Teddy KGB Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 31 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: A really sexist, out of touch comment by someone who wants to continue to be credentialed to report on a female owned football team. Didn’t he say some really stupid 💩 to Cam Newton too ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Jauronimo said: I do not understand your rush to defend all manner of idiots who insist on sticking their feet in their mouth. I think you might have me confused with a different poster. I don't like Jerry Sullivan and I can't recall defending any other media figure any time recently. In fairness, maybe I'm just forgetting something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, BillsFanSD said: I think you might have me confused with a different poster. I don't like Jerry Sullivan and I can't recall defending any other media figure any time recently. In fairness, maybe I'm just forgetting something. Perhaps I have you mistaken with someone else but I thought we just had a similar conversation RE: recent comments by an injured Raven's QB. At the very least I believe you had similar thoughts about those comments made and whether or not anyone was offended despite evidence in thread that clearly some were offended. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel from az Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Sullivan is what he is but to get rid of him for that comment too woke for me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldfronts Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. Drop the woke/ cancel crap and move on. Perfect example the public outrage exceeds the wrong done. 1 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Just now, Coldfronts said: Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. Drop the woke/ cancel crap and move on. Perfect example the public outrage exceeds the wrong done. "everyone is entitled to their opinion but stop voicing yours and accept mine" 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 10 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: Didn’t he say some really stupid 💩 to Cam Newton too ? "Nice babushka!"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Biggest stooge in media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldfronts Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Just now, Tom Donahoe, GM said: "everyone is entitled to their opinion but stop voicing yours and accept mine" Big difference between responding to something said you do not like and canceling someone for it 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, Coldfronts said: Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. Drop the woke/ cancel crap and move on. Perfect example the public outrage exceeds the wrong done. Everyone is entitled to consequences for their actions too. Or do you not believe in personal responsibility? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 41 minutes ago, SirAndrew said: Terrible choice of words from Sullivan, but it makes me ask his intent. Is he hinting that women are less critical than men? Could have fooled me over the years 😂 The irrelevant trying to become relevant even if it’s his own funeral. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 11 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: Perhaps I have you mistaken with someone else but I thought we just had a similar conversation RE: recent comments by an injured Raven's QB. At the very least I believe you had similar thoughts about those comments made and whether or not anyone was offended despite evidence in thread that clearly some were offended. Yeah, I had forgotten about that one. I thought Jackson's comment to that fan was unprofessional (why go after some rando on social media?) but the performative outrage was ridiculous. I'll grant that this is similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldfronts Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Everyone is entitled to consequences for their actions too. Or do you not believe in personal responsibility? So, who decides what sins deserve canceling and please don't say the community because you can see where the Salem witch trials got us. Thank good for the first amendment and you don't have to watch his stuff ...just don't canceling him over it like a child throwing a fit Edited December 13, 2022 by Coldfronts 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 My experience tells me most women have no freaking idea who Jerry Sullivan is. Some guy selling Kim Kardashian perfume 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Coldfronts said: So, who decides what sins deserve canceling and please don't say the community because you can see where the Salem witch trials got us. Thank good for the first amendment and you don't have to watch his stuff just don't canceling him over it I've had Sullivan "canceled" for years. In that I refused to read his drivel, or even give him a click on his articles. Where you cry "canceling" I just call it exercising my choice as a consumer. And when his employers realize his statements have hurt their bottom line, they will fire him. That's free market capitalism, baby. Take your adolescent drama, and crying over fake crap like "woke" and "canceling", back to twitter. Edited December 13, 2022 by DrDawkinstein 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damj Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 I'd like to say he was never relevant to begin with, but I guess he was once regarded as someone, so we'll just call him a washed up has been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Dumb comment. Sullivan is wrong about what he said. Move on. Shouldn’t erase his career. Shouldn’t be something everyone cries about for days. Equally annoying.. having WGR hosts & some of the Bills podcast guys use this as an opportunity to virtue signal. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HT02 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Gisele said: He's an idiot but people need to slow down on trying to cancel someone every time they make a comment that offends. If you don't like him, ignore him. Amen Gisele! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Pretty sure the other guys were all laughing with Sullivan. Did they condone the comments then, but not now? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 2 hours ago, clayboy54 said: Hopefully, we'll never know where Jerry is buried. I believe they marked the 50 yard marker for the new stadium if you need a marker. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 I’ve been fine with Sully’s schtick in the past. It was a grumpy institution. That said, what an absolute delta bravo. He really stepped in it here, and, while I’m sure it was awkward in the moment, the Trainwreck boys really dropped the ball by not correcting him right away. By doing so, if that wasn’t what Sully meant, it would’ve given him an opportunity to clarify (not sure he was capable of making it better). Instead, they all come across as giant jackasses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldfronts Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: I've had Sullivan "canceled" for years. In that I refused to read his drivel, or even give him a click on his articles. Where you cry "canceling" I just call it exercising my choice as a consumer. And when his employers realize his statements have hurt their bottom line, they will fire him. That's free market capitalism, baby. Take your adolescent drama, and crying over fake crap like "woke" and "canceling", back to twitter. Wow, such tolerance 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Coldfronts said: Wow, such tolerance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance Congrats