, both physically and production-wise.  Rousseau is still young and developing and yes, he will probably land a big contract in a year or two… 3 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Cards in full tank mode now. Do they trade kyler? They’d have to pay someone to take that contract. Bears take a qb at 2 and trade down for bowers or Keon Coleman unless Harrison is there. Do you think there is a chance they stick with Fields and use the first of those picks on Harrison?  I think they are in a really good position, thanks to Carolina’s foolishness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 (edited) I’ve seen a ton of Washington games living in the area.  Montez is very solid.  He’s definitely been better than Chase Young.  Not sure he deserves that kind of money but he’s good. Edited November 4, 2023 by zow2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBadBills Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 59 minutes ago, co_springs_billsfan said: He won't be 20 until next season He’s been 19 years old for 6 years now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 Just now, Process said: You just ignoring that they traded a second round pick for a guy they could have signed in 5 months and the #32 pick for Claypool? I was only discussing the contracts. The trades were silly and desperate moves trying to save their jobs. It was a monster risk sending a pick for him and even riskier when he said he was gonna wait to discuss a contract. I’m not so sure they would have had any shot at him in free agency though. They were not the only team that would have paid him big money imo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, mannc said: What I said is that Rousseau and Sweat are comparable players, both physically and production-wise.  Rousseau is still young and developing and yes, he will probably land a big contract in a year or two… Do you think there is a chance they stick with Fields and use the first of those picks on Harrison?  I think they are in a really good position, thanks to Carolina’s foolishness. zero chance they stay with fields. They’d have to give him a new contract I think after next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleezoid Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 I don't see what the big deal is. I get the feeling there's an endless amount of cash in the NFL. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 Just now, aristocrat said: zero chance they stay with fields. They’d have to give him a new contract I think after next year. You’re probably right, especially with a draft like this…they’ll never have a better chance to get a quarterback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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