We're on to Cincinnati(Bengals coming to OP). Sunday 1/22 at 3pm. Opening Line Bills -5

[Straight Hucklebuck]

1 minute ago, PaattMaann said:

Burrow has struggled mightily against 3 man rushes this season. Might we see that utilized as a strategy to switch it up somewhere in this game? I am trying to find out the Bills utilization of 3 man rushes previously.

 

Oliver, Groot and "insert other DE". 

I would think it would have to be Lawson. 

 

Epenesa is too slight, and gets pushed past the QB often.

[JohnBonhamRocks]

1 minute ago, PaattMaann said:

Burrow has struggled mightily against 3 man rushes this season. Might we see that utilized as a strategy to switch it up somewhere in this game? I am trying to find out the Bills utilization of 3 man rushes previously.

 

Oliver, Groot and "insert other DE". 

This. Or Oliver-DT-Groot. 

[Straight Hucklebuck]

Just now, JohnBonhamRocks said:

This. Or Oliver-DT-Groot. 

Oliver - Daqaun - Groot

10 minutes ago, H2o said:

There is a difference between natural momentum from a play and increased momentum purposely created by the torqueing of your body. That is basic physics. You see Hendrickson stare right at Allen's legs for that split second, his knee actually goes to the ground, then pushes off of that knee to whip his body over into Allen. He purposely generates more momentum than he already had. There wasn't even really that much of a shove to create his roll by Dawkins. You see all of it clearly when they show the 2nd view while looking directly at the front of Allen on the play. He then stares up at Allen as soon as he does, jumps up, and then walks off smiling. I could care less about the league, what some other posters on here say, or what Cincy fans say to try and justify the situation. Like I said, this isn't the first time he's done things of the sort and he even took a cheap shot at a Ravens OL'man last weekend.  him. He's a piece of crap, dirty player. 

 

 Hendrickson walking off after he rolled into Allen

 

 

 

And because it wouldn't let me tag it along with the last post, here is Hendrickson smiling in the face of Goff after a sack for comparison. 

He meant that as a "compliment" to Allen 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

13 minutes ago, SUNY_amherst said:

I don’t like this matchup. That’s not 3rd stringer Skylar whatever on the other sideline, that’s a bonafide superstar. 

this bills team hasn’t played “good” in like a month

plus they have to be pretty pissed to be playing in Buffalo, let’s be honest Cincy would’ve won on MNF and should be playing this game at home

 

Heavily dispute the ‘wouldve won’. We frequently give up a few quick scores before really tightening up on defense.  they had an extra drive,  that game very easily could’ve been 14-10 in a few minutes with us getting the second half kickoff.  
 

also one drive isn’t proof we would’ve been able to do it all game,  but we rarely if ever lose when we can run the football like that.  Not sure if it was Hendrickson being injured or what but we were mauling them up front 

Edited January 19, 2023 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[wjag]

Would not shock me at all to see a heavy dose of Mixon and Perine.  For all the shoot out potential of this game, I would imagine both teams want to control clock and limit possessions. 

[Peace Frog]

8 hours ago, gobills404 said:

You have over 60 posts on an opposing teams message board in the last 3 days.

https://www.indeed.com/m/jobs?l=Cincinnati%2C+OH

 

 

[JohnBonhamRocks]

Guess we can put the Allen vs. Burrow debate to bed:

 

https://www.wivb.com/bills-mafia-buffalo-fans/josh-allen-pregame-style-outfit-hoodie-joe-burrow?utm_source=wivb_app&utm_medium=social&utm_content=share-link

 

Title: “Josh Allen says he can’t compete with Joe Burrow’s style”

[boyst]

14 minutes ago, PaattMaann said:

Burrow has struggled mightily against 3 man rushes this season. Might we see that utilized as a strategy to switch it up somewhere in this game? I am trying to find out the Bills utilization of 3 man rushes previously.

 

Oliver, Groot and "insert other DE". 

the bills have been effective moving rosseau inside. phillips outside.

 

we have also seen oliver slide outside to a wide tackle, inside end.

 

basham and rosseau have dropped back effectively to block lanes.

 

i don't know that the bills have a plan for Mixon and the RBs of Cinci. i don't know that they need to.

