PrimeTime101 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Phins are going to have one year of regression. Miami does not have the LBS and the S's for what he runs... and they wont be able to draft to adjust in one year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 minute ago, PrimeTime101 said: Phins are going to have one year of regression. Miami does not have the LBS and the S's for what he runs... and they wont be able to draft to adjust in one year Not to mention Tua will probably have to retire during the season after getting another concussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: Phins are going to have one year of regression. Miami does not have the LBS and the S's for what he runs... and they wont be able to draft to adjust in one year Fangio denied the report and said "nothing has been finalized" and now there is speculation he is heading to the 49ers instead. His longtime GF is a prominent eye surgeon there. Edited January 31, 2023 by Big Turk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Just now, Big Turk said: Fangio denied the report and said "nothing has been finalized" and now there is speculation he is heading to the 49ees instead thanks for the update 3 minutes ago, Doc said: Not to mention Tua will probably have to retire during the season after getting another concussion. lmao... word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 6 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Fangio denied the report and said "nothing has been finalized" and now there is speculation he is heading to the 49ers instead. His longtime GF is a prominent eye surgeon there. I heard he turned it down to go to Buffalo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) Now that Ryans is officially becoming the Texans' coach, I won't be the least bit surprised if Fangio is announced as the new DC of the 49ers imminently. I think that is the Domino he was waiting on, and why he didn't agree to terms with the Dolphins. Apparently, Fangio and Shanahan are very close. Edited January 31, 2023 by Logic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 13 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: I heard he turned it down to go to Buffalo. He is going to be the Bills news secondary coach 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 9 minutes ago, JohnNord said: He is going to be the Bills news secondary coach He can learn under Fraizer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 57 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: He can learn under Fraizer. If there's one thing the Fangio defense needs more of, it's corners playing 10 yards off on 3rd and 4. He can learn a lot under Frazier. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyBillsFan Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 On 1/31/2023 at 7:15 AM, John from Riverside said: To be clear, I have always liked Nick Fangio What about his brother, Vic? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97bills Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Kim and terry just write checks…. Beane and McDermott run the bills, only way anything ever happens is if we really suck and there hand is forced. We’re on this boat ride for good or bad!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 2 hours ago, newcam2012 said: I heard he turned it down to go to Buffalo. My brother's best friend's niece told his girlfriend's great uncle that his best friend's fathers friend thought the same thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Omg please let this be true that Fangio is going to the Niners lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Williams Available Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 May go to Broncos now too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) On 1/29/2023 at 6:46 PM, McBean said: Why is that? Wtf has Sean McDermott done here ? His in game coaching decisions are nothing short of pathetic. Our offense has regressed and our defense stinks (he’s a defensive guy.) We have already gotten passed by keeping a defensive minded clown who cost this team a Super Bowl last year by 13 seconds. Defend him. Please. weird how high he’s ranked for in game win probability for being so “pathetic” at it… What has he done here? Really? -he holds the best all-time winning percentage of any coach in Bills history -He broke a 17 year playoff drought his first season here. -Helped tear down and rebuilt this team from the ground up. -Built one of the best cultures in the NFL (according to the players). -Has only missed the playoffs once in 6 seasons and that was because it was year 1 of the rebuild. -He’s won the division 3 years in a row. In his 6 seasons here, he’s finished 1st in the division 3x, finished 2nd twice and 3rd once. -His defense have consistently ranked in the top of the league since he was hired, including being #1, #2 and #3. They’ve statistically been a top 6 defense every year but 1 (2020). -His offense have consistently ranked near the top of the NFL since 2020. -He put together the staff that drafted and developed Josh Allen. -He’s won 10 or more games in 4 of his 6 seasons here and won 13 games twice. The only time he ever finished without a winning record was the rebuild year. The Bills have started out the past 4 season with a 4-1 or better record. What other Bills head coach has accomplished more since the super bowl era began? Marv Levy maybe? McDermott has a better record but no Super Bowls. Levy had way more talent to work with though. McDermott may not have made it past the AFC championship game yet. But the only reason we are even a contender is because of what he put together here. It’s amazing how much our standards have been raised to even be able to say something like “what has McDermott done here?”