RocCityRoller Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Just now, NewEra said: I think this is the best bet too. Or roll the dice on another RB in rd 5-6-7 Agreed. Williams would compliment what the Bills have in Cook and Hines. I don;t want either of those guys carrying on 4th and 1 or 3rd and goal. Mohamed Ibrahim - Minnesota would be a productive get in the 6th or 7th IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Agreed. Get Hopkins AND Henry or Ekeler. It CAN be done. Just have to be creative and it doesn't have to kill your cap down the road either. I think Hopkins would kill the cap. Not on board with getting a RB. However, Henry interests me as he is a freak at his position and would bring something special to the table. We need to keep our first 3 picks this year. If a 3rd does it for Henry AND we have to find cap room, I would be in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 13 minutes ago, Allen2Diggs said: Yes, but we were already about $16 Million over the cap, and then we signed Matakevich, Dodson, Cam Lewis, Sam Martin, and Ike Boettger. I'm not sure exactly how much cap we have after all of that, since the full contract details haven't been released for all of them. But I believe that the Allen/Miller restructuring put us $16mil under. Cumulatively, they saved $32mil in cap. I believe that is what I read. But I’m posting this from my phone, in a sushi restaurant in downtown LA, and I’m on my second large hot saki. So I could be remembering this wrong… 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Oh and a thought on WR, my desire isn't to upgrade Davis, as much as it is to find an elite option at the slot, which will exponentially make the offense better 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 8 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Damn, I really was hoping we would be in on him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffBillsForLife Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 7 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Agreed. Get Hopkins AND Henry or Ekeler. It CAN be done. Just have to be creative and it doesn't have to kill your cap down the road either. Any WR 1B would in fact kill the cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 minute ago, BuffBillsForLife said: Any WR 1B would in fact kill the cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Just now, Rocky Landing said: But I believe that the Allen/Miller restructuring put us $16mil under. Cumulatively, they saved $32mil in cap. I believe that is what I read. But I’m posting this from my phone, in a sushi restaurant in downtown LA, and I’m on my second large hot saki. So I could be remembering this wrong… Buffalo is @$10 million under with the top 51 only 6-8million under with all contracts per Spotrac and OverTheCap. Got to keep rookie class money and roster filler room too. Already added a void year hit (660k) to keep Matakevich.... 🤮 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Just now, BuffBillsForLife said: Any WR 1B would in fact kill the cap. It's already been reported Hopkins would restructure his deal once trade. Could extend him 2-3 years and make it work. Extend DaQuan, Taron, trade Ed and you have enough cap to do more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 minute ago, appoo said: Oh and a thought on WR, my desire isn't to upgrade Davis, as much as it is to find an elite option at the slot, which will exponentially make the offense better Isn't Berrios available? Also the best WRs in the draft are smaller slot guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, appoo said: Neither GM nor Coach exactly made him a starter heading into Next season. I think they basically called him a rising prospect, which for someone who's going into his 3rd year as a starter, isn't the most ringing endorsement. He's competing for his job With who? There is no competition. Quesenberry is not real competition, and a starting level OT is not going to be cheap enough for our cap I don't think. It would have to be a draft pick I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 minute ago, BuffBillsForLife said: Any WR 1B would in fact kill the cap. We could sign a WR 1B and make other moves if we trade Ed Oliver, extend Daquan Jones and/or cut McKenzie. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said: Damn, I really was hoping we would be in on him. Me too. Dodson best not be the fallback plan they better be confident they land either David or Wagner. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Just now, RocCityRoller said: Buffalo is @$10 million under with the top 51 only 6-8million under with all contracts per Spotrac and OverTheCap. Got to keep rookie class money and roster filler room too. Already added a void year hit (660k) to keep Matakevich.... 🤮 Is Spotrac factoring in all of the restructures? I don’t think all of the paperwork has been signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: With who? There is no competition. Quesenberry is not real competition, and a starting level OT is not going to be cheap enough for our cap I don't think. It would have to be a draft pick I think. We're in D2 of the unofficial FA period. They will absolutely add someone to compete with Brown at RT 1 minute ago, TheBeaneBandit said: Me too. Dodson best not be the fallback plan they better be confident they land either David or Wagner. He might be it, as money spent on MLB when you can move Milano there, and add a younger player to play the Will, is a big opportunity cost. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, SCBills said: We could sign a WR 1B and make other moves if we trade Ed Oliver, extend Daquan Jones and/or cut McKenzie. I think trading Oliver at this point feels almost like a must if the Bills want anything higher than low-level free agents. Unless the Bills are restructuring Diggs and/or Dawkins, while cutting McKenzie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said: Is Spotrac factoring in all of the restructures? I don’t think all of the paperwork has been signed. Don't know. Spotrac and OTC are both updating as much as possible. Probably explains the variance of $2m in total cap space. Either way, as it stands right now, Buffalo is under the cap but hardly flush. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Go get him 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, TheBeaneBandit said: Me too. Dodson best not be the fallback plan they better be confident they land either David or Wagner. Why do we always talk this way about defense but not offense? We drafted Bernard in RD3 last year. Who’s our current slot WR?.. a RD5 rookie last year. Yet we must pay Wagner or David at the expense of getting Allen another weapon? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, appoo said: We're in D2 of the unofficial FA period. They will absolutely add someone to compete with Brown at RT He might be it, as money spent on MLB when you can move Milano there, and add a younger player to play the Will, is a big opportunity cost. I see a lot of talk about moving Milano to Edmunds spot and I don’t get it. Milano is an All Pro on the outside doing what they ask him to do. Asking him to do what Edmunds did is entirely different. I think the sound of it makes sense- I’m just not sure it’s a good idea to change what Milano does for our defense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Just now, SCBills said: Why do we always talk this way about defense but not offense? We drafted Bernard in RD3 last year. Who’s our current slot WR?.. a RD5 rookie last year. Yet we must pay Wagner or David at the expense of getting Allen another weapon? The best WRs in this draft are slot type guys. Also Berrios is a FA still. Wouldn't mind seeing him in the slot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 minute ago, RocCityRoller said: The best WRs in this draft are slot type guys. Also Berrios is a FA still. Wouldn't mind seeing him in the slot. Or get Allen a legit weapon … not just hope at 27 or Braxton friggin Berrios. But I guess we can never spend enough on defense. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRH Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, NewEra said: I see a lot of talk about moving Milano to Edmunds spot and I don’t get it. Milano is an All Pro on the outside doing what they ask him to do. Asking him to do what Edmunds did is entirely different. I think the sound of it makes sense- I’m just not sure it’s a good idea to change what Milano does for our defense. Edmunds leaving is going to change what a whole lot of guys do for our defense, including Milano. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 31 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: He was on the Ravens for like 4 years before he ever did anything Yes easy to forget his PS days and back end of roster days in Baltimore. Saw a story how he overcame alcoholism and became the player, and more importantly, the man he is today. Hope he does well with the NY "Football" Giants! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 minute ago, NewEra said: I see a lot of talk about moving Milano to Edmunds spot and I don’t get it. Milano is an All Pro on the outside doing what they ask him to do. Asking him to do what Edmunds did is entirely different. I think the sound of it makes sense- I’m just not sure it’s a good idea to change what Milano does for our defense. I think Milano - on the wrong side of 30 - might be better protected at the Mike, and I think Bills will probably adjust the scheme rather than trying to replicate what Edmunds brought - which is impossible. So you can ask Milano to play in a smaller box on typical down/distance, have the athletic Bernard use his speed to play in space with less coverage responsibilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan2313 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 13 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said: Is Spotrac factoring in all of the restructures? I don’t think all of the paperwork has been signed. Nope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 10 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: It's already been reported Hopkins would restructure his deal once trade. Could extend him 2-3 years and make it work. Extend DaQuan, Taron, trade Ed and you have enough cap to do more I don't understand the obsession with some TSW posters and Hopkins. Hopkins was a top WR. He is now 30 turning 31 this summer He has not played an entire season since 2020. has not topped 720 yards since 2020. Houston may have dealt Hopkins at the right time, but should have gotten more for him at the time. This