Your Gut Instinct: Are Beane/McDermott On Track to Win Championship(s) or Wasting J. Allen's talent?

[Chaos]

To my read opinions of posters on TBD are split on the Bills general direction.  One group thinks the Bills should stay the course and keeping doing the same things and that through some experience/maturation process the Bills will get better results.  The second group thinks the coaching staff has peaked and won't be able to do further in the playoffs than it has.   There is a smaller group that seems to think coaching changes automatically results in disaster and as long as your current coaches are competent NFL coaches and you don't should tempt the fates with a change. 

I am in the second group.  I am not sure thinking team McDermott has peaked means "fire everybody", but I feel like any further failure to progress means something should change. 

I may be guilty of overrating Josh Allen, but I think any current NFL coaching staff would get the Bills 2022 Roster to the playoffs, simply because Allen is that good.  So the goals have to be set higher than that. 

Edited February 4, 2023 by Chaos

[saundena]

I would have gone with on track to winning a championship, but McBeane's refusal to hold Frasier responsible for his 4th defensive meltdown in the playoffs leads me to believe they lack either the stomach or awareness to make the changes that need to be made.

 

This team has gone as far as it can defensively under Frasier and I hope OBD see that before it's too late

[GolfandBills]

I don’t think this roster is close to winning a Super Bowl.  Too many deficiencies on the roster and the coaching staff just doesn’t seem to be good enough.  

[Beast]

They should have won the SB last season with pretty much the same roster. However, they need to improve on the o-line and another dynamic target at WR for me to feel they are a legit contender to win it.

[No_Matter_What]

Voted on track to winning SB but that's not what I think.

 

I think neither of them is an obstacle to do so. They are both doing good job. But it's not enough to win SB in a league with 32 teams and 6-7 each year capable of winning it all. 

 

You need right circumstances and luck. We didn't have it last two years. And maybe we will never have. 

 

They are making mistakes, everybody is. But they are not wasting Allen. I might say that about Beane next year if he doesn't try (big time) to assemble better OL this offseason. We'll see.

[4th&long]

Too many holes on the roster especially considering the cap situation. Too stuck on their defensive scheme. It it’s old, tired and played out! And the better the o line and D line and get a legit wr2. 
 

now you also have Edmund’s and poyers shoes to fill. 
 

how are you going to do that with the cap situation? good luck!

 

 A 13-3 team is already in rebuilding mode.

[KDIGGZ]

They blew it with 13 seconds. They were good end of last year and beginning of this year. That was their window of opportunity. That's on the coaches

[Chaos]

6 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:

They blew it with 13 seconds. They were good end of last year and beginning of this year. That was their window of opportunity. That's on the coaches

Last year I thought it was obvious we would have gone on to beat the Bengals and Rams, except for that blunder.  But I no longer think that is obvious. It is likely the Bengals would have beaten us just like they beat the Chiefs.  And Miller and Donald would have killed us in the Super Bowl had we got by the Bengals.  The net result is last year was a regression from the previous year, dropping from the final four to the final eight.  This year we stayed pat being in the top 8, but ended the season with a massive beatdown, so it felt like a regression. 

[bmur66]

I don’t know. The playoff loss was such a let down. Without any changes this team may have peaked.

[elijah]

Check the board for the first time since the Bengals game.. And you’re telling me that so far 70% of people (19-8 in the poll currently) think there’s a better chance that we don’t win a championship under McBeane and Allen? 

 

It was a rough playoff loss and embarrassing coaching, true. 

 

McDermott is still a top 8 coach in the league, true. 

 

Allen is still a top 3 quarterback in the league, true. 

 

McDermott & Allen are still a top 5 QB/Coach combo in the league, true. 

 

The first statement can be true at the same time as the next three. It’s unfortunate the way we lost, and it was outright embarrassing for the organization and the city & fans that invest their lives into this team for 5-6 months of the year, and others that do year round. But the amount of criticism I’ve seen surrounding Allen/McBeane since this loss is borderline unfathomable. Confidence and faith should still be very high that these guys bring us atleast 1 Lombardi, if not more.

