WR Trent Sherfield signed

[billsfan89]

I like him as a Kumerow replacement. Sherfiled provides the same ST ability that Kumerow did but he has more upside as a receiver. Coming off a nice season in Miami despite not getting a ton of targets certainly not a dynamic player but as a WR6 who can play ST and step in as a complementary receiver if needed he has a nice role on the team. 

[PauleeeWalnuts]

1 hour ago, Logic said:

Diggs
Davis
Shakir
Harty
Sherfield

Assuming all those guys make the roster, they're realistically likely to only have one more WR on the final 53 at most.

I'd like to think/hope that said player will come via a high draft pick, but I am dubious. 

I'd also like to think/hope that Sherfield was signed mostly as a special teams asset and that they won't be depending heavily on him on offense, but again, I am dubious.

More improvement is needed at WR. I really hope they don't feel like they're done there after these two FA signings.

That list certainly isn’t going to cut it. Josh deserves better 

[NewEra]

10 minutes ago, starrymessenger said:

im pleased with the two WR signings. Both are probably significant upgrades and I give Beane credit for these moves. But this receiving corps absolutely still needs a WR 2 and I think that means finding one in the draft. I too fear that they may be going in a different direction. Hope not. Given his size and speed I wonder if this guy can play on the outside. Seems to be a big slot with YAC ability.

Yeah, he played on the outside plenty in SF.  

[Beck Water]

1 hour ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

Does anyone have his 40 time ?  Is he a burner ?

 

Didn't go to the combine (undrafted)

 

4.45 at his pro day

 

At least he's not a Smurf - 6 ft tall and 203 lbs, 32" arms.  From Vanderbilt in 2017

 

1 hour ago, Magox said:

This is Kumerow's replacement.   Plays special teams, good size, 4.45 forty, YAC kind of guy and coming off his best season.

The new #6 WR

 

He may be penciled in as the #5 or #6 WR, but I'm not sure he's just Kumerow's replacement as a primarily ST guy. 

 

He played 58% of Miami's snaps on offense (611 out of 1009 plays per PFR, apparently 422 per PFF?  Unclear on discrepency.).  Apparently played about half his snaps from the slot and half outside.  417 receiving yards on 30 receptions last season, 3rd on the team.  For comparison, McKenzie had 423 yds on 42 receptions.

 

I'm thinking he's kind of a back-up plan to Harty and Shakir, in case Harty goes down injured and Shakir doesn't take that desired step as a slot, but also he is someone who is big enough to play other roles than returner on ST.

 

Although that didn't go well for the Dolphins in our first meeting....he's the "Butt Punt" blocker.

[starrymessenger]

1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

his YAC was 3rd in over expected.   8.87 RAS score.   Played inside and outside for Miami 

I was wondering how many snaps he had where he lined up outside given his size/speed. I guess that means he is another hybrid like Shakir and Davis. I suppose they liked putting him in the slot for his blocking ability as well as being a big target for Tua.

Edited March 20, 2023 by starrymessenger

[ColoradoBills]

5 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

Ok, I’m fallin’ in love with this guy. Just watched his presser. Articulate straight shooter. Best described as HUNGRY & HUMBLE. Big, tough, fast, very good at STs and a great blocker. If you get a chance, check it out on the Bills website. I think we got a keeper!

 

I like how he told Maddy that he can play both inside out outside.  I keep going back to having multiple players moving into the slot

position all game long versus having one guy nailed to it.  Puts a lot more pressure on that NCB in my mind.

[NewEra]

1 minute ago, Beck Water said:

 

Didn't go to the combine (undrafted)

 

4.45 at his pro day

 

At least he's not a Smurf - 6 ft tall and 203 lbs, 32" arms.  From Vanderbilt in 2017

 

 

He may be penciled in as the #5 or #6 WR, but I'm not sure he's just Kumerow's replacement as a primarily ST guy. 

 

He played 58% of Miami's snaps on offense (611 out of 1009 plays per PFR, apparently 422 per PFF?  Unclear on discrepency.).  Apparently played about half his snaps from the slot and half outside.  417 receiving yards on 30 receptions last season, 3rd on the team.  For comparison, McKenzie had 423 yds on 42 receptions.

 

I'm thinking he's kind of a back-up plan to Harty and Shakir, in case Harty goes down injured and Shakir doesn't take that desired step as a slot, but also he is someone who is big enough to play other roles than returner on ST.

 

Although that didn't go well for the Dolphins in our first meeting....he's the "Butt Punt" blocker.

He’s almost 220 now.  6’1

[Warriorspikes51]

Diggs

OBJ

Davis

Harty
Sherfield

Shakir
Rookie  Round 1-3

Carry 7 WR's.  Cycle through the weapons on gameday. Use them all! 

[BuffaloBillsGospel2014]

The good thing about the Harty and now Sherfield signings is that these guys can play in multiple scenarios (special teams and contribute at WR) this may free up Hines as well to not just being a special teams ace. It looks like we're ready to evolve on offense and start going to more designed plays at least I hope this is what it means.

