AP Coach of the Year <Poll>

[smward8]

I'm not buying the Shanghai votes.  A great defense, really good multi purpose guys in Diego and, later in the year, CMC make it easier on a new QB.  Ask Brady how many games the Pasties defense won

[Phils n Bills]

Probably going to be Daboll or Pederson solely on football, however, it really should be McDermott with everything this team and city has gone through and somehow they’re still in it. If he doesn’t win coach of the year, he certainly deserves man of the year. 

[SoTier]

If you had any doubts about the truth of the old adage, "coaching matters", 2022 has to change your mind. 

• Brian Daboll with the Giants 
• Doug Pedersen with the Jags  
• Dan Campbell with the Lions
• Pete Carroll with the Seahawks 

Not only did all four of these HCs turn their teams around with 3 of them making the playoffs and 2 of them winning a playoff game, but all of them resurrected the careers of their starting QBs.

 

Sean McDermott has kept his team winning despite some significant injuries on defense plus a series of events that could have been derailed many teams.

Kyle Shanahan has kept his team winning despite losing two starting QBs.

Andy Reid has kept his team winning despite the departure of Tyreek Hill, which was supposed to be KC's fatal flaw.

Nick Siriani has managed to keep his team atop the NFC despite losing hisnstarting QB for nearly month at the end of the season.

 

I voted for Daboll, mostly because of how Daniel Jones has blossomed under his tutelage, but I will have no complaints for any of the above winning it.  I think Daboll and Pedersen are the most likely to win simply because their teams -- and their QBs -- have already exceeded expectations by so much, but a Super Bowl win could very well give the honor to McDermott, Shanahan, Reid or Siriani.

 

[Punching Bag]

11 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said:

Shanahan turned Mr. Irrelevant into Filet Mignon.  

 

Well he was not an UDFA like other teams have turned into very serviceable QBs.

 

Frankly the draft is a turkey shoot with many busts some killed by coaches and others destroyed by impatient GMs.

10 hours ago, Coffeesforclosers said:

Daboll, and it's not even close.

 

The beginning of the Sean McDermott coaching tree. 

 

Despite Daboll being remodeled by being on McDermott's staff others will get credit.

This despite him not using strengths of other coaches he worked for (i.e. Beli-CHEAT's cheating).

Daboll would not be a candidate if he did not change even having Josh Allen as QB.

[LeGOATski]

8 hours ago, Phils n Bills said:

Probably going to be Daboll or Pederson solely on football, however, it really should be McDermott with everything this team and city has gone through and somehow they’re still in it. If he doesn’t win coach of the year, he certainly deserves man of the year. 

Seriously. People are naming coaches simply because of their roster, but it's not all about roster. Looking back, McDermott had a terrible roster his first year and got to the playoffs, broke the drought, completely changed the culture of a franchise. He got to the AFCCG in Josh's 3rd year. Was the roster amazing then? It was certainly much better, but wasn't on the level of other teams like KC yet. It's also a roster he helped build, so applicable credit given there.

 

This year has been super rough on so many levels (strength of schedule, injuries, off-field hardships, weather,...) and he's done an amazing job. It's the full body of work, not just what kind of roster they had.

[GunnerBill]

Daboll is going to win in a landslide. Doug Pederson has done a great job taking the Jags from worst to first but bad division and there IS some talent on that team not least their QB. That Giants team is a classic overachiever that has been really well coached all year. 

[machine gun kelly]

As much there is an argument for Dabs and everyone else on the list, I chose pederson.  My reasoning is the Jags have been perpetual Lakers like the Giants, but Pederson took over a nightmare from Urban Meyer last year.  The same argument could be made for Dabs.

 

In a way, I can see McD how he navigated through so many obstacles, but the Bills were expected to be SB contenders.  For me 2020 should have gone to McD.

[The Red King]

Gotta be Daboll.  His 1st season is eerily similar to McD's.  Change the culture and take a team nobody expected to the playoffs where they really shouldn't be, based on the roster.

 

Then he one-upped him by winning his first playoff game against a tough Vikings team that seemed to have a horseshoe crammed up its rear all season.  Blame whatever you want, but we didn't beat them.  Giants did.

 

It's rare, but I think this year's CotY is obvious.

[Albany,n.y.]

9 hours ago, Limeaid said:

 

Well he was not an UDFA like other teams have turned into very serviceable QBs.