… Edited February 1, 2023 by BillsFan4 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 33 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: weird how high he’s ranked for in game win probability for being so “pathetic” at it… What has he done here? Really? -he holds the best all-time winning percentage of any coach in Bills history -He broke a 17 year playoff drought his first season here. -Helped tear down and rebuilt this team from the ground up. -Built one of the best cultures in the NFL (according to the players). -Has only missed the playoffs once in 6 seasons and that was because it was year 1 of the rebuild. -He’s won the division 3 years in a row. In his 6 seasons here, he’s finished 1st in the division 3x, finished 2nd twice and 3rd once. -His defense have consistently ranked in the top of the league since he was hired, including being #1, #2 and #3. They’ve statistically been a top 6 defense every year but 1 (2020). -His offense have consistently ranked near the top of the NFL since 2020. -He put together the staff that drafted and developed Josh Allen. -He’s won 10 or more games in 4 of his 6 seasons here and won 13 games twice. The only time he ever finished without a winning record was the rebuild year. The Bills have started out the past 4 season with a 4-1 or better record. What other Bills head coach has accomplished more since the super bowl era began? Marv Levy maybe? McDermott has a better record but no Super Bowls. Levy had way more talent to work with though. McDermott may not have made it past the AFC championship game yet. But the only reason we are even a contender is because of what he put together here. It’s amazing how much our standards have been raised to even be able to say something like “what has McDermott done here?”… Great post. No one is FORCED to support McD as HC, but likewise NO ONE can deny McD's record (and team stats and analytics, including actual in-game coaching prowess) since taking over. A lot like Daboll did in NY/NJ this season, McD earned some credibility with that somewhat fluky playoff appearance in 2017. Both guys have demonstrable leadership chops. Now we will see if McD can truly continue to reflect/self-scout and grow in new ways, in a climate that absolutely DEMANDS INNOVATION of schemes married with optimization of roster traits/utilization. 2023 will tell us a lot, innit? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 I heard on NFL network that he refuted the rumor. These leaks can lead to embarrassment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 48 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: weird how high he’s ranked for in game win probability for being so “pathetic” at it… What has he done here? Really? -he holds the best all-time winning percentage of any coach in Bills history -He broke a 17 year playoff drought his first season here. -Helped tear down and rebuilt this team from the ground up. -Built one of the best cultures in the NFL (according to the players). -Has only missed the playoffs once in 6 seasons and that was because it was year 1 of the rebuild. -He’s won the division 3 years in a row. In his 6 seasons here, he’s finished 1st in the division 3x, finished 2nd twice and 3rd once. -His defense have consistently ranked in the top of the league since he was hired, including being #1, #2 and #3. They’ve statistically been a top 6 defense every year but 1 (2020). -His offense have consistently ranked near the top of the NFL since 2020. -He put together the staff that drafted and developed Josh Allen. -He’s won 10 or more games in 4 of his 6 seasons here and won 13 games twice. The only time he ever finished without a winning record was the rebuild year. The Bills have started out the past 4 season with a 4-1 or better record. What other Bills head coach has accomplished more since the super bowl era began? Marv Levy maybe? McDermott has a better record but no Super Bowls. Levy had way more talent to work with though. McDermott may not have made it past the AFC championship game yet. But the only reason we are even a contender is because of what he put together here. It’s amazing how much our standards have been raised to even be able to say something like “what has McDermott done here?”… So the drafting of Josh Allen and departure of Tom Brady has nothing to do with it? Beat up on horrible afc east teams and choked crucial games to cost us #1 seeds (jax and jets.) Folded like a table in playoff games. Emphasis on defense and his defense isn’t even good. Gets shredded by good QB’s and bailed out by a star QB in Allen. Again, we could coach Josh Allen to 10+ wins. Give me a freakin break…He’s Doug Collins. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, McBean said: So the drafting of Josh Allen and departure of Tom Brady has nothing to do with it? Beat up on horrible afc east teams and choked crucial games to cost us #1 seeds (jax and jets.) Folded like a table in playoff games. Emphasis on defense and his defense isn’t even good. Gets shredded by good QB’s and bailed out by a star QB in Allen. Again, we could coach Josh Allen to 10+ wins. Give me a freakin break…He’s Doug Collins. You’re acting like Josh Allen came into the NFL as a super star QB and has been one McDermott’s entire time in Buffalo (he hasn’t). You’re also acting like the defense has been trash his whole time here (it hasn’t). You said “wtf has McDermott done here” and “defense him please”. i think I gave a pretty good defense. Our division has not been trash either. In McDermott’s 6 seasons in Buffalo the Patriots have gone 13-3, 12-4, 11-5, 10-6, 9-8 and 8-9 (so, 1 losing season). The dolphins have won 10, 9 and 9 games the last 3 seasons. The Jets have been mediocre. Overall, The AFC East has not been near the worst division for a while. They are somewhere between the middle and top. You also seem to be failing to mention some pretty great playoff wins and just focusing on the few rough losses (and only a couple were bad performances). I’m not saying we shouldn’t question McDermott but acting like he’s terrible is s little extreme. By any measure he’s been one of the better coaches in the NFL for a while now. Ok, let me ask this - were you so down on McDermott before this year’s playoffs? Were you calling him garbage and saying he should be fired when he finished the season 13-3? Edited February 1, 2023 by BillsFan4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 2 hours ago, BillsFan4 said: weird how high he’s ranked