 

I was having the same meltdown the day after the game, and maybe even a couple after that. But come on, it’s 2 weeks later. Level yourselves. The Bills are still in a very elite class of the NFL and have turned into a model organization. It’ll come. 

 

And on that note, I guess I’ll have to keep TBD out of my search bar a little longer if this is still the direction conversations are trending 😭 

[Billsfan1972]

I know I've gone on and have been on McD since year one particularly from the minute he named Peterman the starter vs. SD.

 

I can list everything I've questioned and getting fed up with "The Process" and other catchphrases used here.

 

I too have said he has grown on me, but I still see so many little things that bother me and have stated them over and over in numerous threads and posts.

 

However, there really is no compelling reason to let him go and while we can question him retaining Frazier & Dorsey, I too understand it.

 

Look as fans we all want a SB victory and for the foreseeable future with Josh Allen if it happens it will probably be with McD.

 

I for one don't want a 9-8 2023 season and a firing.  I want 14-3, the #1 seed and the SB. 

 

Sorry I don't want to see a step back so the Bills can move two steps forward, because that will mean 2023 more countless threads & posts pointing out every mistake the coaching staff has made. 

 

So let's hope he has learned and it is not just lip service, as have Frazier & Dorsey, that the draft and FA shows commitment to the O and that 365 days from now we're talking about the upcome SB and not how the Bills should have done this or that.

 

 

[BillsPride12]

Just now, elijah said:

Check the board for the first time since the Bengals game.. And you’re telling me that so far 70% of people (19-8 in the poll currently) think there’s a better chance that we don’t win a championship under McBeane and Allen? 

 

It was a rough playoff loss and embarrassing coaching, true. 

 

McDermott is still a top 8 coach in the league, true. 

 

Allen is still a top 3 quarterback in the league, true. 

 

McDermott & Allen are still a top 5 QB/Coach combo in the league, true. 

 

The first statement can be true at the same time as the next three. It’s unfortunate the way we lost, and it was outright embarrassing for the organization and the city & fans that invest their lives into this team for 5-6 months of the year, and others that do year round. But the amount of criticism I’ve seen surrounding Allen/McBeane since this loss is borderline unfathomable. Confidence and faith should still be very high that these guys bring us atleast 1 Lombardi, if not more.

 

I was having the same meltdown the day after the game, and maybe even a couple after that. But come on, it’s 2 weeks later. Level yourselves. The Bills are still in a very elite class of the NFL and have turned into a model organization. It’ll come. 

 

And on that note, I guess I’ll have to keep TBD out of my search bar a little longer if this is still the direction conversations are trending 😭 

You're leaving out a glaring omission with your post....Offensive and Defensive Lines.  I have not been impressed with this regime's ability to stock up the trenches on either side of the ball.  Until Beane shows he's capable of building much better lines I can't see them getting over the hurdle to winning the whole thing. 

[LabattBlue]

Let’s live with it?   Is there any other choice?

[SoCal Deek]

No offense, but you seem to think the fans get a vote or something. We’re really just along for the ride. 

[Nextmanup]

1 hour ago, Chaos said:

To my read opinions of posters on TBD are split on the Bills general direction.  One group thinks the Bills should stay the course and keeping doing the same things and that through some experience/maturation process the Bills will get better results.  The second group thinks the coaching staff has peaked and won't be able to do further in the playoffs than it has.   There is a smaller group that seems to think coaching changes automatically results in disaster and as long as your current coaches are competent NFL coaches and you don't should tempt the fates with a change. 

I am in the second group.  I am not sure thinking team McDermott has peaked means "fire everybody", but I feel like any further failure to progress means something should change. 