tho. You're the first person I've ever seen defend Sullivan over the past 20 years. And it isnt for his bad football takes, it's his hating on women that got you excited. Good look. 7 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, Coldfronts said: Wow, such tolerance You seem an unlikely arbiter of tolerance, considering your position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldfronts Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said: I love the inevitability of the first amendment being invoked, as if it’s meant to prevent you from getting fired from your job. OK so you think that was a offense that he should be fired for. Who make that decision the small mob of angry villagers or the company controlled by them? Not much of a choice is there? You only have the illusion of free speech. I say live and let live...no one is perfect 2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: You seem an unlikely arbiter of tolerance, considering your position. Why? I am tolerant of all voices especially the ones I disagree with Edited December 13, 2022 by Coldfronts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Coldfronts said: OK so you think that was a offense that he should be fired for. Who make that decision the small mob of angry villagers the company controlled by them? Not much of a choice is there? You only have the illusion of free speech. I say live and let live...no one is perfect OK so you think that was a offense that he should be fired for. - Yes. Who make that decision the small mob of angry villagers the company controlled by them? - His employer. That's how the whole firing thing works. Not much of a choice is there? - He made the choice to represent his employer with his words; his employer now has the choice whether to retain his services. You only have the illusion of free speech. - This is just stupid. I say live and let live...no one is perfect - Nope ... no one is perfect. And it's okay to hold people accountable. Edited December 13, 2022 by Gugny 4 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Time to be put out to pasture. No one cares about your personal opinions as an angry old grandpa. But quite different when you’re an angry old grandpa with media credentials 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Coldfronts said: OK so you think that was a offense that he should be fired for. Who make that decision the small mob of angry villagers the company controlled by them? Not much of a choice is there? You only have the illusion of free speech. I say live and let live...no one is perfect His employer will decide if he gets fired. They can see the reaction to his asinine comments and decide if he is worth keeping. Based on his approval rating prior to this issue, I don't think he is an essential employee. This has absolutely zero to do with "free speech". why do people that use this as an excuse for ignorant, offensive rhetoric have such a hard time grasping the concept that there are still consequences for things that you say. Unless the government is going after Jerry, his free speech is still intact. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Freedom of speech is a la carte. It doesn't include freedom of consequences. 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 I mean this aired over 12 hours ago and he still hasn’t apologized. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Just now, appoo said: I mean this aired over 12 hours ago and he still hasn’t apologized. He probably still has a hangover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted December 13, 2022 Author Share Posted December 13, 2022 Just now, Warcodered said: He probably still has a hangover. High Noon's will do that to ya... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 (edited) 22 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: Pretty sure the other guys were all laughing with Sullivan. Did they condone the comments then, but not now? If you click the link again check out the guy in the white sweat top. He was bobbin his head up and down which could be seen as he giving some credibility to what he was hearing Sullivan say. acknowledgment at the very least. Tacit approval? Meh prolly not but who knows. Bad optics though . Edited December 13, 2022 by muppy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 5 hours ago, BobbyC81 said: Good Morning Football played the postgame with Josh where somebody asked a question about the offense and then said “This doesn’t look like a Super Bowl offense.” Sullivan immediately came to mind. Whether it was or not, I don’t know. Yeah, I asked who that was in another thread, the response was "Jerry Sullivan" The GMFB crew discussed. The GMFB host with the most actual training as a journalist is apparently Jamie Erhdahl (degree in broadcasting and communications). She seems to feel that Sullivan doesn't "get" journalism (critical or other) in the sense that the journalist's job in an interview is to - wait for it - ask questions, not state his personal views or beliefs. IOW: "Do you feel this offense is currently performing on the level to win a Super Bowl?" (wait for response) - critical journalism "This offense is not performing on the level to win a Super Bowl" - not journalism, statement of opinion out-of-place in an interview Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Just now, muppy said: If you click the link again check out the guy in the white sweat top. He was bobbin his head up and down which could be seen as he giving some credibility to what he was hearing Sullivan say. acknowledgment at the very least. Tacit approval? Meh prolly not. Bad optics though . Yeah, that's what I was getting at. It was condoned at the time he made those dumb ass, drunken comments, but now they retract with a Twitter post and all is well? Nahhh. They're as guilty as Sullivan. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, muppy said: If you click the link again check out the guy in the white sweat top. He was bobbin his head up and down which could be seen as he giving some credibility to what he was hearing Sullivan say. acknowledgment at the very least. Tacit approval? Meh prolly not. Bad optics though . When someone does the dumb crap like Sully pulled live and in real time, I give most of the people surrounding them the benefit of the doubt. It's tough to react in real time to things. Especially when you are in the middle of work, hosting a talk show, and thinking about how to change topics or the next topic or WTF is this guy saying?!?!? Sullivan made the statements. That's the extent of it. It would be different if they piled on with their own dumb stuff, but I dont think they did unless I missed it. Edited December 13, 2022 by DrDawkinstein 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rochesterfan Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 34 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Too Little - they had a chance to stand-up for women last night - one guy looked upset and said nothing - one guy shook his head in mock agreement. It was unacceptable! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Rochesterfan said: Too Little - they had a chance to stand-up for women last night - one guy looked upset and said nothing - one guy shook his head in mock agreement. It was unacceptable! What irritates me about the entire thing is like we sit here and say “stand up for women!” And we really should. Fully agree with you. But I think I the irritation is how much women need allies….STILL. Like we can’t just treat them like human beings, because there’s too many in this world that treat them like a monolithic minority that men need to deal with. It’s dehumanizing. 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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