 

Frankly the draft is a turkey shoot with many busts some killed by coaches and others destroyed by impatient GMs.

 

 

When was the last time one of the Super Bowl final 4 within a conference or a top 2 seed has started a rookie 7th rounder or UFA QB?  I can't think of any prior to Purdy.  To have a late round/UFA rookie QB this ready is unheard of.  Even Brady was a 2nd year player as a 6th rounder the year before and had a full season riding the bench as the team's 4th string QB.  

 

 

Edited January 19, 2023 by Albany,n.y.

[Rico]

On 1/18/2023 at 12:12 PM, Albany,n.y. said:

Let's get real.  The clear winner is Kyle Shanahan, and when the real votes are in that's who will win in a landslide. Shanahan won his division, got the #2 seed & was undefeated in games started by the last player taken in the 2022 draft, QB Brock Purdy.  He's on his 3rd QB and winning with a guy who never started an NFL game before he went in late in December.

 

The poll above is the ultimate homer vote.  Daboll did a good job, but he had the 3rd best record in his own division.  Here's a dose of reality: The Giants were closer to last place in the NFC East than 1st place.  The biggest thing Daboll did was prove that Joe Judge had no business ever being a head coach in the NFL.  Daboll got a decent season out of the #6 overall pick, it's just not the same as winning with Mr. Irrelevant in his rookie year. 

He’s played a major part in 2 Super Bowl big failures, best to wait until after the season is over before giving him a vote.

[Chicken Boo]

Daboll, Pederson, Carroll or Shanahan.  No way you can reasonably put McDermott over any of them, try as you may.

Edited January 19, 2023 by Chicken Boo

[Albany,n.y.]

3 hours ago, The Red King said:

Gotta be Daboll.  His 1st season is eerily similar to McD's.  Change the culture and take a team nobody expected to the playoffs where they really shouldn't be, based on the roster.

 

Then he one-upped him by winning his first playoff game against a tough Vikings team that seemed to have a horseshoe crammed up its rear all season.  Blame whatever you want, but we didn't beat them.  Giants did.

 

It's rare, but I think this year's CotY is obvious.

It's obviously Shanahan & the playoff game was after the votes were all in.  All the Daboll is a lock folks will be sorely disappointed when the voters from the entire nation & not just followers of east coast teams vote.  I wouldn't be surprised if Daboll finishes behind a coach in his own division, Nick Sirianni, who is the likely runner up.  Daboll might also end up behind Kevin O'Connell.  A 9-7-1 record while finishing 3rd in the division is not Coach of the Year material.  

Just now, Rico said:

He’s played a major part in 2 Super Bowl big failures, best to wait until after the season is over before giving him a vote.

But they vote when the season ends, so the playoffs don't count towards Coach Of The Year.  If they waited the Super Bowl winning coach would win every year.  

[blitzboy54]

On 1/17/2023 at 10:47 PM, bobobonators said:

Who do you think should win? My vote is for Daboll:

 

1. He inherited a team with almost no talent outside Saquon Barkley and currently has them in the 2nd round of the playoffs. 

2. He turned Danny Dimes into a threat at QB and legitimately makes him look like a poor-man’s Allen. 

3. His already talent-deprived team was further decimated by injuries - especially at WR, and they basically have an entire new WR Corps from Week 1 and are all performing at a high level. It’s super impressive. 

 

4. Daboll’s massive watermelons between his legs set the tone for the season week 1 when his team went up agains the Titans, who were 12-5 last season, and instead of playing to not lose, he played to win and went for 2 late in the game with a minute left to win the game. 
 

I miss that man. Im very happy for him. He deserves to win AP Coach of the Year. 
 

 

The exact same thing McD did in 2017 after (checks notes) 17 year playoff drought. But New York I guess. 

 

 

Nobody has overcome more than Buffalo this year. Tops, Dawson's brother, Micah, first snow storm (3 games in 12 days), Von, Second storm (killed 40 people and stuck in Chicago), then Damar. I just don't understand how he's not in consideration. 

[wjag]

I gave my vote to Pederson..  Pretty remarkable turn around there.  

[BillsFan4]

I would say Daboll or Shanahan. Daboll for all the reasons listed in the first post and Shanahan because he keeps losing starting QBs and offensive+defensive coordinators but his team just continues to roll. What he’s done with Brock Purdy (the last pick of this past draft) has been impressive.