[Warcodered]

 

[Chandler#81]

His sit down with Maddy Glab. Still trying to find his presser in a format that can be shared..

 

‘Edit: just saw that @Warcodered posted it. Sorry @Airseven, but you’re wrong again..🤦‍♂️

Edited March 20, 2023 by Chandler#81

[Beck Water]

54 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

He signed a one-year in SF 2021 for $920k and a one-year in MIA 2022 for $1.18M per Spotrac.

I would expect something along the Miami $s.

 

 

He's got enough years and games they may have him on a vet salary benefit contract, where they pay him vet minimum ($1.08M) and a small signing bonus, but he only counts as a 2nd year player against the cap ($940k)

[Warriorspikes51]

1 minute ago, BuffaloBillsGospel2014 said:

The good thing about the Harty and now Sherfield signings is that these guys can play in multiple scenarios (special teams and contribute at WR) this may free up Hines as well to not just being a special teams ace. It looks like we're ready to evolve on offense and start going to more designed plays at least I hope this is what it means.

They can also both play outside and slot 

[Don Otreply]

1 hour ago, teef said:

i'm not going to read through all of this, but who is the most angry so far?

Not me, I’m naturally a little angry all the time, 😁

[Dr. Who]

2 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Def better depth.

 

I’ll hold out hope they are still planning on adding an upgrade to Davis… Real shame it will again cost them if they feel they don’t need to use high end resources for WR2. 

Josh will need more apologies at seasons end of this is the case. 😅

OBJ or trade for Jeudy.

[NewEra]

2 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Def better depth.

 

I’ll hold out hope they are still planning on adding an upgrade to Davis… Real shame it will again cost them if they feel they don’t need to use high end resources for WR2. 

Josh will need more apologies at seasons end of this is the case. 😅

The guy you speak of will be a 1-3 rd draft pick imo…..
 

unless OBj will take 5-7M for one year.  

[JohnBonhamRocks]

57 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

I agree with this in the sense that Harty upgrades McKenzie and Sherfield upgrades Kumerow. But I don't like that Davis is still locked in as the #2 WR. Short of a rookie receiver blowing away expectations, the best avenue for upgrading that spot is acquiring Jeudy, Hopkins, or OBJ. If we pull that off I'll feel great about our WR room, better than ever in the Josh Allen era. If we don't, I'll still feel underwhelmed by the weapons we've put around him.

I agree with almost all of this, but feel I’d be excited still if we get a top WR prospect at 27 (or by trading up). I think Addison, JSN, & Flowers in particular could come in right away and push Davis. 

[Beck Water]

2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Diggs

OBJ

Davis

Harty
Sherfield

Shakir
Rookie  Round 1-3

Carry 7 WR's.  Cycle through the weapons on gameday. Use them all! 

 

I can always be mistaken, but I think fans need to let go of their OBJ dreams.  Beane isn't gonna pay him what he wants

 

And frankly, I think there are only so many recovering ACLs a team should be betting on

 

I hope you're right about the rookie in round 1-3.  Round 1 or 2 preferred, for me.

 

 

[Alphadawg7]

I don’t know a ton about him, but all my friends who are Dolphin fans are not happy he landed here and said we are gonna love him.  
 

So be interesting to see how he fits in.  

[dorquemada]

1 hour ago, Dan Darragh said:

It's going to take him a while to get used to the fact that the ball spins the opposite way when thrown by a right-handed quarterback.  I'm guessing he'll be ready by week 8.

 

This is the season of optimism.  Save your mid season excuses for mid season, please!

[Shaw66]

59 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

I agree with this in the sense that Harty upgrades McKenzie and Sherfield upgrades Kumerow. But I don't like that Davis is still locked in as the #2 WR. Short of a rookie receiver blowing away expectations, the best avenue for upgrading that spot is acquiring Jeudy, Hopkins, or OBJ. If we pull that off I'll feel great about our WR room, better than ever in the Josh Allen era. If we don't, I'll still feel underwhelmed by the weapons we've put around him.

It's funny.  I have no concerns about Davis.  I think he's almost a model #2.  I think it's all about Dorsey.   

 

I've never been impressed with Jeudy, as I've said elsewhere I don't think it makes sense to add a personality like Hopkins to the receiver room, and I feel the same about Beckham, plus his injury concern.  I'd much rather spend resources elsewhere, namely the offensive line and middle linebacker.  

[Milanos Milano]

Who is our 1B WR? Why can Philly and Cinci have nice things, but we have to deal with dumpster diving? 
I honestly feel really bad for Allen and Diggs. 

[Buffalo Bills Fan]

1 minute ago, IronMaidenBills said:

Who is our 1B WR? Why can Philly and Cinci have nice things, but we have to deal with dumpster diving? 
I honestly feel really bad for Allen and Diggs. 

Off season still not over plus the draft. Too early for over reactions.

[Big Turk]

I remember watching the games last year and wondering who he was cause he kept making plays against us.

