Frank Reich fired

[newcam2012]

3 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said:

Sean Payton has the same win pct as mcdermott and lost some playoff games in incredible fashion while having a HOF QB. How s he an upgrade? 

He may not be an upgrade. It was only a suggestion. My point is it might be time to consider changing after this season. 

3 hours ago, BUFFALOBART said:

Starting over, means a brand new $h¡t show...

No thanks.

No necessarily. Especially if you have a franchise Qb like Allen. Look at what Daboll has done in NY. 

[Captain Hindsight]

4 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

He may not be an upgrade. It was only a suggestion. My point is it might be time to consider changing after this season. 

 

Respectfully, this is a ridiculous opinion. This place is like chicken little after a loss. We have lost 2 games this year by a combined 5 points. It hurts that they are division losses, but the Jets and Dolphins are legit and the Bills got beat. It happens. You think the Pegula's are gonna dump the best coach in franchise history because they lost to the Jets?

 

Be real

[newcam2012]

3 hours ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

Exactly, didn’t most on here say the same thing about the Jacksonville game last year and look what happened after that. Too many knee jerk fans on here. One loss and it’s chicken little the sky is falling. 

And what makes you think Payton would come here?? He’s already said his next team would have to be a warm weather team. That’s not us also he lives in LA and from what I’ve heard he wants the chargers job. And will probably take that if offered. Also why would you want Payton?? Did you not see how badly he screwed over the saints salary cap wise?? 

I meant to use him as an example not necessarily as an absolute. However, he's very creative offensively and he's pretty aggressive on offense. He has experience and I think a mold like him is a welcome addition to Buffalo. I'm getting a little worn out by the McD/Fraizer show. Sure McD good and better than most coaches. I don't dispute that. Just kind of feels like he can't get us there...Just a personal feeling and I don't try to say that's fact based. Perhaps, the 13 second blunder still lingers. Perhaps it's the years of seeing and expecting the worst. Yesterday, certainly brings back the past. Almost PTSD like. 

 

If the Bills fail to make a deep playoff run (assuming they get there) I wonder how hot the McD seat gets? 

3 hours ago, RiotAct said:

let’s wait til the final gun of our final game this season to start discussing this

Thats fair

 

[Bimmer323i]

3 hours ago, boyst said:

bring him into Buf as a QB coach. let him lick his wounds. keep him in the fold, if Dorsey flops he can supplant. if Dorsey walks he can fill in.

This is all crazy talk… Dorsey will be fine… this happens to us every year we get into a 2 or 3 game slump then we somehow manage to get back to our old self’s 

[newcam2012]

3 hours ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

What an idiotic statement. I’m sorry but that’s just pure stupidity. Let’s get rid of the coach who’s made us relevant after being doormats for how many years.

I get that and no doubt there is validity to your statement. I'm not so sure it's so outlandish. Sometimes changes result in progress. Let's wait and see how the team plays and the season plays out. 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

3 hours ago, Bangarang said:

I’d take him as OC right now. 

me too

 

[newcam2012]

13 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said:

Respectfully, this is a ridiculous opinion. This place is like chicken little after a loss. We have lost 2 games this year by a combined 5 points. It hurts that they are division losses, but the Jets and Dolphins are legit and the Bills got beat. It happens. You think the Pegula's are gonna dump the best coach in franchise history because they lost to the Jets?

 

Be real

I'm not suggesting that at all. I'm not overreacting to the Jet loss. Im not saying get rid of McD because the Bills lost to the Jets.

 

I'm saying if the Bills fall woefully short this year is it time to consider coaching changes? Is Coach McD the new Marty S? Will a coaching change jump start the team? Are there a viable coaches out there to replace Fraizer, Dorsey, or McD? 

[Victory Formation]

I would love it if he ended up in Buffalo.

4 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

Next years offensive assistant.

 

Then QB coach when Dorsey gets a HC job. 
 

Then OC when Brady gets a HC job. 

Yes.

[Sharky7337]

Won't be the first time he road the pine!

[Scott7975]

4 hours ago, newcam2012 said:

I think it might be time to consider coaching changes in Buffalo. Not mid season but after this year especially if the Bills under perform. Coach McD is good but sometimes a change is needed. Same goes with Fraizer. The Bills seem to be unable to get over the hump. I'm thinking someone like Sean Payton. I know it's a premature discussion. 