[Mr. WEO]

Campbell.   That's a top 5 Offense they have now.  With the QB that the HOF HC in LA kicked to the curb.  With Jamaal Williams as their feature back. They won 3 games last year.  Won 9 this year with the worst Defense.  Embarrassed Aaron Rodgers in the Cornpone Coliseum---despite nothing to play for as they were  Kept out of the playoffs because of the atrocity the refs committed allowing Geno Smith into the playoffs.

 

This an easy one.

[Alphadawg7]

On 1/17/2023 at 7:47 PM, bobobonators said:

Who do you think should win? My vote is for Daboll:

 

1. He inherited a team with almost no talent outside Saquon Barkley and currently has them in the 2nd round of the playoffs. 

2. He turned Danny Dimes into a threat at QB and legitimately makes him look like a poor-man’s Allen. 

3. His already talent-deprived team was further decimated by injuries - especially at WR, and they basically have an entire new WR Corps from Week 1 and are all performing at a high level. It’s super impressive. 

 

4. Daboll’s massive watermelons between his legs set the tone for the season week 1 when his team went up agains the Titans, who were 12-5 last season, and instead of playing to not lose, he played to win and went for 2 late in the game with a minute left to win the game. 
 

I miss that man. Im very happy for him. He deserves to win AP Coach of the Year. 
 

 

No disrespect, but I think its a crime you didn't list McD on this list.  IMHO he absolutely deserves to be on this poll, and really should be a top 3 candidate IMHO.

 

Daboll is a clear top choice, he has done more with less than any coach in the league this year.  But McD would be 2nd or 3rd IMHO. 

 

McD coached this team through the horrible things that have happened to the city of Buffalo, Matt Araiza situation, Knox's brother dying just before the season, Hamlin, and all the injuries and to be just 8 points away from a perfect season in one heck of a coaching job.  

[bobobonators]

2 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

No disrespect, but I think its a crime you didn't list McD on this list.  IMHO he absolutely deserves to be on this poll, and really should be a top 3 candidate IMHO.

 

Daboll is a clear top choice, he has done more with less than any coach in the league this year.  But McD would be 2nd or 3rd IMHO. 

 

McD coached this team through the horrible things that have happened to the city of Buffalo, Matt Araiza situation, Knox's brother dying just before the season, Hamlin, and all the injuries and to be just 8 points away from a perfect season in one heck of a coaching job.  

Hard to argue against any of what you said. like I said in another post. I probably should have listed him, but I left him, Andy Reid, and Taylor off bc they were heavy favorites to win the SB. The rosters of the Bills, Bengals and Chiefs are pretty stacked. 
 

The only way McD or Andy should win that award is if they at least go to the Super Bowl. Thats my opinion. And I think the award is announced before the Super Bowl to honor the accomplishments during the regular season so I simply see no way they win coach of the year. 
 

As I said in another post, I’d rather have no one else be HC of the Bills. 

[Alphadawg7]

6 minutes ago, bobobonators said:

Hard to argue against any of what you said. like I said in another post. I probably should have listed him, but I left him, Andy Reid, and Taylor off bc they were heavy favorites to win the SB. The rosters of the Bills, Bengals and Chiefs are pretty stacked. 
 

The only way McD or Andy should win that award is if they at least go to the Super Bowl. Thats my opinion. And I think the award is announced before the Super Bowl to honor the accomplishments during the regular season so I simply see no way they win coach of the year. 
 

As I said in another post, I’d rather have no one else be HC of the Bills. 

 

Yeah, I think the voting is done before the playoffs start actually because it only incorporates regular season.  

 

On one hand, you would think postseason performance should be factored in too...but then the award would more often than not just go to the SB winner and overlook guys who may not make it as far, but maybe were as deserving or more for what they accomplished with less to work with.  

 

I just think if everyone is taking all factors into consideration, McD (who most people have cooled on the quality of the Bills roster in terms of it being the best roster) being 8 points away from an undefeated season under all the conditions he has had navigate this season for the team is hands down one of the best coaching jobs of the year.  

 

If I had a vote, I would vote Daboll just given how bad that team performed with mostly the same roster before him and how he turned it around so fast.  But my next vote would be to McD followed by Pete Carrol who you also don't have on your list. 

Edited January 19, 2023 by Alphadawg7

[bobobonators]

1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Yeah, I think the voting is done before the playoffs start actually because it only incorporates regular season.  

