Big Turk Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 (edited) This has Vontae Davis beat...the man retired because he just sold a Pokemon card for 650K. I guess it's a lot easier than playing football?? OK, Buh-Lock-ay. https://www.instagram.com/p/CkytDIeSOXi/?hl=en https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/nfl-linebacker-retires-selling-rare-151500443.html Edited November 19, 2022 by Big Turk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 I am so freaking jealous of this guy. That is awesome. He played enough to make enough money to do something fun, instead of risking his health and being in that dysfunctional locker room. I wish we could all be so lucky!! 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 Dude made 28 million dollars playing football but is finally financially secure selling a 650k card? Article is gas upped. The guy could have retired well off years ago, the card had nothing to do with it. He likely bought the card for a good chunk as well. Rare graded cards don't fall out of the air. Whether he bought it graded, or took a chance and bought, likely multiple, boxes of the set it came in, he forked out money. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 1 hour ago, buffaloboyinATL said: I am so freaking jealous of this guy. That is awesome. He played enough to make enough money to do something fun, instead of risking his health and being in that dysfunctional locker room. I wish we could all be so lucky!! I love the concept, but the execution needs a little more work. He needed to build up more of a pile of cash before he pulled the plug. I honestly wonder if this is what Tre White is going through right now. A while go he said some weird stuff about using his rehab period to re-think things, see a different side of life, get away from the football culture, spend time with his family (he's married and has a kid or 2) and so on... He's also got plenty of money to last all of them (and their children, and their children's children) forever. Why get out there at turn your brain into mush? Why not walk away now? I wonder if this is his hurdle that he has to overcome. Like he can't make himself play in a game right now, but intends to get over this. The team is working with him and patiently awaiting him to get it together. Seriously, this could be it. Sounds a bit "conspiracy theory" but something odd is going on with him. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 Josh McDaniels must be a Grade A pasteurized idiot. Raiders should have kept Bisaccia. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WyoAZBillfan Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 34 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: I love the concept, but the execution needs a little more work. He needed to build up more of a pile of cash before he pulled the plug. I honestly wonder if this is what Tre White is going through right now. A while go he said some weird stuff about using his rehab period to re-think things, see a different side of life, get away from the football culture, spend time with his family (he's married and has a kid or 2) and so on... He's also got plenty of money to last all of them (and their children, and their children's children) forever. Why get out there at turn your brain into mush? Why not walk away now? I wonder if this is his hurdle that he has to overcome. Like he can't make himself play in a game right now, but intends to get over this. The team is working with him and patiently awaiting him to get it together. Seriously, this could be it. Sounds a bit "conspiracy theory" but something odd is going on with him. It don’t sound “conspiracy theory”, but it does all sound like maybe your theory, thoughts or suspicion. Big old nothing burger until White actually says something of the sort Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 I hope Josh Allen doesn’t have any Pokémon cards. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 6 minutes ago, WyoAZBillfan said: It don’t sound “conspiracy theory”, but it does all sound like maybe your theory, thoughts or suspicion. Big old nothing burger until White actually says something of the sort Not really sure what you are trying to say. I agree this is just conjecture! Educated conjecture, but conjecture nonetheless. If it was some simple thing as to why he's out, why doesn't someone f-ing say so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Madness Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 I have a metric ton of cards I need graded/encased. Nothing that will allow me to quit my job however...lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 1 hour ago, thenorthremembers said: Dude made 28 million dollars playing football but is finally financially secure selling a 650k card? Article is gas upped. The guy could have retired well off years ago, the card had nothing to do with it. He likely bought the card for a good chunk as well. Rare graded cards don't fall out of the air. Whether he bought it graded, or took a chance and bought, likely multiple, boxes of the set it came in, he forked out money. The latter. He streams the opening of new and old packs of cards online. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 50 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: I love the concept, but the execution needs a little more work. He needed to build up more of a pile of cash before he pulled the plug. Dude. According to Spotrac, Blake Martinez has career earnings of $28.9M. Despite the implications of the article, I doubt that selling the Pokeman card had a significant impact on Martinez decision to retire; it had at mmost a 2% impact on his pile of cash 50 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: I honestly wonder if this is what Tre White is going through right now. You think Tre White plans to sell Pokeman cards? 50 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: A while go he said some weird stuff about using his rehab period to re-think things, see a different side of life, get away from the football culture, spend time with his family (he's married and has a kid or 2) and so on... You do you, but in context, I don't think it was weird at all. White talked openly about being in "a dark place" after the injury and rehab, holed up in his basement. The Buffalo Bills sent training staff to haul him out of there, and no doubt got him hooked up with mental health professionals. He said he learned that there's more to being Tre White than playing football, and once he could move again he enjoyed playing with his kids. Again, You do You, but it seems pretty standard to me that a guy who suffers a sudden stop of an all-consuming career might be depressed and might need to reflect about other aspects of his life. 50 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Why get out there at turn your brain into mush? Why not walk away now? I wonder if this is his hurdle that he has to overcome. If that's where Tre is, he could simply retire. None of us know what's going on with Tre. We do know that Tre has his own medical team and both that team and the Bills need to agree he is ready to play. It is possible it is a mental issue. It is also possible there is some benchmark for functional recovery he has not yet met. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 19, 2022 Author Share Posted November 19, 2022 7 minutes ago, Beck Water said: Dude. According to Spotrac, Blake Martinez has career earnings of $28.9M. Despite the implications of the article, I doubt that selling the Pokeman card had a significant impact on Martinez decision to retire; it had at mmost a 2% impact on his pile of cash You think Tre White plans to sell Pokeman cards? You do you, but in context, I don't think it was weird at all. White talked openly about being in "a dark place" after the injury and rehab, holed up in his basement. The Buffalo Bills sent training staff to haul him out of there, and no doubt got him hooked up with mental health professionals. He said he learned that there's more to being Tre White than playing football, and once he could move again he enjoyed playing with his kids. Again, You do You, but it seems pretty standard to me that a guy who suffers a sudden stop of an all-consuming career might be depressed and might need to reflect about other aspects of his life. If that's where Tre is, he could simply retire. None of us know what's going on with Tre. We do know that Tre has his own medical team and both that team and the Bills need to agree he is ready to play. It is possible it is a mental issue. It is also possible there is some benchmark for functional recovery he has not yet met. I can relate...not even from an athlete standpoint... I had hip replacement surgery and while the rehab was way easier and faster than for an ACL, I too found myself in a dark place at times. Can only imagine when you have your entire career flash in front of you and you have to deal with all the mental what if's he is playing while he has all that time alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 Anything to get away from playing for the Raiders Serioulsy tho, good for him. I’d love to retire and just do something I enjoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WyoAZBillfan Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Nextmanup said: Not really sure what you are trying to say. I agree this is just conjecture! Educated conjecture, but conjecture nonetheless. If it was some simple thing as to why he's out, why doesn't someone f-ing say so? Educated conjecture is fancy speak for “I’m guessing”. It’s speculation altogether unless you actually have substance to back up your thoughts. As far as why someone don’t say anything, well there’s the whole privacy thing and also it’s nobody’s business but white and the Bills. When we know, we’ll know. As bad as that is. Just better not to speculate and try to drum up something just to say “I knew it”, or nothing at all if/when wrong. That’s all I’m saying.🤷🏼♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 26 minutes ago, WyoAZBillfan said: Educated conjecture is fancy speak for “I’m guessing”. It’s speculation altogether unless you actually have substance to back up your thoughts. As far as why someone don’t say anything, well there’s the whole privacy thing and also it’s nobody’s business but white and the Bills. When we know, we’ll know. As bad as that is. Just better not to speculate and try to drum up something just to say “I knew it”, or nothing at all if/when wrong. That’s all I’m saying.🤷🏼♂️ I understand why the Bills have said so little about Tre but the organisation has not been honest. And when you leave an information vaccum people speculate to fill it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 19, 2022 Author Share Posted November 19, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I understand why the Bills have said so little about Tre but the organisation has not been honest. And when you leave an information vaccum people speculate to fill it. They have been...they said he isn't ready to play. That covers a lot of things. He is fully practicing so it's either that he isn't where he wants to be from a physical standpoint and is getting smoked in practice or it's a mental thing where he doesn't think it feels "right". Edited November 19, 2022 by Big Turk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuntieEm Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 3 hours ago, Nextmanup said: I love the concept, but the execution needs a little more work. He needed to build up more of a pile of cash before he pulled the plug. I honestly wonder if this is what Tre White is going through right now. A while go he said some weird stuff about using his rehab period to re-think things, see a different side of life, get away from the football culture, spend time with his family (he's married and has a kid or 2) and so on... He's also got plenty of money to last all of them (and their children, and their children's children) forever. Why get out there at turn your brain into mush? Why not walk away now? I wonder if this is his hurdle that he has to overcome. Like he can't make himself play in a game right now, but intends to get over this. The team is working with him and patiently awaiting him to get it together. Seriously, this could be it. Sounds a bit "conspiracy theory" but something odd is going on with him. It's certainly a valid possibility. And if he decides he does want to quit playing at the end of his contract that's a very smart decision. If he wants to stop playing now again it's probably the smart move for his future health. Though possibly damage done already in his career might not avoid health problensvduecto football. He would likely need to settle his bonus to prorate the part of contract he did fulfill, return the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 8 hours ago, Big Turk said: They have been...they said he isn't ready to play. That covers a lot of things. He is fully practicing so it's either that he isn't where he wants to be from a physical standpoint and is getting smoked in practice or it's a mental thing where he doesn't think it feels "right". They have also said he is "on schedule". He clearly isn't and hasn't been for some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 20, 2022 Author Share Posted November 20, 2022 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: They have also said he is "on schedule". He clearly isn't and hasn't been for some time. Who's schedule? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 24 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Who's schedule? Whoever's schedule.... 12 months to return from an ACL these days is beyond it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 14 hours ago, Nextmanup said: I love the concept, but the execution needs a little more work. He needed to build up more of a pile of cash before he pulled the plug. I honestly wonder if this is what Tre White is going through right now. A while go he said some weird stuff about using his rehab period to re-think things, see a different side of life, get away from the football culture, spend time with his family (he's married and has a kid or 2) and so on... He's also got plenty of money to last all of them (and their children, and their children's children) forever. Why get out there at turn your brain into mush? Why not walk away now? I wonder if this is his hurdle that he has to overcome. Like he can't make himself play in a game right now, but intends to get over this. The team is working with him and patiently awaiting him to get it together. Seriously, this could be it. Sounds a bit "conspiracy theory" but something odd is going on with him. I guess Chase Young is in this conspiracy as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 17 hours ago, Nextmanup said: I love the concept, but the execution needs a little more work. He needed to build up more of a pile of cash before he pulled the plug. I honestly wonder if this is what Tre White is going through right now. A while go he said some weird stuff about using his rehab period to re-think things, see a different side of life, get away from the football culture, spend time with his family (he's married and has a kid or 2) and so on... He's also got plenty of money to last all of them (and their children, and their children's children) forever. Why get out there at turn your brain into mush? Why not walk away now? I wonder if this is his hurdle that he has to overcome. Like he can't make himself play in a game right now, but intends to get over this. The team is working with him and patiently awaiting him to get it together. Seriously, this could be it. Sounds a bit "conspiracy theory" but something odd is going on with him. Someone else finally said it. I've been saying the same thing. No one wants to hear it, but you can't possibly watch that press conference + observe the weirdness of his current situation and not realize something is seriously amiss -- unless you're a head-in-the-sand homer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: Someone else finally said it. I've been saying the same thing. No one wants to hear it, but you can't possibly watch that press conference + observe the weirdness of his current situation and not realize something is seriously amiss -- unless you're a head-in-the-sand homer. The two of you also genuinely felt it would be better for buffalo not to be home in the playoffs last year. You were “scientifically” sure of it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 Just now, teef said: The two of you also genuinely felt it would be better for buffalo not to be home in the playoffs last year. You were “scientifically” sure of it. Ok... It's actually kind of weird that you remember that, but even if true, that has absolutely nothing to do with this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: Ok... It's actually kind of weird that you remember that, but even if true, that has absolutely nothing to do with this It’s not weird because I’m ***** smart and it was incredibly insane. My point stating this is that you two love to jump on zany ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Whoever's schedule.... 12 months to return from an ACL these days is beyond it. Obj took about a year to get back to himself after his ACL with browns. He came back before then but he clearly wasn't himself. Chase young is a year out. I can go on. The average time to recover is 12 months (Some sites say 9-12 some say just 12 others say 12 or more) People heal at different rates. Edited November 20, 2022 by Not at the table Karlos 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 35 minutes ago, teef said: It’s not weird because I’m ***** smart and it was incredibly insane. My point stating this is that you two love to jump on zany ideas. The notion that something is amiss with White is not zany. It's obvious, and it's just uncomfortable for the vast majority of people here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: The notion that something is amiss with White is not zany. It's obvious, and it's just uncomfortable for the vast majority of people here. I think something is going on as most do. It’s not uncomfortable for the vast majority on here just because you say so. I have no idea why people even make comments like that. Its possible he had a physical set back that’s holding him up. I think it’s less likely that he’s lost the will to play as you stated before along with the homer head in the sand comments. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 21 hours ago, Nextmanup said: He's also got plenty of money to last all of them (and their children, and their children's children) forever. Why get out there at turn your brain into mush? Why not walk away now? I wonder if this is his hurdle that he has to overcome. Like he can't make himself play in a game right now, but intends to get over this. The team is working with him and patiently awaiting him to get it together. Seriously, this could be it. Sounds a bit "conspiracy theory" but something odd is going on with him. Certainly possible with how NFLPA tries to prevent teams from taking back money from players who retire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 20 hours ago, WyoAZBillfan said: It don’t sound “conspiracy theory”, but it does all sound like maybe your theory, thoughts or suspicion. Big old nothing burger until White actually says something of the sort I actually saw White leaving Target yesterday with a shopping cart full of Pokémon boxes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WyoAZBillfan Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 24 minutes ago, Saint Doug said: I actually saw White leaving Target yesterday with a shopping cart full of Pokémon boxes. Was he limping? Good stride with no apparent issues or in a wheel chair? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBilliams Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 21 hours ago, Beast said: I hope Josh Allen doesn’t have any Pokémon cards. Looks like Tre White does…. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 4 hours ago, WyoAZBillfan said: Was he limping? Good stride with no apparent issues or in a wheel chair? He was limping along a path of $100 bills we gave to him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 On 11/19/2022 at 1:50 PM, Nextmanup said: I love the concept, but the execution needs a little more work. He needed to build up more of a pile of cash before he pulled the plug. I honestly wonder if this is what Tre White is going through right now. A while go he said some weird stuff about using his rehab period to re-think things, see a different side of life, get away from the football culture, spend time with his family (he's married and has a kid or 2) and so on... He's also got plenty of money to last all of them (and their children, and their children's children) forever. Why get out there at turn your brain into mush? Why not walk away now? I wonder if this is his hurdle that he has to overcome. Like he can't make himself play in a game right now, but intends to get over this. The team is working with him and patiently awaiting him to get it together. Seriously, this could be it. Sounds a bit "conspiracy theory" but something odd is going on with him. After reading the transcript from his interview, I came out feeling a similar way. “I’ve got more to give than knocking a pass down or intercepting a ball." "What more can I offer people?" "What’s my purpose on Earth other than playing a football game?” "I got to see I’m bigger than a guy who puts a helmet on and goes to make tackles and knock passes down. I’m bigger than a football game. I’ve got more to offer people than football." (These are just a few comments from his interview. He also made many comments about hard he's been working, how he loves his team and how excited he is to play. I'm not trying to pick and choose and manipulate what he said. ) I know Tre loves the game and has been busting his butt to get back out there. But he appears to have done some deep thinking / soul searching and has a different mindset right now, based on some of his comments. And I would love him on the field as much as anyone, WRs have been feasting against us... But honestly I understand where he is coming from. He is asking himself some very deep questions and who actually knows how he is feeling inside? It would not be outrageous to think he might not want to do this much longer. ...or I could just be overanalyzing and be totally off lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 My niece actually makes a living playing Pokemon Go on Twitch and YouTube. Apparently millions of grown-ass adults still love their Pokemon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, ßookie_tech said: After reading the transcript from his interview, I came out feeling a similar way. “I’ve got more to give than knocking a pass down or intercepting a ball." "What more can I offer people?" "What’s my purpose on Earth other than playing a football game?” "I got to see I’m bigger than a guy who puts a helmet on and goes to make tackles and knock passes down. I’m bigger than a football game. I’ve got more to offer people than football." (These are just a few comments from his interview. He also made many comments about hard he's been working, how he loves his team and how excited he is to play. I'm not trying to pick and choose and manipulate what he said. ) OK, but you are omitting the context of the above remarks - which were that he was in such a dark place after the surgery that he was hiding in his basement and wouldn't come out, and Bills staffers had to come to his house and drag him out of there. It's not exactly news that football players can become depressed ("go to a dark place") after injury, especially mobility-limiting injuries. These guys are often adrenaline junkies (since grade school!) and don't know what to do with themselves mentally without the catharsis of practice and games. Often they have succeeded by being "laser focused" on football and not much else. It's also not exactly news that a guy who is in a "dark place" and had to be hauled out of his own basement would be encouraged by the team to start some mental therapy, and part of the mental therapy would encourage him to reflect on other aspects of his life than football and how much he has to contribute as a husband, father, community member, and man. Tre missed the entire off-season, training camp, and pre-season. It's not outrageous to think he might need more than 2-3 weeks of practice to get back into full game shape. He can't do that on IR. We are now coming up on his 4th game after being returned to the active roster, where it's become reasonable to start thinking "yeah, he ought to be able to go out there, and if he's not, did they botch the timeline of when they opened his 21 day window to return from PUP or, is something else going on? Edited November 21, 2022 by Beck Water 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 On 11/19/2022 at 8:23 AM, Big Turk said: This has Vontae Davis beat...the man retired because he just sold a Pokemon card for 650K. I guess it's a lot easier than playing football?? OK, Buh-Lock-ay. https://www.instagram.com/p/CkytDIeSOXi/?hl=en https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/nfl-linebacker-retires-selling-rare-151500443.html Hey, can't blame a man for folowing his passion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Strethor Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 On 11/20/2022 at 7:40 AM, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: Someone else finally said it. I've been saying the same thing. No one wants to hear it, but you can't possibly watch that press conference + observe the weirdness of his current situation and not realize something is seriously amiss -- unless you're a head-in-the-sand homer. Tre is waiting for the planets to align to resume playing, mercury might be in Gatorade or something like that. If he's not playing Dec. 1 then I'd be concerned but he seriously hurt his leg its totally within reason to be very particular about which surfaces you are going to come back on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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