I may be guilty of overrating Josh Allen, but I think any current NFL coaching staff would get the Bills 2022 Roster to the playoffs, simply because Allen is that good.  So the goals have to be set higher than that. 

Bills fans are not an accurate group of people to ask about coaching changes.

Why?  Because we have been a lousy franchise for most of our existence, and most of our coaching regimes have been TERRIBLE.  This makes Bills fans think that getting a hold of a good coach is nearly impossible, and that we really lucked out when McDermott and Beane came along.  

 

Further, these fans reason, it'll probably never happen again!  How many coaches have we seen of McDermott's caliber in the history of the team?  This is not the right way to think.

 

Meanwhile, outside the Bills fandom bubble, other franchises remain consistently at the top and make coaching changes as needed.   

 

The Eagles are about to win their SECOND SB in a handful of years, with a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT REGIME that won back in 2018!  Different QB too! Different everything! 

 

Look at the Bengals!  Lots of successes--to a degree--for FIFTEEN YEARS with Marvin Lewis..but never got the job done.

 

They finally cave in, bring in a new administration, move on from Dalton, and look at what the team has become NOW....

 

Sometimes you have to take a step back to take 2 or 3 forward.

 

 

 

 

5 minutes ago, elijah said:

McDermott is still a top 8 coach in the league, true. 

How in the world would you arrive at that conclusion?  As a game manager, he's middling at best.

 

Are you suggesting his ability to run a great prayer group?  Or give a nice speech before practices? 

 

It was recently suggested that Denver's hire of Sean Payton is worth 1 win in the regular season, simply by having him as their head coach.  

 

I'd suggest McDermott is worth 1 loss, simply by having him run the team on the sidelines during games for an entire season.

 

 

[HOUSE]

What ever happened to TRUST THE PROCESS?

[Nextmanup]

Moments after the Bengals game ended, I said changes are needed, but will not happen.

 

And now that's official.  We are headed for a minor regression next year--we'll be good, we'll win a lot of games, we'll kick the crap out of some 4 win team early in the year...but we'll bow out of the playoffs at the same spot or earlier next season...and our record will be a few losses greater next season.

 

And another year of Josh's career will be gone. And the heat will grow.

We'll probably see the coordinator changes NEXT season....and then more kool aid drinkers will start to think "Maybe it really is McDermott!"

 

It's tough going into an entire season thinking "there's not much to see here."

 

The upward trajectory this franchise has had for several years now is gone.

 

 

4 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

What ever happened to TRUST THE PROCESS?

Some of us knew that was crap from the beginning.

 

🤷‍♂️

[Chaos]

4 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

What ever happened to TRUST THE PROCESS?

Lucy had a process too.

[Dr. Who]

I don't think we can be certain that McD and Beane are the equivalent of Marty Schottenheimer or Marvin Lewis, but this year has tilted in that direction. Maybe they prove the negativity wrong. I don't think that is impossible, but I also don't think it's likely at this point. The league is built for offense. The rules are enforced for offense. The teams with offensive coaches are thriving more in today's game. No more relegating resources primarily to the defense. Build a bully oline, add talent where Josh Allen is a force multiplier. Any plan with a different priority is trending towards good regular season coach who fizzles out in the playoffs. Unfortunately, while I trust these fellas to create a winning culture, the edge you need to capture championships requires more than that.

[McBean]

Let’s eliminate Brandon Beane from

this topic because he’s just the finance guy.

 

This is Sean McDermott’s team and organization. He’s the Pegula’s son.

 

He is 100% wasting Josh Allen. He’s 100% a mediocre coach that got lucky his first year to sneak into the playoffs in the first place. I believe that team had a turnover differential of something so abnormal it was nfl history. O, and the Dalton miracle on 4th down helped too. The wins starting coming when #17 was drafted. Did he draft Josh? If so, that’s the only thing he lucked up on.