 

Sean Payton has had Drew Brees for almost his entire career and hasnt done anything McD hasnt done since 2009.

4 hours ago, DCofNC said:

HACKet is only lasting longer because they JUST signed him, if this was his 3rd year, he’d be gone too. 
 

Dorsey may still get looks this off-season, we’ll see what the rest of the year looks like.

 

Dorsey isnt getting any looks.

[BobbyC81]

5 hours ago, MJS said:

They should have actually tried to draft a QB instead of just going with old retreads every year.

They did.  They drafted Ehlinger!

[Bubba Gump]

Scapegoat for all the dumb moves that team has made.

[BuffaloBills1998]

3 hours ago, newcam2012 said:

I get that and no doubt there is validity to your statement. I'm not so sure it's so outlandish. Sometimes changes result in progress. Let's wait and see how the team plays and the season plays out. 

Again Payton ain’t coming here. And if Pegula fires McD especially after he’s had back to back multiple playoff appearances then that will only hurt us more and would make high profile coaches not want to come here. 

[newcam2012]

5 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

Again Payton ain’t coming here. And if Pegula fires McD especially after he’s had back to back multiple playoff appearances then that will only hurt us more and would make high profile coaches not want to come here. 

I think high profile coaches would be salivating to come to Buffalo. 

[BuffaloBills1998]

Just now, newcam2012 said:

I think high profile coaches would be salivating to come to Buffalo. 

I 100 percent doubt that. We’re lucky we got McDermott when we did. 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

13 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

Again Payton ain’t coming here. And if Pegula fires McD especially after he’s had back to back multiple playoff appearances then that will only hurt us more and would make high profile coaches not want to come here. 

[newcam2012]

12 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

I 100 percent doubt that. We’re lucky we got McDermott when we did. 

When you have a franchise QB like Allen trust me they will be lining up.

[DrPJax]

7 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

Feel bad for Frank.  Rough hand dealt with those Qbs.  Man , has anyone aged more than Frank other than the president ?  Job has taken a toll on him.  Seems like time to go enjoy family and his salary etc.    I will  never forget the comeback , resulted in a trip to Pasadena and first super bowl I was lucky to attend (52-17 and watching Frank play most of that game tho took some of the luster off!), and hope that comeback record always stands.  Best wishes,, thanks for the great memories. 

[BuffaloBills1998]

41 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

Ryan was never a high profile coach. He took mangini’s jets teams to the afc championship and after that the team fell apart and he couldn’t adjust

34 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

When you have a franchise QB like Allen trust me they will be lining up.

Really then humor me and tell me what High profile coach is available and is willing to go to Buffalo?

Edited November 8, 2022 by BuffaloBills1998

[Beast]

 Can he still play QB? We may need one.

[Repulsif]

Everytime I saw him on the Colts, I felt he was in pain

Kinda

Win or loose

I don't know

[Billsforumsucks]

4 hours ago, newcam2012 said:

He may not be an upgrade. It was only a suggestion. My point is it might be time to consider changing after this season. 

No necessarily. Especially if you have a franchise Qb like Allen. Look at what Daboll has done in NY. 

No, look at what a great RB coming off of an injury has done for NY.

[Billsforumsucks]

I am sure he was let go because they accepted ZACK MOSS for Hines. C'mon, any coach would be fired after making that deal!

[HOUSE]

He is a good coach, he won't be unemployed long

[hondo in seattle]

Sad but expected.   I'll always love the guy for The Comeback.

[newcam2012]

1 hour ago, Flucod said:

No, look at what a great RB coming off of an injury has done for NY.

Come on! You have to give Daboll tons of credit. 

[newcam2012]

2 hours ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

Ryan was never a high profile coach. He took mangini’s jets teams to the afc championship and after that the team fell apart and he couldn’t adjust

Really then humor me and tell me what High profile coach is available and is willing to go to Buffalo?

At this moment, I don't know. Things should be much clearer at the end of the year. My point really was Buffalo will be a highly sought after coaching position if available. Not who is available. Maybe Marv Levy comes back for a Super Bowl win.