[LeGOATski]

27 minutes ago, SUNY_amherst said:

I don’t like this matchup. That’s not 3rd stringer Skylar whatever on the other sideline, that’s a bonafide superstar. 

this bills team hasn’t played “good” in like a month

plus they have to be pretty pissed to be playing in Buffalo, let’s be honest Cincy would’ve won on MNF and should be playing this game at home

 

Thanks for your input, Jerry

6 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said:

Guess we can put the Allen vs. Burrow debate to bed:

 

https://www.wivb.com/bills-mafia-buffalo-fans/josh-allen-pregame-style-outfit-hoodie-joe-burrow?utm_source=wivb_app&utm_medium=social&utm_content=share-link

 

Title: “Josh Allen says he can’t compete with Joe Burrow’s style”

Joey Hollywood

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

4 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said:

Guess we can put the Allen vs. Burrow debate to bed:

 

https://www.wivb.com/bills-mafia-buffalo-fans/josh-allen-pregame-style-outfit-hoodie-joe-burrow?utm_source=wivb_app&utm_medium=social&utm_content=share-link

 

Title: “Josh Allen says he can’t compete with Joe Burrow’s style”

I'd take a casual attire QB over some flamboyant dressed QB any day. 

[SCBills]

35 minutes ago, SUNY_amherst said:

I don’t like this matchup. That’s not 3rd stringer Skylar whatever on the other sideline, that’s a bonafide superstar. 

this bills team hasn’t played “good” in like a month

plus they have to be pretty pissed to be playing in Buffalo, let’s be honest Cincy would’ve won on MNF and should be playing this game at home

 

 

You managed to make this poor of a post AND had to edit it in order to do so? 

[Straight Hucklebuck]

1 minute ago, boyst said:

the bills have been effective moving rosseau inside. phillips outside.

 

we have also seen oliver slide outside to a wide tackle, inside end.

 

basham and rosseau have dropped back effectively to block lanes.

 

i don't know that the bills have a plan for Mixon and the RBs of Cinci. i don't know that they need to.

Mixon had two runs on MNF for 12-yards. 

 

Historically, he is 3.9 yoc - 4.1 ypc. 

 

Last year he had 4.9 ypc, but it was his only year not in the 3.9 - 4.1 range. 

[SWATeam]

Just now, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Mixon had two runs on MNF for 12-yards. 

 

Historically, he is 3.9 yoc - 4.1 ypc. 

 

Last year he had 4.9 ypc, but it was his only year not in the 3.9 - 4.1 range. 

Mixon also sucks in pass protection.  We might actually see more Perine with the state of the OL

[LOVEMESOMEBILLS]

36 minutes ago, SUNY_amherst said:

I don’t like this matchup. That’s not 3rd stringer Skylar whatever on the other sideline, that’s a bonafide superstar. 

this bills team hasn’t played “good” in like a month

plus they have to be pretty pissed to be playing in Buffalo, let’s be honest Cincy would’ve won on MNF and should be playing this game at home

 

 

Fun fact, Skylar's team almost had as many yards and Burrow's team last Sunday, 231 vs 234. Yeah, the Bengals are playing great, 234 yards of offensr for the entire game. We almost had that at the end of the 1st quarter.😂😂😂

 

 

[Low Positive]

I was surprised to learn when I first moved to Ohio that college football is bigger in huge portions of the country than the NFL. That also goes for the NFL talking heads, who pay as much attention to the college games as they do NFL games because draft hot-takes are an important part of their job. I think that the reason that the national media LOVES the Bengals is that their key players were highly-regarded prospects coming into the draft from powerhouse teams.

• Joe Burrow ran the BEST OFFENSE IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL HISTORY
• Chase was his primary receiver on the BEST OFFENSE IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL HISTORY
• Tee Higgins caught passes from Trevor Lawrence in HUGE games
• Joe Mixon played in huge college games at Oklahoma, as did Perine.

Now lets look at the Bills

• Josh Allen: Wyoming
• Stefon Diggs: Maryland
• Gabe Davis: South Florida
• Devin Singletary: Florida Atlantic
• Dawson Knox: Ole Miss, but he was a project who saw little production in college

The Bengals are a team of blue chip prospects who were easy to project coming into the league. The Bills are a team full of guys who are defying the odds. The Bills also call into question the notion that college production is the primary indicator of NFL success. It makes scouting players coming into the draft a lot more difficult for media personalities because college production is all they have to evaluate. 

 

Also, everyone loves Joe Burrow because nobody has an embarrassing draft-night hot take to live down. You know that whenever Josh Allen throws an INT, every NFL talking head (except Kiper) gets that little spark of hope that maybe, just maybe, he or she (I'm looking right at you Mina Kimes) will be proven right in the end.