 

We are 100% not winning a Super Bowl with this clown on the sidelines clapping. His record is so flawed it hurts. Brady left, AFC East QB’s have been atrocious, and Josh Allen has bailed his butt out countless times. Good luck to you all believing we are going somewhere with him. I’ll be here next offseason when we’re eliminated to say I told you so again. I was on record wanting his freakin butt left in KC after 13 seconds last year. It’s an absolute organization failure that will live along time until we win one that we let this clown come back and to top it off, let WNY homegrown BRIAN DABOLL walk out the building. Pathetic.

 

McDermott, Frazier, and Dorsey = mediocre coaches living behind a generational talent at the most important position in football.

 

I’ll gladly come back on here and eat crow if I’m wrong. I hope I am wrong about McClappy but I’m not. Whenever he punted in the snow years ago for a tie I knew then he was Dick Jauron 2.0.

[elijah]

16 minutes ago, BillsPride12 said:

You're leaving out a glaring omission with your post....Offensive and Defensive Lines.  I have not been impressed with this regime's ability to stock up the trenches on either side of the ball.  Until Beane shows he's capable of building much better lines I can't see them getting over the hurdle to winning the whole thing. 

The defensive line started the year off phenomenally until Von’s injury, after a disappointing playoff loss last year Beane knew what he needed to address and he did so. It’s unfortunate that Von got injured at the same time that Rousseau and Oliver seemed to hit a regressive stretch, but he sought out to address the defensive line last year and without injury he would have done so successfully. Has he missed on Boogie and Epenesa? Yeah, he has. Tell me a GM that hits at 100% and I’ll show you how you’re wrong. Tell me a GM that hits at a rate higher than Beane and I’ll argue to my grave that Beane is better than almost every other GM in the league. 

 

The issue this offseason is the offensive line and wide receiver. Beane has earned my trust and confidence that he will set out to address the offensive line this offseason and he will do so. Might he draft a third round pick that turns into a bust in the process? Yeah, he might. It’s the NFL, it happens. But where he’s earned my faith is that he’ll over address it to the point that if he does draft a bust, there will be so many other additions on the line made that overall it will still display vastly improved play. 

 

My only issue with Beane thus far was the decision to go into the season with Gabe Davis as your WR2. It was short sighted and ignorant at the time, and it only looks worse after the season. Drafting a cornerback in the first round when you already had 3 All-Pro’s in your secondary, for a coach that has shown an ability to specialize in secondary development and get maximum contributions out of his players just made no sense then, and makes even less sense in hindsight after he split snaps with Benford and Jackson all season. 

 

We need to step back as fans, take a deep breath and evaluate the organization as a whole IN COMPARISON to the rest of the league. Very few teams are doing it better than our front office and coaching staff right now, and I might argue that with this consistency and longevity it may only be the Chiefs (and maybe the 49ers) doing it better. If you want to nitpick, then do just that, nitpick away. But leave it at that, it’s just nitpicking.

 

The fire everybody, we’re never going to see success crowd and hot takes are out of control right now. We’ve turned into a spoiled fan base losing sight of what we have in front of us. From top to bottom, front office, coaching staff, roster talent, structure and etc, we are a top 5 organization in the NFL and we will be a top 5 organization in the NFL for years to come. Unfortunately we’re not the Chiefs, but when you’re a top 5 organization in the NFL for a decade plus, that level of consistency is going to get you a Lombardi, and maybe a few of them if luck strikes the right way. 

Edited February 4, 2023 by elijah

[IndyMark]

I have to believe Beane and McD have done, and are doing, some deep soul searching and reflection on why they just cannot seem to take that next step. I firmly believe they are. 

 

What I am not convinced is that they are accurate in the conclusions they are forming.  But, maybe this past year forces them to see some ugly truths about their decisions to date.  At least, that is why I am hopeful.  I think smart people eventually can realize they are a problem.  And if they are secure enough in themselves they can accept it and get better. 