 

On one hand, you would think postseason performance should be factored in too...but then the award would more often than not just go to the SB winner and overlook guys who may not make it as far, but maybe were as deserving or more for what they accomplished with less to work with.  

 

I just think if everyone is taking all factors into consideration, McD (who most people have cooled on the quality of the Bills roster in terms of it being the best roster) being 8 points away from an undefeated season under all the conditions he has had navigate this season for the team is hands down one of the best coaching jobs of the year.  

 

If I had a vote, I would vote Daboll just given how bad that team performed with mostly the same roster before him and how he turned it around so fast.  But my next vote would be to McD followed by Pete Carrol.  

All good points

[Max Fischer]

McDermott. He met ridiculously high expectations, only three losses by eight points, overcame numerous internal and external challenges and still favored to win the SB.  

 

Daboll and a few others are worthy but McDermott is most deserving. 

On 1/18/2023 at 12:37 AM, That&#x27;s No Moon said:

Shanahan is on his 3rd QB and the team is better now than they were in September.

 

Shanahan deserves high praise and has an outstanding system, but overcoming QB injuries might have more to say about Garrapollo.

[Alphadawg7]

23 minutes ago, bobobonators said:

All good points

 

Thanks, and I don't blame your poll choices, those are the ones most talked about.  I actually think its a shame that both McD and Pete Carroll are not getting more COY love.  

[BullBuchanan]

Daboll was the lock until Brock Purdy came along. To storm into the playoffs as a SB favorite with your 3rd string QB is an all-time great accomplishment. I don't know if anyone can stop SF right now. Daboll's story of turning around a ***** team and taking NYG to the playoffs for the first time in 6 years with the exact same talent they had last year when they went 4-13 is awesome, but Shanahan is writing a story that will get him to the HoF this season.

McD isn't even on the board for me. The bills were supposed to roll this year, and instead they mostly limped through. Props for showing heart and winning tough games, but they made most of it look way harder than they should have. Maybe they'll have enough gas in the tank to still win it all, but they were a much more impressive looking team in each of the past two years than they were this year from my perspective.

Edited January 19, 2023 by BullBuchanan

[BullBuchanan]

2 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Thanks, and I don't blame your poll choices, those are the ones most talked about.  I actually think its a shame that both McD and Pete Carroll are not getting more COY love.  

If Seattle doesn't go 3-5 over their last 8, he probably gets more credit. As it stands I think he's in the argument for 3rd behind Daboll. NYG's cupboard was bare, and the Seahawks still had a lot of talent outside QB, including a possible OROY.

Edited January 19, 2023 by BullBuchanan

[Rc2catch]

I picked Campbell but only because I enjoy that lions squad he’s got. 
I think shanahan wins (deservedly so) and Daboll gets within striking distance. 

[Billz4ever]

10 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

Daboll was the lock until Brock Purdy came along. To storm into the playoffs as a SB favorite with your 3rd string QB is an all-time great accomplishment. I don't know if anyone can stop SF right now. Daboll's story of turning around a ***** team and taking NYG to the playoffs for the first time in 6 years with the exact same talent they had last year when they went 4-13 is awesome, but Shanahan is writing a story that will get him to the HoF this season.

McD isn't even on the board for me. The bills were supposed to roll this year, and instead they mostly limped through. Props for showing heart and winning tough games, but they made most of it look way harder than they should have. Maybe they'll have enough gas in the tank to still win it all, but they were a much more impressive looking team in each of the past two years than they were this year from my perspective.

I don't think it's even a question though that San Fran has much more talent on their roster than the G-men do.  Daboll has clearly done more with less IMO.

[BullBuchanan]

6 minutes ago, Billz4ever said:

I don't think it's even a question though that San Fran has much more talent on their roster than the G-men do.  Daboll has clearly done more with less IMO.

Daboll still has a 1st round Qb and #2 overall RB. Shanny did it with Mr irrelevant. QB is everything in the NFL and Kyle Shanahan changed the rules. He'll win with whatever dude is sleeping on your couch.

Edited January 19, 2023 by BullBuchanan

[Billz4ever]

50 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

Daboll still has a 1st round Qb and #2 overall RB. Shanny did it with Mr irrelevant. QB is everything in the NFL and Kyle Shanahan changed the rules. He'll win with whatever dude is sleeping on your couch.

