blacklabel Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 They weren't on the same page today. If they hit that first target it's a different game. But you also noticed Josh was frustrated with where Diggs was taking his routes a few times. One play they missed on Josh was trying to say he should've gone up when he cut toward the sideline instead. But besides that...Diggs looked like the only one with a fire in him today. Everyone else felt like doldrums just staring at the turf, felt weird. Hate these kinda games. The hot takes are worse tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Roundybout said: Diggs has been so close to the Super Bowl his entire career. It's understandable that he's pissed. Diggs plays on an entire team of guys who have been close for 4 years now. He is no more pissed off than they are. They just didnt act like petulant children. Everyone on that sideline has worked for it and is hurting. He just made it about himself. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 I’m ready to stop pretending Justin Jefferson for Stefon Diggs was a win - win trade. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetou Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: I doubt Diggs stays. He wants to win and he’s not putting up with this crap anymore. Isn't he signed through '27? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulsabillsfanz Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 29 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: I wouldn't be surprised if Diggs makes some ultimatums this off-season. New OC or signing a big time WR. Something. There's no way he's going to go along with the same old thing next year We should sign or draft a big time WR. If we do, he will get a lot of targets & Diggs will throw his sideline tantrums about that. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 29 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: I wouldn't be surprised if Diggs makes some ultimatums this off-season. New OC or signing a big time WR. Something. There's no way he's going to go along with the same old thing next year If he does I hope they trade him to Houston. He is 1/53rd of a team. What has Stefon Diggs won in his time in the league to start demanding a new OC? GIve me a break. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Chuck Wagon said: I’m ready to stop pretending Justin Jefferson for Stefon Diggs was a win - win trade. It was. Both produce at a high level and both are home for different reasons that have absolutely zero to do with them. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Don’t blame Diggs at all. When you have a stud like Diggs just Throw him the damn ball! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) Diggs is the best WR the Bills have ever had. I don’t need the silliness on the sidelines but I'm never going to be mad at a guy for wanting to win. No matter what we need this guy so fix it and figure out how to get these guys some help Edited January 23, 2023 by Brianmoorman4jesus 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: If he does I hope they trade him to Houston. He is 1/53rd of a team. What has Stefon Diggs won in his time in the league to start demanding a new OC? GIve me a break. Like Josh he accounts for way more than 1/53rd 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codyny13 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 I always love ppl making things out of nothing. I’m literally screaming at the TV, punching pillows but the guys on the team actually playing and losing their season right in front of them and having no control over it are supposed to relax and just let it happen, show no emotion? Cmon man, Diggs is a stud, a great teammate, and a competitor. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 This is a non issue. Competitive guys emotions boiling over. They are brothers and will be good by tomorrow. The bigger issue is the general well being of the offense, which falls on the scheme/coordinator. I wouldn’t be surprised if Diggs were yelling: ”What the hell are we doing? Why aren’t we getting me open? Can’t we block for this dude long enough to hit me deep?!” 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 hour ago, nucci said: he's pissed because they played like crap and he's a prima donna? He should be pissed! This scheme and Dorsey can’t figure ways to get him the ball. Pay me millions and I’ll devise plays, schemes, audibles etc. there’s zero creativity or movement. Nothing! For god sake Cincy put Chase in the backfield to get him the ball. Do something, but we never do. Run the play, if he’s not open go to the next read. BS, do something 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 8 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said: I’m ready to stop pretending Justin Jefferson for Stefon Diggs was a win - win trade. It was win win. But in hindsight Jefferson is more special than Diggs. A t the time of the trade all that pick represented was potential. The Vikings cleared some cap space for potential, a talented player on a cost controlled deal. The pick turned out to be a home run. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0017 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: This is a non issue. Competitive guys emotions boiling over. They are brothers and will be good by tomorrow. The bigger issue is the general well being of the offense, which falls on the scheme/coordinator. I wouldn’t be surprised if Diggs were yelling: ”What the hell are we doing? Why aren’t we getting me open? Can’t we block for this dude long enough to hit me deep?!” Are they brothers and all will all be good tomorrow? I feel like they’ve had a strained working relationship at best for the last 6 plus games. God I hope I’m wrong! But if I’m right and this is the start of problems, Beane needs to move him for something while he can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrivefourfive Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 I love Diggs. He’s the heart and soul of this team. He’s a leader of men, and he knows his performance gives the Bills the best chance to win. Maybe those two go over stiff during the week, tweeks, and when it’s game time, Dorsey has Josh’s head so convoluted with awful play calling schemes, Josh isn’t giving Diggs what they both agreed on earlier in the week that would work. So many times today, they played off Diggs 10+ yds, and Josh double pumped to him. Too little too late. I think Diggs wanted