 

While there are things Beane and McD display that I just do not like or get, one thing you cannot argue is that they are super defensive.  Protective? Yes, absolutely.  Defensive?  Not yet. If you are defensive you are not reflective, this is why I think deep down both Beane and McD have realized, "f*&$, what was I thinking?".

 

If Beane can get out of his own way and finally accept that investing in a quality OL is a priority and if McD can get past his (very genuine and respectful) allegiance to Leslie Frazier then that is a start.  A good start.  Will they? Who knows. I am a Bills fan, so I am going to believe.....not with rose colored glasses, but I will believe.  If not, why would anyone continue to be a fan?

 

 

 

 

[SoCal Deek]

2 minutes ago, elijah said:

The defensive line started the year off phenomenally until Von’s injury, after a disappointing playoff loss last year Beane knew what he needed to address and he did so. It’s unfortunate that Von got injured at the same time that Rousseau and Oliver seemed to hit a regressive stretch, but he sought out to address the defensive line last year and without injury he would have done so successfully. Has he missed on Boogie and Epenesa? Yeah, he has. Tell me a GM that hits at 100% and I’ll show you how you’re wrong. Tell me a GM that hits at a rate higher than Beane and I’ll argue to my grave that Beane is better than almost every other GM in the league. 

 

The issue this offseason is the offensive line and wide receiver. Beane has earned my trust and confidence that he will set out to address the offensive line this offseason and he will do so. Might he draft a third round pick that turns into a bust in the process? Yeah, he might. It’s the NFL, it happens. But where he’s earned my faith is that he’ll over address it to the point that if he does draft a bust, there will be so many other additions on the line made that overall it will still display vastly improved play. 

 

My only issue with Beane thus far was the decision to go into the season with Gabe Davis as your WR2. It was short sighted and ignorant at the time, and it only looks worse after the season. Drafting a cornerback in the first round when you already had 3 All-Pro’s in your secondary, for a coach that has shown an ability to specialize in secondary development and get maximum contributions out of his players just made no sense then, and makes even less sense in hindsight after he split snaps with Benford and Jackson all season. 

 

We need to step back as fans, take a deep breath and evaluate organization as a whole IN COMPARISON to the rest of the league. Very few times are doing it better than our front office and coaching staff right, and I might argue that with this consistency and longevity it may only be the Chiefs (and maybe the 49ers) doing it better. If you want to nitpick, then do just that, nitpick away. But leave it at that, it’s just nitpicking.

 

The fire everybody, we’re never going to see success crowd and hot takes are out of control right now. We’ve turned into a spoiled fan base losing sight of what we have in front of us. From top to bottom, front office, coaching staff, roster talent, structure and etc, we are a top 5 organization in the NFL and we will be a top 5 organization in the NFL for years to come. Unfortunately we’re not the Chiefs, but when you’re a top 5 organization in the NFL for a decade plus, that level of consistency is going to get you a Lombardi, and maybe a few of them if luck strikes the right way. 

The HUGE mistake was drafting Basham. Not sure what they were thinking there but I knew it when the name was called. Another defensive lineman? That mistake became more apparent when they then felt they had to also go get Von Miller. At some point you have to draft offensive lineman. 

[IndyMark]

4 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

The HUGE mistake was drafting Basham. Not sure what they were thinking there but I knew it when the name was called. Another defensive lineman? That mistake became more apparent when they then felt they had to also go get Von Miller. At some point you have to draft offensive lineman. 

 

^^^ This.  Hard to argue here.  Yet, that ship has sailed, the question remains how to correct it?  Trade Oliver either for a OL in the same boat as him or for draft capital and use that for the OL.

 

Time for Beane to correct the mistakes.  No reason not to try.

[JROC INTEL]

I think it’s possible with these coaches, but a lot less likely. I was all for keeping all the coaches, because I believe in learning and growth along with stability. But this year has shown that maybe there is a cap to the ability to learn. I see a lot of the same mistakes over and over. Example: tossing a 30 yard pass on 3rd and 2. This is bad coaching. Hardly using any trick plays. This is coaching. 
 

i still think we have one of the best teams in the NFL but most of it is because of Josh. 
 