[BuffaloBills1998]

8 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

At this moment, I don't know. Things should be much clearer at the end of the year. My point really was Buffalo will be a highly sought after coaching position if available. Not who is available. Maybe Marv Levy comes back for a Super Bowl win.

Marv levy🤣🤣🤣 cmon man. Guys 92 years old. Who in the hell is going to listen to him?? Buffalo will not be a highly sought place if McDermott gets fired

[frostbitmic]

Carolina, Denver, Houston and Vegas are teams where he'd be an upgrade

[newcam2012]

9 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

Marv levy🤣🤣🤣 cmon man. Guys 92 years old. Who in the hell is going to listen to him?? Buffalo will not be a highly sought place if McDermott gets fired

Lol. Let's just say Marv would have got it done in 13 seconds.

[BuffaloBills1998]

13 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

Lol. Let's just say Marv would have got it done in 13 seconds.

Yeah cause he did wonders when he was our GM

Edited November 8, 2022 by BuffaloBills1998

[balln]

 

[MJS]

7 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

Oh they should have tried to draft a QB?   Same ownership that reached an AFC Championship game with a veteran QB and then positioned themselves a couple years later to draft Peyton Manning and then Andrew Luck and subsequently had almost 20 years of mostly All Pro level QB play should have drafted a QB?    If Josh Allen retires unexpectedly in July with an expensive veteran team having been built around him then I guess Brandon Beane should have drafted a QB in round 1 of the 2023 draft as well.   If anyone knows how to re-set their QB position.........it's the Colts.   

"The Colts" don't know how to do anything. It's the general manager, coaches, and other front office staff. Those people who did those things are gone.

[Billsforumsucks]

37 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

Lol. Let's just say Marv would have got it done in 13 seconds.

But not in any SB, we were completely embarrassed in 3 of them and Marv missed the kick and was completely outcoached by Bill Parcells. McDermott has a better winning percentage then Marv, you guys understand that right?

1 hour ago, newcam2012 said:

Come on! You have to give Daboll tons of credit. 

He has them all on the same page, but if Saquan goes down they win another game.

[Nihilarian]

The Colts owner is a fool.

 

I get that the owner doesn't like to lose. Yet, look at the QBs his GM brought in, Rivers, Wentz, Ryan who were all stinking things up. 

 

That team will rock bottom now and be looking to draft a QB. 

[T master]

I wonder if they will bring him in to Jacksonville !! 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

14 hours ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

Ryan was never a high profile coach.

My contention was that Ryan would do his damnedest to get back within the good graces of One Bills Drive, should a coaching change be made.

[The Frankish Reich]

11 hours ago, Nihilarian said:

The Colts owner is a fool.

 

I get that the owner doesn't like to lose. Yet, look at the QBs his GM brought in, Rivers, Wentz, Ryan who were all stinking things up. 

 

That team will rock bottom now and be looking to draft a QB. 

Rivers was pretty damn good! Not in the playoffs, of course. 

[Gugny]

11 hours ago, Nihilarian said:

The Colts owner is a fool.

 

I get that the owner doesn't like to lose. Yet, look at the QBs his GM brought in, Rivers, Wentz, Ryan who were all stinking things up. 

 

That team will rock bottom now and be looking to draft a QB. 

 

The Bills had an owner and GMs like this for decades and were in the same boat.

[Georgia Bill]

21 hours ago, balln said:

 

I was stunned to read that he was replaced by someone with NO NFL or college coaching experience.  Found this:

 

"The Indianapolis Colts hired Jeff Saturday, who has never coached above the high school level, as their interim head coach on Monday. The move stunned fans, the news media and executives of other N.F.L. teams.

Saturday, most recently an ESPN analyst, was a two-time All-Pro center for the Colts and the Green Bay Packers over a 14-year career. But as a coach, his only job has been as an assistant and then the head coach at Hebron Christian Academy, a high school in Dacula, Ga., a suburb northeast of Atlanta. His record there was 20-16."

 

I lived in Dacula, GA for 14 years.  There is some pretty good high school football teams in the Atlanta metro area, but Dacula is a sleepy little suburb and the Hebron Christian academy football team was never taken seriously and was mostly laughed at by the big boy teams in the public schools.  How the hell he made the jump from there to being a head coach in the NFL is a real puzzler.

Edited November 9, 2022 by Georgia Bill
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