the ball NOW, and moving so he could get some easy YAC. Just my opinion. Diggs frustration about getting blown out in a home playoff game is the absolute least of my worries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Diggs left before the coaches even got to the tunnel, was talked into coming back by Duke Johnson but then left again after a few minutes. Not a great look for a team captain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrivefourfive Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Diggs left before the coaches even got to the tunnel, was talked into coming back by Duke Johnson but then left again after a few minutes. Not a great look for a team captain. Not a good look for the COACHES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nator99 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 15 minutes ago, Tulsabillsfanz said: We should sign or draft a big time WR. If we do, he will get a lot of targets & Diggs will throw his sideline tantrums about that. Diggs is not going to take to well to that. You need to keep Diggs happy and well fed. The guy will go off and become a locker room cancer if not taken care of. Why are you guys acting suprised ? We know this about Diggs. He is a selfish guy to his core and not a team guy but he is the best we got and we must keep him happy. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 23, 2023 Author Share Posted January 23, 2023 20 minutes ago, blacklabel said: They weren't on the same page today. If they hit that first target it's a different game. But you also noticed Josh was frustrated with where Diggs was taking his routes a few times. One play they missed on Josh was trying to say he should've gone up when he cut toward the sideline instead. But besides that...Diggs looked like the only one with a fire in him today. Everyone else felt like doldrums just staring at the turf, felt weird. Hate these kinda games. The hot takes are worse tho. It's nuts to suggest the whole game would have been different if Allen had hit that early pass to Diggs. That's 1 play. If he had, it would have been a TD. He overthrew him and that was that. Has no impact on the game as a whole. Josh was not good today. He was confused. He wasn't finding targets to throw to. I'm not sure why, as we can't see downfield on TV. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 20 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said: I’m ready to stop pretending Justin Jefferson for Stefon Diggs was a win - win trade. Dang, you said it out loud! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, Thrivefourfive said: I love Diggs. He’s the heart and soul of this team. He’s a leader of men, and he knows his performance gives the Bills the best chance to win. Maybe those two go over stiff during the week, tweeks, and when it’s game time, Dorsey has Josh’s head so convoluted with awful play calling schemes, Josh isn’t giving Diggs what they both agreed on earlier in the week that would work. So many times today, they played off Diggs 10+ yds, and Josh double pumped to him. Too little too late. I think Diggs wanted the ball NOW, and moving so he could get some easy YAC. Just my opinion. Diggs frustration about getting blown out in a home playoff game is the absolute least of my worries. Nah, leaders don’t leave their team all alone when things are bad. Just now, Nextmanup said: It's nuts to suggest the whole game would have been different if Allen had hit that early pass to Diggs. That's 1 play. If he had, it would have been a TD. He overthrew him and that was that. Has no impact on the game as a whole. Josh was not good today. He was confused. He wasn't finding targets to throw to. I'm not sure why, as we can't see downfield on TV. I got flamed for mentioning it a few weeks ago, but Allen’s metrics against zone are near the bottom of the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Diggs left before the coaches even got to the tunnel, was talked into coming back by Duke Johnson but then left again after a few minutes. Not a great look for a team captain. He was in the locker room when McDermott addressed the team, per McDermott. I’m more concerned how both lines looked during the actual game. And the lack of a consistent second WR. As long as Diggs doesn’t let his frustration cause him to get arrested for something he’ll be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakrider Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Diggs is a great receiver but if he wants to continually put himself first over the team then he's more of a detriment than asset. I also recall how he was invisible last year in KC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: It's nuts to suggest the whole game would have been different if Allen had hit that early pass to Diggs. That's 1 play. If he had, it would have been a TD. He overthrew him and that was that. Has no impact on the game as a whole. Josh was not good today. He was confused. He wasn't finding targets to throw to. I'm not sure why, as we can't see downfield on TV. I don't know why this isnt a larger complaint from fans. Like why the heck are we not allowed to see WRs running routes and crap? The zoom in on the lines every damn play just dumbs the entire game down so that we have to "wait for the replay" to see what actually happened and most of the time we don't even get that. Edited January 23, 2023 by What a Tuel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 A bunch of nothing. Super Bowl favorites falling short of the goal, losing at home in the playoffs. Tempers are sure to flare. This is football. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrivefourfive Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 11 minutes ago, Mango said: Nah, leaders don’t leave their team all alone when things are bad. You there? No clue how over/under exaggerated that report is. No idea what actually took place and how. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, Thrivefourfive said: You there? No clue how over/under exaggerated that report is. No idea what actually took place and how. Are you there? How would you “know” Diggs is a “leader of men”? What a silly message board argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, dakrider said: Diggs is a great receiver but if he wants to continually put himself first over the team then he's more of a detriment than asset. I also recall how he was invisible last year in KC. You'll have to explain where he is continually doing that. I've not heard any of that, but I don't search for it either. Edited January 23, 2023 by CoudyBills 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somnus00 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 If both of our lines had Diggs' fire, we win this game. I wish we had more like him. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, CoudyBills said: You're a piece of work. You start stuff and then passive aggressively lash out at the responses. Dude what? Start stuff? I simply responded to a claim you made. You said he was a leader of men. I said leaders don’t leave their team You asked me if I was there, and how I would know. I said that’s a dumb response. None of us are there. Then held your statement to the same question, are you there, so how do you know? Now you’re name calling and becoming accusatory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrivefourfive Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Mango said: Are you there? How would you “know” Diggs is a “leader of men”? What a silly message board argument. I’ve seen plenty of instances on TV of him on the sidelines firing up his teammates. Or you can call his rallying cries post Hamlin injury selfish. But I’m not going to find all your gifs and clips to prove them. Like you said, it’s a silly internet “argument” (conversation), so feel the need to withdraw, sir. Good day Edited January 23, 2023 by Thrivefourfive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr8billsfan Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Nextmanup said: I'm not asking why might these 2 disagree. I'm asking what was the incident in the game today. I didn't see it on TV, though I did record and will watch again. Romp commented on the incident. Saying Diggs was claiming he was open but after the play broke up. Romo said pretty close to the fact that, “Josh went through his progressions. Diggs was covered and even the safety had a read on him. I mean once the play breaks up someone eventually gets open. It was just too late.” Diggs can get the ball if Allen’s pocket doesn’t collapse in 0.2 seconds 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astb41 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 I noticed this immediately after the 4th down play from the stands and watched Diggs the entire time. He was barking at Josh. It definitely looked like he wanted to walk to the locker room right then and there. Players including Dawkins were talking to him and hugged him and got him to finish out the game. Shortly after what was shown in that CBS clip he grabbed and assistant and looked at the tablet for like 3 seconds and threw his hands up again and kept talking. I’m guessing the tablet gave him an angle that confirmed how wide open he was. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 31 minutes ago, Mango said: Nah, leaders don’t leave their team all alone when things are bad. This, IMO. If you’re truly my slime, my friend, you’re there for the bad times, you don’t bail 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Just now, Thrivefourfive said: I’ve seen plenty of instances on TV of him on the sidelines firing up his teammates. Or you can call his rallying cries post Hamlin injury selfish. But I’m not going to find all your gifs and clips to proof them. Like you said, it’s a silly internet “argument” (conversation), so feel the need to withdraw, sir. Good day I meant argument as in “are you there” being a silly response. It’s a fine topic. Leadership is so much more than what happens in the 3 hours between whistles. I’ve lost a lot of respect for a guy who runs out of the building when things are at their lowest. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, gr8billsfan said: Romp commented on the incident. Saying Diggs was claiming he was open but after the play broke up. Romo said pretty close to the fact that, “Josh went through his progressions. Diggs was covered and even the safety had a read on him. I mean once the play breaks up someone eventually gets open. It was just too late.” Diggs can get the ball if Allen’s pocket doesn’t collapse in 0.2 seconds Thanks! Yeah, Diggs needs to take a Chill Pill and understand that he isn’t necessarily open when the QB has to throw the ball 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M. Wrotto Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Diggs is the best player on this team. I’d be pissed too. Josh simply had no time to look for Diggs. Our O Line is bottom 5 in the league for years 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 47 minutes ago, Thrivefourfive said: I love Diggs. He’s the heart and soul of this team. He’s a leader of men, and he knows his performance gives the Bills the best chance to win. I think all of this with Diggs is probably overblown - but I have to take exception to the idea that a leader of men would beat feet out of the locker room ahead of the men he is purportedly leading. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrivefourfive Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, Mango said: I meant argument as in “are you there” being a silly response. It’s a fine topic. Leadership is so much more than what happens in the 3 hours between whistles. I’ve lost a lot of respect for a guy who runs out of the building when things are at their lowest. I’m hearing you. What are your ideas about where leadership should be happening/coming from here with the Bills? Obviously Allen has to be the Alpha, but he needs a room of Alphas as well. I can agree that Diggs being a WR isn’t ideal, I’m partially saying he’s the heart and soul of this team due to void. And he being pass/catch butt buddies with Allen compromises Allen’s effectiveness to lead if he’s off dealing with Diggs (who I honestly believe wants to win over selfishness). I went to a few Dallas training camps. I’m sure you’ve been around practices well. Thing that smacked me upside the head with team chemistry was every single player on the practice field KNEW who was boss — Tyron Smith. He walked, you walked. He stopped, you stopped. I was on a senior heavy, leadership rich varsity team as a sophomore and THAT WAS THE TEAM. We went with them anywhere, anytime. And unfortunately, none of this is coming from a coaching staff, which can play out okay, IF the Alpha players buy into that staff as a whole. Buffalo needs these guys. They need bullies. Interested to hear your thoughts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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