I believe we need a more physical team over coaching though, specifically linemen. At the end of the days, the players didn’t play well enough. 
 

the loss is on everyone. It was hard to watch, but we are still close, the mentality needs to be to get back to work and take the extra step. Get in the weight room. 

[SoCal Deek]

1 minute ago, IndyMark said:

 

^^^ This.  Hard to argue here.  Yet, that ship has sailed, the question remains how to correct it?  Trade Oliver either for a OL in the same boat as him or for draft capital and use that for the OL.

 

Time for Beane to correct the mistakes.  No reason not to try.

Beane and McD need to stop reading the press clippings. This team is not the best team in the league. They need to get back to work with this year’s draft. There’s a lot to be done. To me, it starts with the offensive line. If they don’t fix that, everything else is fool’s gold. Protect Josh Allen in the passing game and improve the running game to take pressure off Allen. If he goes down with an injury…it’s over! 

[Chaos]

18 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

while I trust these fellas to create a winning culture

Are you sure its the "winning culture" and not simply having Josh Allen as the QB?  Pretty much every team in the NFL would expect to make the playoffs every year with Allen as their QB. 

[Dr. Who]

Just now, Chaos said:

Are you sure its the "winning culture" and not simply having Josh Allen as the QB?  Pretty much every team in the NFL would expect to make the playoffs every year with Allen as their QB. 

Well, I'm not really referring to wins and losses with that phrase. Quite a few media folks have commented on the quality of the Bills' staff and the environment they have built. Before McD was hired, the franchise was in disarray and did not have a good reputation league wide. I think that has changed. While there are real issues with the current regime, I don't think it is right not to give them credit for the genuine achievements. (I've already indicated I doubt it is enough just as it is to win championships.)

[Chaos]

5 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

Well, I'm not really referring to wins and losses with that phrase. Quite a few media folks have commented on the quality of the Bills' staff and the environment they have built. Before McD was hired, the franchise was in disarray and did not have a good reputation league wide. I think that has changed. While there are real issues with the current regime, I don't think it is right not to give them credit for the genuine achievements. (I've already indicated I doubt it is enough just as it is to win championships.)

I guess I have a problem with any part of the measuring standard being the crappy Bills coaching staffs from yesteryear.  The standard is the current competition.  

Edited February 4, 2023 by Chaos

[Billsfan1972]

2 hours ago, elijah said:

Check the board for the first time since the Bengals game.. And you’re telling me that so far 70% of people (19-8 in the poll currently) think there’s a better chance that we don’t win a championship under McBeane and Allen? 

 

It was a rough playoff loss and embarrassing coaching, true. 

 

McDermott is still a top 8 coach in the league, true. 

 

Allen is still a top 3 quarterback in the league, true. 

 

McDermott & Allen are still a top 5 QB/Coach combo in the league, true. 

 

The first statement can be true at the same time as the next three. It’s unfortunate the way we lost, and it was outright embarrassing for the organization and the city & fans that invest their lives into this team for 5-6 months of the year, and others that do year round. But the amount of criticism I’ve seen surrounding Allen/McBeane since this loss is borderline unfathomable. Confidence and faith should still be very high that these guys bring us atleast 1 Lombardi, if not more.

 

I was having the same meltdown the day after the game, and maybe even a couple after that. But come on, it’s 2 weeks later. Level yourselves. The Bills are still in a very elite class of the NFL and have turned into a model organization. It’ll come. 

 

And on that note, I guess I’ll have to keep TBD out of my search bar a little longer if this is still the direction conversations are trending 😭 

Not sure McD is top 8.  I however think with Allen, more protection from the line and one more receiving weapon they certainly can win.