team needs to get younger and cheaper, not older and more expensive. Extend D Jones, yes. Extend Taron, yes. Deal Ed, I've even come around to yes. For Hopkins or OBJ? No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Just now, RocCityRoller said: I don't understand the obsession with some TSW posters and Hopkins. Hopkins was a top WR. He is now 30 turning 31 this summer He has not played an entire season since 2020. has not topped 720 yards since 2020. Houston may have dealt Hopkins at the right time, but should have gotten more for him at the time. This team needs to get younger and cheaper, not older and more expensive. Extend D Jones, yes. Extend Taron, yes. Deal Ed, I've even come around to yes. For Hopkins or OBJ? No. Gonna keep on hammering the Jerry Jeudy drum 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Just now, RocCityRoller said: I don't understand the obsession with some TSW posters and Hopkins. Hopkins was a top WR. He is now 30 turning 31 this summer He has not played an entire season since 2020. has not topped 720 yards since 2020. Houston may have dealt Hopkins at the right time, but should have gotten more for him at the time. This team needs to get younger and cheaper, not older and more expensive. Extend D Jones, yes. Extend Taron, yes. Deal Ed, I've even come around to yes. For Hopkins or OBJ? No. This offense needs impact players now. The way the staff uses rookies doesn't give confidence that a rookie WR, even if very good....would be used much 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 9 minutes ago, NewEra said: I see a lot of talk about moving Milano to Edmunds spot and I don’t get it. Milano is an All Pro on the outside doing what they ask him to do. Asking him to do what Edmunds did is entirely different. I think the sound of it makes sense- I’m just not sure it’s a good idea to change what Milano does for our defense. They both played Nickel LB like 80% of the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: No I agree… I’m ok with dust settle FA acquisitions for the defense… they need a splash WR add whether that’s through FA or trade. Then they need to keep restructuring and start cutting players because Sal C just said that they are roughly at $15M in cap space right now. And if you have to get a weapon, competition at RT, a veteran S, maybe a LB, how are you going to do all that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 32 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: I think it's safe to say the Bills will be drafting a RT @ 27. Now we gotta hope one of the better ones fall. A possibility, but not a sure thing. You can get starting linemen in rounds 2-4, and I'm not so sure that they see tackle as a 100% need. I think they would look to potentially draft a tackle in one of the 1st few rounds - but likely someone versatile who they could move to guard if Brown pans out like they hope. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 HAHAHA THEY DID IT 3 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said: This offense needs impact players now. The way the staff uses rookies doesn't give confidence that a rookie WR, even if very good....would be used much Hopkins is expensive, a diva and constantly hurt. The concept of him playing at peak performance for the Bills is seductive but unrealistic and likely to be essentially a pile of burning money. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Just now, Straight Hucklebuck said: Then they need to keep restructuring and start cutting players because Sal C just said that they are roughly at $15M in cap space right now. And if you have to get a weapon, competition at RT, a veteran S, maybe a LB, how are you going to do all that? Probably the draft for a lot of that. I think they'll try to replace Edmunds in FA, but otherwise I don't see any other non-depth kinds of moves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extrahammer Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 I don't understand NFL contracts anymore. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Hopkins is expensive, a diva and constantly hurt. The concept of him playing at peak performance for the Bills is seductive but unrealistic and likely to be essentially a pile of burning money. And yet what are the other options? There is virtually nothing in FA. There is Jerry Jeudy for unknown cost (supposedly). And every draft analyst comes on and says this isn't a great class for WR. So is it on Beane to make a trade? #27 could be the best WR left. 1 minute ago, Success said: Probably the draft for a lot of that. I think they'll try to replace Edmunds in FA, but otherwise I don't see any other non-depth kinds of moves. Going to have to have the draft of their lives. They have 6 picks. Edited March 14, 2023 by Straight Hucklebuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Roundybout said: HAHAHA THEY DID IT And Corey Davis gets cut soon.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMode54 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Just now, The Jokeman said: And Corey Davis gets cut soon.... No thank you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Miles Sanders was a forgettable back until Philly's o line was the best I've ever seen 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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