thenorthremembers Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Just Jack said: Irvin is innocent, has witnesses who say nothing bad happened. Irvin is now suing the woman and hotel. https://www.nj.com/giants/2023/02/michael-irvin-misconduct-allegation-2-witnesses-claim-to-back-hall-of-famer-amid-100-million-lawsuit.html If he is innocent I hope he gets the money. Too much of this madness going on. I have a corporate job and travel. I refuse to be alone with a woman who is not my wife anywhere. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 Just now, thenorthremembers said: If he is innocent I hope he gets the money. Too much of this madness going on. I have a corporate job and travel. I refuse to be alone with a woman who is not my wife anywhere. Agreed every situation is different but it literally only takes one lady to say something happened to ruin a man’s life. If he did nothing wrong may he pull a Johnny Depp Amber Heard deal. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulsabillsfanz Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, thenorthremembers said: If he is innocent I hope he gets the money. Too much of this madness going on. I have a corporate job and travel. I refuse to be alone with a woman who is not my wife anywhere. That is very wise. I’m retired now, but I kept that rule over my years running a business. My wife of 38 years also approved of that practice! Edited February 13, 2023 by Tulsabillsfanz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 4 hours ago, Just Jack said: Irvin is innocent, has witnesses who say nothing bad happened. Irvin is now suing the woman and hotel. https://www.nj.com/giants/2023/02/michael-irvin-misconduct-allegation-2-witnesses-claim-to-back-hall-of-famer-amid-100-million-lawsuit.html if he’s innocent why doesn’t the woman and the hotel just give him all. the money. They would have to no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 On 2/12/2023 at 6:35 PM, Just Jack said: Irvin is innocent, has witnesses who say nothing bad happened. Irvin is now suing the woman and hotel. https://www.nj.com/giants/2023/02/michael-irvin-misconduct-allegation-2-witnesses-claim-to-back-hall-of-famer-amid-100-million-lawsuit.html At Irvin’s attorney’s request, the judge has now ordered the hotel to turn over video as well as names of the accuser and those who received the complaint. These kinds of threads get updated, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Airseven said: At Irvin’s attorney’s request, the judge has now ordered the hotel to turn over video as well as names of the accuser and those who received the complaint. These kinds of threads get updated, right? As long as there is new info or articles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 Did they ever say what was allegedly said? Or did he supposedly grab her or something? I had a friend that would get drunk and slap every girl around on the butt. He thought it was all in good fun but you can definitely cross a line when it comes to that stuff and when you are drunk is when those lines get blurred, literally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 1 hour ago, KDIGGZ said: Did they ever say what was allegedly said? Or did he supposedly grab her or something? I had a friend that would get drunk and slap every girl around on the butt. He thought it was all in good fun but you can definitely cross a line when it comes to that stuff and when you are drunk is when those lines get blurred, literally Your friend sounds like a real loser. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 4 hours ago, Nextmanup said: Your friend sounds like a real loser. Had. Words matter read it again 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted March 2, 2023 Author Share Posted March 2, 2023 https://www.nj.com/sports/2023/03/cowboys-hall-of-famer-michael-irvin-gets-big-court-win-in-100-million-lawsuit.html?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=njcom_sf&utm_content=nj_facebook_njcom&fbclid=IwAR2mVZ038P7UazUwlF72XIXtqpSJn23svuHZJrg5YMh6di6bXtR5yTRWXLc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 On 2/16/2023 at 8:58 PM, Airseven said: At Irvin’s attorney’s request, the judge has now ordered the hotel to turn over video as well as names of the accuser and those who received the complaint. These kinds of threads get updated, right? I have to believe that if there was a video, that showed any physical contact beyond a handshake, TMZ would have it by now. I would guess that Marriott would "leak" any physical evidence, if they had any, just to make the lawsuit go away. I know that doesn't prove that he didn't say something inappropriate, but if he did, her reaction could be a clue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Quote Because “the federal judge who’ll handle the case will be naturally inclined to look more favorably on Irvin’s claims.” "Naturally"??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Why wouldn't this already be part of regular discovery? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Sounds like the old hotel candy bar scam You give the girl the money but you never receive the candy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 20 minutes ago, HOUSE said: Sounds like the old hotel candy bar scam You give the girl the money but you never receive the candy if the candy is the nose candy type. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breakout Squad Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 On 2/12/2023 at 10:23 PM, thenorthremembers said: If he is innocent I hope he gets the money. Too much of this madness going on. I have a corporate job and travel. I refuse to be alone with a woman who is not my wife anywhere. Are you Mike Pence? 🤓 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevWarRifleman Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 Good one Augie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 A quick update on this case: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/03/10/federal-judge-finds-marriott-blatantly-violated-court-order-in-michael-irvin-case/ Federal judge finds Marriott “blatantly” violated court order in Michael Irvin case Excerpt: "Via Michael Gehlken of the Dallas Morning News, a federal judge concluded that Marriott “blatantly” violated an order requiring the company to surrender surveillance video to Irvin. Judge Amos Mazzant ordered the company to submit an unredacted video to Irvin’s lawyers by 5:00 p.m. CT on Friday. He also declined to prevent Irvin from making the video public. “That’s the penalty you face,” Judge Mazzant said — a more tactful version of “f–k around and find out.” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Marriott responds: Irvin Story Update 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Arkady Renko said: Marriott responds: Irvin Story Update Thanks for posting this. Damn...if what Irvin allegedly said is true. Won't post it here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 If their employee came to them and reported this, is Marriot supposed to ignore her claims about Irvin's alleged comments/behavior while she was on the job? What is the basis of his suit? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 (edited) It's just a he-said, she-said case now. I can see both sides. One of them is lying. Rich and powerful people like Irvin think they can get away with anything, though. Add alcohol and you have a walking, talking, potential lawsuit around every corner. Edited March 11, 2023 by MJS 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Wonder how many times that line worked for big mike? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Many times accused will find witnesses "who saw nothing". People have been murdered and with people in room and some people will have seen nothing. It all depends on your point of view and how much you were paying attention to that particular thing at that particular time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 15 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Many times accused will find witnesses "who saw nothing". People have been murdered and with people in room and some people will have seen nothing. It all depends on your point of view and how much you were paying attention to that particular thing at that particular time. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 (edited) Video from the hotel released by Michael Irvin: https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/cowboys/2023/03/14/michael-irvin-refiles-lawsuit-vs-marriott-in-arizona-will-release-surveillance-video/ Edited March 14, 2023 by chongli 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 On 3/11/2023 at 5:06 PM, Mr. WEO said: If their employee came to them and reported this, is Marriot supposed to ignore her claims about Irvin's alleged comments/behavior while she was on the job? What is the basis of his suit? No. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 2 hours ago, chongli said: Video from the hotel released by Michael Irvin: https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/cowboys/2023/03/14/michael-irvin-refiles-lawsuit-vs-marriott-in-arizona-will-release-surveillance-video/ Florio already starting to tiptoe backwards... "Reasonable minds may differ as to whether the characterization does or doesn’t mesh with Marriott’s version. That’s a potential problem for Irvin, frankly. He’s accused of making lewd comments to the employee. He has admitted that he had been drinking. If the employee has told a consistent, unimpeachable story to Marriott management and NFL representative(s) who investigated the situation, it could be difficult to prove that her explanation fails to match the video." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BattlinBill Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Where are all the witnesses he said he had with all their stories? Don't see anyone close enough to overhear that whole conversation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man with No Name Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 1 hour ago, BattlinBill said: Where are all the witnesses he said he had with all their stories? Don't see anyone close enough to overhear that whole conversation. you know he's a very loud talker, right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 3 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Florio already starting to tiptoe backwards... "Reasonable minds may differ as to whether the characterization does or doesn’t mesh with Marriott’s version. That’s a potential problem for Irvin, frankly. He’s accused of making lewd comments to the employee. He has admitted that he had been drinking. If the employee has told a consistent, unimpeachable story to Marriott management and NFL representative(s) who investigated the situation, it could be difficult to prove that her explanation fails to match the video." Why wouldn't he change his opinion when new info comes to light? It's what reasonable people do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 9 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: Why wouldn't he change his opinion when new info comes to light? It's what reasonable people do. The video was inevitably going to put shade on his shoot from the hip original opinion. It was an unforced error. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 10 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: Why wouldn't he change his opinion when new info comes to light? It's what reasonable people do. Reasonable people don't jump to conclusions in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BattlinBill Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 20 hours ago, Man with No Name said: you know he's a very loud talker, right? Of course, I'm sure the bar area was nice and quiet as well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 I don't understand why he's not suing the NFL or the network that pulled him off the game? Makes no sense to sue the hotel when they were simply reporting an incident an on the job employee made and that the NFL asked the hotel to do beforehand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 “I don’t really recall that conversation, to tell you the truth,” Irvin told the Dallas Morning News. “We were out drinking. It was just a friendly conversation. ‘What’s up?’ I don’t even know. … I am totally perplexed. That’s honestly all that happened.” https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2023/02/10/michael-irvin-sues-accuser-marriott-after-super-bowl-week-incident/11229565002/ he admits he had been drinking and cant remmber what was said. his defense now is after having seen the video is that the accuser did not act like i said something bad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 1 hour ago, papazoid said: “I don’t really recall that conversation, to tell you the truth,” Irvin told the Dallas Morning News. “We were out drinking. It was just a friendly conversation. ‘What’s up?’ I don’t even know. … I am totally perplexed. That’s honestly all that happened.” https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2023/02/10/michael-irvin-sues-accuser-marriott-after-super-bowl-week-incident/11229565002/ he admits he had been drinking and cant remmber what was said. his defense now is after having seen the video is that the accuser did not act like i said something bad who to believe here. person or renowned cocaine and kitty fiend Michael Irvin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 1 hour ago, papazoid said: “I don’t really recall that conversation, to tell you the truth,” Irvin told the Dallas Morning News. “We were out drinking. It was just a friendly conversation. ‘What’s up?’ I don’t even know. … I am totally perplexed. That’s honestly all that happened.” https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2023/02/10/michael-irvin-sues-accuser-marriott-after-super-bowl-week-incident/11229565002/ he admits he had been drinking and cant remmber what was said. his defense now is after having seen the video is that the accuser did not act like i said something bad he doesn’t know, he doesn’t recall….yet he states “honestly, that’s all that happened”. lol dumbass. He needs a gag order Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Irvin s clearly drunk af. He keeps pushing his hips forward to her, its not over the top, but noticeable. She steps back, seems noticeably offput but an elbow touch. Weird thing to react to unless hes acting like a pig. Just have a hard time believing all that is coincidence, especially with his reputation. Not to mention, she had nothing to gain here, HE filed suit, not her. Pretty logical something happened and she went to a boss to ask to not be put in the situation again. Very reasonable request by a nobody trying to do her job. Then he tosses around lynching comments, and sues them? Hope she countersues, this threw a wrench in her life because he couldnt handle a little heat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 Just watched the video, and I think this whole thing gets thrown out on both sides. Even if Irvin said what the woman claims, I don’t see how it’s going to be proven. And yeah, repulsive if he said what she claims, but her body language appeared at ease to me, versus trying to walk away and get back to work. If anything, her boss/coworker appeared annoyed when she got back, so it’s possible she altered the version of events even a little, to cover her own butt. And then realized she had to carry on with that story, for the sake of her job. Again though, I don’t see how the video and her word will implicate him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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