 

[Caesar]

9 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

Well, no, but you might ack that people interpreted you as they did, because of how you wrote it, not "LOL" at them.  It's not a matter of my liking, after all, but of writing being how we convey ideas.  Like when I write confusingly (which happens more often than I'd like) and people misinterpret I'm like "I could have phrased it better, this is what I meant"

 

To put a little ball in here, I would agree they are both excellent, but very different QBs. 

 

You mentioned Allen fumbling.  I haven't updated it but about 3/4 of the way through the season I went through and binned every fumble into 3 categories:

1) QB center exchange

2) sack

3) while running

The finding was that very few of Allen's fumbles this season have been on runs (hope that continues, as he did have ball security issues as a runner earlier in his career).  The largest number were on the QB center exchange, with strip sacks #2.  The cause of the QB center exchange problems, were getting down to our 3rd string center in a couple of games, and also Morse (starter) trying to play through an elbow injury/come back a bit too soon.

 

Hope this is sort of the content you came for.

 

 

 

 

 

Definitely good stuff, Josh seems to get pounded by the media over these.  I do get it, Burrow has at least 7 interceptions that were tipped balls.

[Franco_92]

9 hours ago, Locomark said:

Did you know….

the Bills are 24-5 in their last 29 games

 

the 5 losses are 2 in OT and the other 3 being by a total of 8 points

 

we are truly blessed to be watching this team 

How is this correct? Our last 19 games we are 15-4. This takes us back to the end of last regular season. We won our last 4, but lost 2 before that. So our last 25 games we are 19-6. Then we went W L W L, saints colts jets jags. That gets us to 21-8 in our last 29 games. 

[JGMcD2]

1 hour ago, SUNY_amherst said:

I don’t like this matchup. That’s not 3rd stringer Skylar whatever on the other sideline, that’s a bonafide superstar. 

this bills team hasn’t played “good” in like a month

plus they have to be pretty pissed to be playing in Buffalo, let’s be honest Cincy would’ve won on MNF and should be playing this game at home

 

Did you mean home or dome?

 

The Bills NEED to build a dome to protect against severe winter storms that result in driving bans. 

[Coach Tuesday]

Disappointing pregame thread, 70 pages of you guys chasing a rooster around a pen.

 

STAY FOCUSED PEOPLE!

Edited January 19, 2023 by Coach Tuesday

[Caesar]

9 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

So if you're here to talk ball, be the bigger guy, let it roll off your back and show what you're here for.  Otherwise you gotta see that posters like myself who are here to talk ball. look at your little jibs and put downs and understandably think you're here on an opposing fan board to start something vs. to share info. 

 

You mentioned that Burrow has a bunch of INTs off tipped balls.  Allen does also, of course.  Any feeling on how many of Burrow's 12 picks are off tips, and were they tipped at the line or in pass defense?  I would say usually tipped at the line for Allen, though the WC game featured a pick that was deflected off the receiver's chest/defenders arm.

 

This season, Allen went through a bunch of inexplicable, WTF? interceptions where Bills fans were "what are you DOING?"  He had some inexplicable throws in the dirt, for example, and one was picked off on the GB goal line by Jaire Alexander; Allen said he was trying to throw it away but I don't think most people believe that since, from the GB3 Allen could easily hurl it through the back of the EZ.

 

You probably heard some stuff that he tore his ulnar collateral ligament and was thought to need to miss 2-4 weeks; he played that week, but his play was off for a while, lower passing yards, lower completion %.  Weather played a role as well - cold rain; snow; bitter cold and wind - but Allen has shown before he can play in weather, so some think the UCL was bothering him and still might, though to a lesser extent.   Allen asserted that it didn't bother him during a game, but before the Miami game our OC Dorsey praised Allen for "getting to the point where he can do everything and make all the throws he needs to make" and it's really only the last couple games that the deep ball has re-appeared.  There was a stretch week 11-14 where I don't think Allen completed more than a handful of passes more than 20 yds.  Of course this coincided with some bad weather games as well so Who Knows? 

 

But the ol' Arm Cannon appears to be in good fettle right now.

 

Allen is an alien, simply a brute and fun to watch.  He's my second favorite QB.

1 hour ago, JohnBonhamRocks said:

Ok but you ignored the part I put in bold where you say Allen’s only trait better than Burrow is his rushing, which also implies both can throw it a mile.

 

Not even really arguing with your point (to me they are both elite passers so Allen’s running ability makes him an overall slightly bigger threat at QB), just pointing out what you’re saying has been self-contradictory. 