 

I too agree all the moping that Cincy & KC are "so much" better and that the Bills are now a notch below with a Jackson led Ravens, LA and Miami, NYJ and Peyton led Broncos.....  is wrong.  

 

Better coaching & scheming is needed from McD and his staff.

Edited February 4, 2023 by Billsfan1972

[Dr. Who]

8 minutes ago, Chaos said:

I guess I have a problem with any part of the measuring standard being the crappy Bills coaching staffs from yesteryear.  The standard is the current competition.  

That's fine. My guess is the BIlls organization is respected league wide relative to the rest of the NFL. I don't see McD as mediocre altogether. If you think he's the equvalent of JAG who just got lucky with Josh Allen, that is the lowest evaluation. I don't think that is accurate, but you can make that argument. I surmise the Pegulas value the character and style of leadership McD maintains on a day-to-day basis. All that is laudible, imo, but it doesn't justify keeping the status quo when the game day results for the post-season are largely disappointing. 

 

Edited February 4, 2023 by Dr. Who

[Freddie's Dead]

 

[Chaos]

55 minutes ago, elijah said:

And you’re telling me that so far 70% of people (19-8 in the poll currently) think there’s a better chance that we don’t win a championship under McBeane and Allen? 

Its more like do we have a Reeves/Elway situation of wasting nine years of a great QB, before getting Mike Shanahan and relatively promptly win a couple of Super Bowl?

[LABILLBACKER]

McDermott runs the whole show. He selected Beane, Frazier and Dorsey. The defensive scheme that has failed this team in 4 straight playoffs is his. Yes he's a man of high character,  culture and process. But beyond that his actual coaching skills leave alot to be desired. I realize why a small percentage of fans are terrified to return to a drought scenario if he is replaced.  But I'm 100x more terrified we'll waste the talents of the greatest qb Buffalo will ever see by keeping him and his failed associates around. But if your happy and content with winning regular season games then he's your Schottenheimer type leader. What's the point of competing if you don't strive for a championship. 

[Billznut]

5 minutes ago, Chaos said:

Its more like do we have a Reeves/Elway situation of wasting nine years of a great QB, before getting Mike Shanahan and relatively promptly win a couple of Super Bowl?

This may actually go down as an accurate analogy. 

[LABILLBACKER]

5 minutes ago, Billznut said:

This may actually go down as an accurate analogy. 

It is accurate and until we hire a dynamic offensive minded HC, it will be rinse & repeat every year.

[Ramza86]

I think we are 3 really good offensive lineman and one great slot WR away from really contending next season.

[US Egg]

Took Elway awhile to show he could win it all.

 

This hurrying Josh nonsense is just silliness.

[Dr. Who]

Just now, LABILLBACKER said:

McDermott runs the whole show. He selected Beane, Frazier and Dorsey. The defensive scheme that has failed this team in 4 straight playoffs is his. Yes he's a man of high character,  culture and process. But beyond that his actual coaching skills leave alot to be desired. I realize why a small percentage of fans are terrified to return to a drought scenario if he is replaced.  But I'm 100x more terrified we'll waste the talents of the greatest qb Buffalo will ever see by keeping him and his failed associates around. But if your happy and content with winning regular season games then he's your Schottenheimer type leader. What's the point of competing if you don't strive for a championship. 

I share the concern. Because I admire McDermott as a person and he is currently the coach of the Buffalo Bills, I hope he exceeds what appear to be his limits. All that said, Terry Pegula should have Ben Johnson on speed dial, because I suspect he is the next hot OC to get a shot at HC.

Just now, Ramza86 said:

I think we are 3 really good offensive lineman and one great slot WR away from really contending next season.

How confident are you Beane can pull off that requirement? That's the correct Rx, I agree.

[Chaos]

Just now, I am the egg man said:

Took Elway awhile to show he could win it all.

 

This hurrying Josh nonsense is just silliness.

You do understand Elway needed a HC change before he won it all? Or don't you know things?