Daniel Jones?  LOL  There was talk the dude might not even make it through a few games at the beginning of the year.  Dude has 3200 yds and 15 TDs and you're making it sound like he's Josh Allen. 

 

Claiming Shanahan is coach of the year because of Purdy is like saying Belichick was coach of the year because the GM caught lightning in a bottle drafting Brady.

 

Just between McCaffrey, Samuel, and Kittle, that's more talent than the Giants' entire offensive side of the ball. 

 

I'm not even going to mention the defensive side of the ball because it's not even close.

 

The Giants also play in the most competitive division in football, while the NFC West is largely a joke.

Edited January 20, 2023 by Billz4ever

[BullBuchanan]

39 minutes ago, Billz4ever said:

Daniel Jones?  LOL  There was talk the dude might not even make it through a few games at the beginning of the year.  Dude has 3200 yds and 15 TDs and you're making it sound like he's Josh Allen. 

 

Claiming Shanahan is coach of the year because of Purdy is like saying Belichick was coach of the year because the GM caught lightning in a bottle drafting Brady.

 

Just between McCaffrey, Samuel, and Kittle, that's more talent than the Giants' entire offensive side of the ball. 

 

I'm not even going to mention the defensive side of the ball because it's not even close.

Nah that's all a really big mischaracterization of what happened.

There was talk Daniel Jones wouldn't make it through, because he previously wasn't any good, and now he's turned it around. If the talent wasn't there, he wouldn't have been the 1st QB off the baord. Daboll got that out of him and that's to be commended, but he started with good raw materials.

As for Brock Purdy, it's yet to be determined if he's Tom Brady or Nick Mullens. You make it sound like winning games with your #1, #2, and #3 int he NFL isn't a miraculous feat. This isn't Bama. Most NFL teams don't have 1 legitimate talent, yet Shanahan throughout his career has put together great offenses and big seasons despite never having a great QB. I think doing it with a rookie #3 this year cements that legacy that he can win with just about anyone.

Obviously they have more talent, but they also have the results to match. The giants mostly puttered through the regular season winning close games. The 49ers on the other hand dismantled team the way the Bills did last year. I think that's more impressive. It's one thing to win, but it's another entirely to roll. The 49ers had the same talent level the last 2 years and didn't roll like this.

Daboll may win it, and that's ok. He did an AMAZING job. Shanahan was just better.

 

Edited January 20, 2023 by BullBuchanan

[Billz4ever]

8 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

Nah that's all a really big mischaracterization of what happened.

There was talk Daniel Jones wouldn't make it through, because he previously wasn't any good, and now he's turned it around. If the talent wasn't there, he wouldn't have been the 1st QB off the baord. Daboll got that out of him and that's to be commended, but he started with good raw materials.

As for Brock Purdy, it's yet to be determined if he's Tom Brady or Nick Mullens. You make it sound like winning games with your #1, #2, and #3 int he NFL isn't a miraculous feat. This isn't Bama. Most NFL teams don't have 1 legitimate talent, yet Shanahan throughout his career has put together great offenses and big seasons despite never having a great QB. I think doing it with a rookie #3 this year cements that legacy that he can win with just about anyone.

Obviously they have more talent, but they also have the results to match. The giants mostly puttered through the regular season winning close games. The 49ers on the other hand dismantled team the way the Bills did last year. I think that's more impressive. It's one thing to win, but it's another entirely to roll. The 49ers had the same talent level the last 2 years and didn't roll like this.

Daboll may win it, and that's ok. He did an AMAZING job. Shanahan was just better.

 

The Giants also play in the most competitive division in football, where the NFC West is pretty trash.

 

I'm not losing sleep over it either way, but it just looks to me like Daboll got them where they are with less to work with, while playing better competition overall.

[atlbillsfan1975]

Terrible thread on a Bills board. To not name the HC of the team this board is centered around is silly. McD overcame more than any other coach. 

[Billz4ever]

2 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

Terrible thread on a Bills board. To not name the HC of the team this board is centered around is silly. McD overcame more than any other coach. 

Kinda hard to give McD coach of the year when the Bills were betting favorites to win the SB coming into the season.

[Heavy Kevi]

No McD?

 

I voted Dabs but I almost voted Pederson

[atlbillsfan1975]

2 hours ago, Billz4ever said:

Kinda hard to give McD coach of the year when the Bills were betting favorites to win the SB coming into the season.