Sure, "trait" was the wrong word as a cannon would be a trait, but as to passing stats is what I was referring.  Josh is fantastic and the better overall football player I just like our guy's accuracy and pre-post snap abilities.

[PaattMaann]

47 minutes ago, boyst said:

the bills have been effective moving rosseau inside. phillips outside.

 

we have also seen oliver slide outside to a wide tackle, inside end.

 

basham and rosseau have dropped back effectively to block lanes.

 

i don't know that the bills have a plan for Mixon and the RBs of Cinci. i don't know that they need to.

 

the plan SHOULD be "who cares" when concerning their run game. They dont have one. They are bottom 5 in every rushing metric. Any rushing attempt is a win for the Bills because its not Burrow throwing to one of their many dangerous weapons. Ill take our chances ALL DAY if the Bengals have more than 25 rushing attempts. 

[zow2]

Dang, everyone on the ESPN Get UP set picked Burrow over Allen...and picked Cinci to win over the Bills on Sunday.  They even smashed our mini helmet.  Burrow and the Bengals are definitely the flavor this week for National media.

[Caesar]

55 minutes ago, Peace Frog said:

 

I reply to those directed at me, the only original posts I make are questions or answers to statements others have made regarding the Bengals.  This weird of you.

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

 

[Straight Hucklebuck]

3 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:

 

Thanks Field, we all knew that. 
 

ESPN pointing out obvious things. 

[boyst]

8 minutes ago, PaattMaann said:

 

the plan SHOULD be "who cares" when concerning their run game. They dont have one. They are bottom 5 in every rushing metric. Any rushing attempt is a win for the Bills because its not Burrow throwing to one of their many dangerous weapons. Ill take our chances ALL DAY if the Bengals have more than 25 rushing attempts. 

i like that thought.

any run should be considered a win for buffalo because Mixon and the RB's are JAGS. this also keeps the ball out of Burrieux hands.

[Caesar]

2 hours ago, boyst said:

my genius of football is not something i think. it's something i know. 

 

the bengals have been to a super bowl... what like twice? how many rings do you have? together with the bills they show....0. perhaps that's why there is such disdain for your team. they're millenials and zoomers who believe participation trophies are merits of success!!!!!!!

 

this game is your super bowl. it's what they're acting like to finally get the revenge they think they deserve.

 

and i don't care about "your" website reference. if they're too dense to understand satire and fan speak then i have a rude awakening for them but not surprised because i have spent much time in Ohio. there is little joy there. the whole cinci area is just a suburb of gahanna and the greater columbus metro. at least the north side of cbus isn't so awful - worthington and such is nice.

the new cat toy is old now. sorry bud, have a good day

 

So you practically begged me to debate your "expert analysis of my team", I provided a courteous response to each point you made and instead of actually discussing football you do this?  A white flag emoji would be good enough.

[boyst]

Just now, Caesar said:

 

So you practically begged me to debate your "expert analysis of my team", I provided a courteous response to each point you made and instead of actually discussing football you do this?  A white flag emoji would be good enough.

[Caesar]

9 hours ago, Jauronimo said:

Figure out who is who and respond (or don't respond) accordingly.  And if you catch yourself thinking this place is bad, fire up ChiefsPlanet.com for a few minutes and let perspective wash over you like a tidal wave of toxic, flaming sewage.

Lol, no doubt. You guys have a couple childish posters here I should ignore, as do we, but Chiefs Planet is on an entirely different level.  They are nonstop miserable.

[Johnnycage46]

@boyst and @Caesar need to hug it out.  There's a game to be played this weekend!!

[Big Turk]

Does it not seem kind of strange the NFL made concessions for a Baltimore-Cincy playoff game possibility(coin flip if Baltimore won week 18), a KC-Buffalo playoff game concession(neutral site if they meet in the AFCCG) but not a Cincinnati-Buffalo playoff game concession when those were the two actual teams affected most?

 

I can't blame the Bengals and Bengal fans for feeling like they got screwed in this whole thing. They kinda did.

Edited January 19, 2023 by Big Turk

[Johnnycage46]

Just now, SUNY_amherst said:

I also don't think it is a good thing that Hamlin is showing up to the facility daily like McDermott stated. Of course no one involved with the Bills is gonna tell him not to but its clearly an emotional distraction

 

I think the season ends sunday, hope I'm wrong. Flame away though, I know nobody likes a millgram of criticism/negativity here

 

This is the most ridiculous post I've ever seen here...we don't use the metric system here!!