[Warriorspikes51]

he's on OBL now. Sounds like a genuine guy. Mentioned he hung out with Larry Fitzgerald previously quite a bit

[Dr. Who]

1 minute ago, ScottLaw said:

Yea I hope so…I’m doubtful considering their defensive HC and defensive needs.… and overall sentiment towards the position. 

I think OBJ is the better possibility. I suspect they want to use 27 or trade back a bit from there if they can and grab a LB.

[BananaB]

If I was Josh I’d say FU I’m never restructuring  again. 

Edited March 20, 2023 by BananaB

[Warriorspikes51]

Just now, BananaB said:

If I was Josh I’d say FU I’m never resigning again. 

 

Seriously? Come on......

T. Hill and Dolphin fans are very upset about this

[NewEra]

5 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

I can always be mistaken, but I think fans need to let go of their OBJ dreams.  Beane isn't gonna pay him what he wants

 

And frankly, I think there are only so many recovering ACLs a team should be betting on

 

I hope you're right about the rookie in round 1-3.  Round 1 or 2 preferred, for me.

 

 

We don’t even know what he wants- only that he wants more than 4M.  It looks as if Beane won’t pay him what he wants present time. 

 

That said, I don’t think it’s on Beane as much as it’s on the rest of the league. If no one will pay him what he thinks he’s worth, which looks to be the case (so far), his price will come down and possibly into a range where we can afford him.   If that happens, maybe Beane will pay him what he wants. 

[JDubya76]

Who Whofield?

[HappyDays]

1 hour ago, Aussie Joe said:

Is this gunna count against them for the Third Round Comp pick?

 

Depends. If the contract is for less than $1.75 million it won't count against us. That's what I'd expect.

[Alphadawg7]

1 minute ago, IronMaidenBills said:

Who is our 1B WR? Why can Philly and Cinci have nice things, but we have to deal with dumpster diving? 
I honestly feel really bad for Allen and Diggs. 

Didn’t realize Cincy and Philly won the SB.  Because if memory serves me it was KC who won and didn’t have a 1A let alone a 1B at WR.  

 

But to answer your question…Cincy has a 1B WR because their QB, WR1, and WR2 are ALL on rookie contracts.  Philly has a 1B WR because their QB and WR 1B are on rookie contracts.  
 

Bottom line is you don’t need to have a 1B at WR, and most teams don’t unless they have a rookie contract at QB and hit on at least one of the WRs at 1A or 1B through the draft.

 

It still amazes me how anyone can still not understand this.  

[Warriorspikes51]

Just now, NewEra said:

We don’t even know what he wants- only that he wants more than 4M.  It looks as if Beane won’t pay him what he wants present time. 

 

That said, I don’t think it’s on Beane as much as it’s on the rest of the league. If no one will pay him what he thinks he’s worth, which looks to be the case (so far), his price will come down and possibly into a range where we can afford him.   If that happens, maybe Beane will pay him what he wants. 

2 years 12 mil with incentives up to 18 mil seems fair for both sides

[Aussie Joe]

Just now, HappyDays said:

 

Depends. If the contract is for less than $1.75 million it won't count against us. That's what I'd expect.

I’m beginning to think it’s not going to matter…which one of our leftovers is going to sign a contract above $1.75m elsewhere? 

 

Gunna be one short..

[ColoradoBills]

2 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:

I’m beginning to think it’s not going to matter…which one of our leftovers is going to sign a contract above $1.75m elsewhere? 

 

Gunna be one short..

 

Singletary is in Houston right now.  We shall see.

[Warriorspikes51]

Harty > John Brown, McKenzie
Sherfield > Crowder, Kumerow 

[strive_for_five_guy]

31 minutes ago, starrymessenger said:

im pleased with the two WR signings. Both are probably significant upgrades and I give Beane credit for these moves. But this receiving corps absolutely still needs a WR 2 and I think that means finding one in the draft. I too fear that they may be going in a different direction. Hope not. Given his size and speed I wonder if this guy can play on the outside. Seems to be a big slot with YAC ability.

Between signing guys like Beasley and Brown for the late season push and then Harty and Sherfield in the offseason, it’s clear the team was not happy with the production of guys like McKenzie.  Agree they need to find additional WR talent in the draft too.

[BananaB]

11 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

Seriously? Come on......

T. Hill and Dolphin fans are very upset about this

The guy caught 30 balls playing along side two of the biggest weapons in the league. Big ***** deal! He’s more unproven than Davis going into last year.  This is what Beane does with the O, cheap out looking for guys who have not proven ***** but showed a little potential. Happens with the oline every year and the same can be said about the other tiny WR we just signed last week

Edited March 20, 2023 by BananaB

[Logic]

If Harty and Sherfield represent an effort to improve the bottom of the WR depth chart and the depth at that position, then they're high quality signings.

If, on the other hand, their signing allows Beane to feel that WR has been adequately addressed and causes him to ignore the position in the draft, then I'm not too happy.

As depth, special teams, and a means of diversifying the skillsets at WR, they're great. As "the answer" to improving the position group overall...not so much.

 

[newcam2012]

2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Harty > John Brown, McKenzie
Sherfield > Crowder, Kumerow 

That isn't saying much...