Couldn’t disagree more. What this team has gone through this year is unprecedented. There isn’t a better leader of men in the NFL than McDermott. 

[MJS]

On 1/18/2023 at 6:59 AM, PetermansRedemption said:

My rankings would be

1.Daboll 2.Peterson 3.Campbell 4. Tomlin

Tomlin? Why?

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

38 minutes ago, MJS said:

Tomlin? Why?

 

I think Tomlin did a heck of a job as usual. They finished the season with a winning record. TJ Watt, who for my money is the best defensive player in the game, missed 7 games. Steelers were 8-2 in games he played in this year. They were in a transition year with a rookie QB and still managed a winning season while missing their best player for a large chunk of the season.

[bobobonators]

4 hours ago, BullBuchanan said:

Nah that's all a really big mischaracterization of what happened.

There was talk Daniel Jones wouldn't make it through, because he previously wasn't any good, and now he's turned it around. If the talent wasn't there, he wouldn't have been the 1st QB off the baord. Daboll got that out of him and that's to be commended, but he started with good raw materials.

As for Brock Purdy, it's yet to be determined if he's Tom Brady or Nick Mullens. You make it sound like winning games with your #1, #2, and #3 int he NFL isn't a miraculous feat. This isn't Bama. Most NFL teams don't have 1 legitimate talent, yet Shanahan throughout his career has put together great offenses and big seasons despite never having a great QB. I think doing it with a rookie #3 this year cements that legacy that he can win with just about anyone.

Obviously they have more talent, but they also have the results to match. The giants mostly puttered through the regular season winning close games. The 49ers on the other hand dismantled team the way the Bills did last year. I think that's more impressive. It's one thing to win, but it's another entirely to roll. The 49ers had the same talent level the last 2 years and didn't roll like this.

Daboll may win it, and that's ok. He did an AMAZING job. Shanahan was just better.

 

I struggled between Shanahan and Daboll. I think most will. I think something can be made of the NFCW weakness this season when compared to NFCE. The Chiefs played the 49ers in SF, and obliterated them. 
 

Look at the 49ers schedule this season. It had to be among the easiest in the nfl

 

Bears - joke

Hawks - above avg

Broncos - joke

Rams - joke

Panthers - joke

Falcons - joke

Chiefs - really good

Rams - joke

Chargers - above avg

Cardinals - joke

Saints - below avg

Dolphins - good

Bucs - avg

Hawks - above avg

Commanders - avg

Raiders - joke

Cardinals - joke

 

At least 9 games vs horrible teams. Props to them for handling business though. The Chiefs game might be indicative of their slightly inflated W/L record. 
 

Look up the Giants schedule - it’s not even close how much harder it was. 

 

 

 

 

Edited January 20, 2023 by bobobonators

[BullBuchanan]

28 minutes ago, bobobonators said:

I struggled between Shanahan and Daboll. I think most will. I think something can be made of the NFCW weakness this season when compared to NFCE. The Chiefs played the 49ers in SF, and obliterated them. 
 

Look at the 49ers schedule this season. It had to be among the easiest in the nfl

 

Bears - joke

Hawks - above avg

Broncos - joke

Rams - joke

Panthers - joke

Falcons - joke

Chiefs - really good

Rams - joke

Chargers - above avg

Cardinals - joke

Saints - below avg

Dolphins - good

Bucs - avg

Hawks - above avg

Commanders - avg

Raiders - joke

Cardinals - joke

 

At least 9 games vs horrible teams. Props to them for handling business though. The Chiefs game might be indicative of their slightly inflated W/L record. 
 

Look up the Giants schedule - it’s not even close how much harder it was. 

 

 

 

 

You're way off on the strength of a lot of these teams.

[John from Riverside]

4 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

Terrible thread on a Bills board. To not name the HC of the team this board is centered around is silly. McD overcame more than any other coach. 

Some fans just have the self hating thing going on

[Billever76]

On 1/18/2023 at 10:18 AM, BucketList said:

I also voted for Daboll but will comment that the team he inherited had lots of talent.  They were very poorly coached and managed by the previous staff (Judge and company). I think Daboll is a QB whisperer and knows how use talent properly. He also gets big time credit for hiring Kafka from KC as his OC and Wink Martindale as his DC. 

Isiah hodgins who our staff didn't think even deserved a roster spot is his wr1 lol