[dollars 2 donuts]

8 minutes ago, Caesar said:

I reply to those directed at me, the only original posts I make are questions or answers to statements others have made regarding the Bengals.  This weird of you.

 

 

Caesar, I'm a visitor to your town a number of times earlier in this century, if Cincy is your home.

 

It's how I developed my love of Skyline Chili and to this day there is a can of it in my cupboard, along with the Skyline hot sauce, right now.  Sometimes its what I serve on gameday.  I'm also a fan of the Montgomery Inn ribs.

 

Good stuff, good people.

 

First time I ever played cornhole was at a tailgate down there before a game.  

 

That's it.  Have a good one, brother.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[SCBills]

19 minutes ago, Caesar said:

 

Allen is an alien, simply a brute and fun to watch.  He's my second favorite QB.

Sure, "trait" was the wrong word as a cannon would be a trait, but as to passing stats is what I was referring.  Josh is fantastic and the better overall football player I just like our guy's accuracy and pre-post snap abilities.

 

How do Cincy fans view his weapons?  In the sense that Burrow will likely get the new wave of QB contract approaching/exceeding 50M per... It's hard to imagine he'll ever have more weapons than he does in Chase, Higgins, Boyd, Hurst, an invested in OL (injuries not withstanding) AND a top 10 caliber Defense.  

 

Is the consensus that Burrow will elevate those around him?.. because the weapons y'all have are as good as it gets this side of San Fran.

 

It's what we've gone through all year with a heavily invested in defense and halfway though the year we're out here wining and dining OBJ and signing Beasley & Brown because Allen is throwing to Diggs, unproven slot WR's and a guy who apparently only dominates in the Playoffs. 

 

Edited January 19, 2023 by SCBills

[Punch]

Just now, Big Turk said:

Does it not seem kind of strange the NFL made concessions for a Baltimore-Cincy playoff game possibility(coin flip if Baltimore won week 18), a KC-Buffalo playoff game concession(neutral site if they meet in the AFCCG) but not a Cincinnati-Buffalo playoff game concession when those were the two actual teams affected most?

 

I can't blame the Bengals and Bengal fans for feeling like they got screwed in this whole thing.

Yes, it is strange. The only reasoning I can wrap my head around is the AFC North was at stake for Bengals-Ravens but ultimately the stakes were the same for both scenarios: hosting a playoff game.

[Franco_92]

2 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

Does it not seem kind of strange the NFL made concessions for a Baltimore-Cincy playoff game possibility(coin flip if Baltimore won week 18), a KC-Buffalo playoff game concession(neutral site if they meet in the AFCCG) but not a Cincinnati-Buffalo playoff game concession when those were the two actual teams affected most?

 

I can't blame the Bengals and Bengal fans for feeling like they got screwed in this whole thing. They kinda did.

No, the concession is because the teams involved did not play an equal number of games, such that in theory being allowed to catch up would change the standings. 

 

The bills and bengals played in the same number of games 

Edited January 19, 2023 by arcane

[Big Turk]

4 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

 

 

Caesar, I'm a visitor to your town a number of times earlier in this century, if Cincy is your home.

 

It's how I developed my love of Skyline Chili and to this day there is a can of it in my cupboard, along with the Skyline hot sauce, right now.  Sometimes its what I serve on gameday.  I'm also a fan of the Montgomery Inn ribs.

 

Good stuff, good people.

 

First time I ever played cornhole was at a tailgate down there before a game.  

 

That's it.  Have a good one, brother.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

GoldStar over Skyline.  I said what I said. I lived in Cincy for a little over a year, I know it's not a popular take, but it's the truth

Edited January 19, 2023 by Big Turk

[Punch]

Just now, arcane said:

No, the concession is because the teams involved did not play an equal number of games, such that I theory being allowed to catch up would change the standings. 

 

The bills and bengals played in the same number of games 

That's right but I guess it still feels off. 

[Big Turk]

1 minute ago, arcane said:

No, the concession is because the teams involved did not play an equal number of games, such that in theory being allowed to catch up would change the standings. 

 

The bills and bengals played in the same number of games 

 

But that game would directly have affected the Bengals ability to be the 2 seed(or 1 if the Chiefs had lost). How is that any different?

[Johnnycage46]

1 minute ago, SUNY_amherst said:

 

I edited it for the non-canadian, non-educated fans like yourself

Hey! At least I knew it was the metric system. I'm wicked smaht.