for in game win probability for being so “pathetic” at it… What has he done here? Really? -he holds the best all-time winning percentage of any coach in Bills history -He broke a 17 year playoff drought his first season here. -Helped tear down and rebuilt this team from the ground up. -Built one of the best cultures in the NFL (according to the players). -Has only missed the playoffs once in 6 seasons and that was because it was year 1 of the rebuild. -He’s won the division 3 years in a row. In his 6 seasons here, he’s finished 1st in the division 3x, finished 2nd twice and 3rd once. -His defense have consistently ranked in the top of the league since he was hired, including being #1, #2 and #3. They’ve statistically been a top 6 defense every year but 1 (2020). -His offense have consistently ranked near the top of the NFL since 2020. -He put together the staff that drafted and developed Josh Allen. -He’s won 10 or more games in 4 of his 6 seasons here and won 13 games twice. The only time he ever finished without a winning record was the rebuild year. The Bills have started out the past 4 season with a 4-1 or better record. What other Bills head coach has accomplished more since the super bowl era began? Marv Levy maybe? McDermott has a better record but no Super Bowls. Levy had way more talent to work with though. McDermott may not have made it past the AFC championship game yet. But the only reason we are even a contender is because of what he put together here. It’s amazing how much our standards have been raised to even be able to say something like “what has McDermott done here?”… Id trade all of that for 1 Super Bowl. Dont care about the regular season victories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 59 minutes ago, Einstein said: Id trade all of that for 1 Super Bowl. Dont care about the regular season victories. Sure, championships are now the bottom line, but there are ALWAYS metrics by which we can evaluate performances among a pool of everyone else who didn't win. It's not like every team who doesn't win the SB each season is somehow rendered equally inept once the season ends. Despite the post-hoc narrative, the SB does not crown 1 celebrated, championship-caliber team while also by default designating 31 equally undeserving also-rans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 4 hours ago, Einstein said: Id trade all of that for 1 Super Bowl. Of course we all would. But switching out coaches is far from a guarantee of that. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 11 hours ago, Einstein said: Id trade all of that for 1 Super Bowl. Dont care about the regular season victories. I would too. Who wouldn’t? But it obviously doesn’t work that way. Regular season victories + success usually comes before SB victories. What Bills coach established that type of expectations for the fan base? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 7 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Of course we all would. But switching out coaches is far from a guarantee of that. True. 10 hours ago, Richard Noggin said: Sure, championships are now the bottom line, but there are ALWAYS metrics by which we can evaluate performances among a pool of everyone else who didn't win. It's not like every team who doesn't win the SB each season is somehow rendered equally inept once the season ends. Despite the post-hoc narrative, the SB does not crown 1 celebrated, championship-caliber team while also by default designating 31 equally undeserving also-rans. You're right. And if this was year 3, I'd agree with you. In fact, I DID agree with you after year 3. But we are now entering year 6. And we really need to start seeing some growth as far as blunders go in the playoffs. Even a deep playoff loss where we simply lost because the other team got lucky, or some other issue that doesn't involve coaching making several blunders like 13 Seconds and the issues we saw against Cinci (twice). My biggest problem is that the same issues keep happening year after year after year. And to watch KC, with a worse defense, but a HOF coach, absolutely shut down Cinci's attack, is disheartening. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 He's going back to Denver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pocoboy Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 16 hours ago, BillsFan4 said: weird how high he’s ranked for in game win probability for being so “pathetic” at it… Do me a favor - if this team does make the playoffs next year, request a meeting with him and show him this chart. He obviously forgot he ranked up there in the two games he where got outcoached recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 On 1/29/2023 at 1:56 PM, Chas56 said: Brady and Rodgers are like milk that is past its use by date. Yeah, you can drink it, but any day it’s gonna go sour. Rodgers is probably more like almond milk, or something. Milk would throw off his chakras. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsDad51 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 Pro Football Talk confirms Fangio to Dolphins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 58 minutes ago, BillsDad51 said: Pro Football Talk confirms Fangio to Dolphins. I just saw that. Boo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 Who knew what a great coach, Brandon Staley, the analytics darling was? LMAO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 4 hours ago, jkeerie said: I just saw that. Boo! It won't matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 Just now, Big Turk said: It won't matter. Hope you're right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 13 hours ago, jkeerie said: Hope you're right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 Well, yeah, but Tua accounted for 10 of them.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Chandler#81 said: Well, yeah, but Tua accounted for 10 of them.. Would have been more, but in his addled state, he forgot to take off his socks and count higher...😇 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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