Buckets Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 20 hours ago, newcam2012 said: It's his eyes that are the problem not his arm. I was wondering the same thing. Didn't he have some problems a couple years ago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, Gugny said: McDermott’s mom could be in hospice and he’d say she was day to day. Would he be wrong? I imagine there is no more "day to day" than that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, 34-78-83 said: Also, cover1 (slack channel or not) has no inside track to the Bills medical related news Trust me, they do. There are times this year when I have known the status of injured players before it was officially announced. I don't usually post it here because I don't like posting injury speculation. I'm just doing it this time because it's obviously more important than usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasaluki Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 *gulp* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayray808 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 If Aaron and Greg from Cover 1 are using this as click bait, and there is nothing seriously wrong with his elbow, I am unfollowing the Pod. Not kidding. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toledo Bill Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Sorry I don’t know this but who the hell is Cover 1 and what type of reputation do they have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) 55 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Aaron and Greg and Erik from Cover 1 have all posted hints that there is bad news coming and that they are "sick to their stomach." They said they will say it when it's officially confirmed but they do not throw random rumors out there. I have a really bad feeling right now. Geez, I hope they're all wrong, but the post-game presser with Josh, he looked beyond just bummed about losing the game. The way he was talking and had his head down, I was like, this dude is seriously taking this hard. Even harder than the playoff loss in KC last year it seemed. It's almost like he already knew there was bad news going on with him. Edited November 7, 2022 by Billz4ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Just now, HappyDays said: Trust me, they do. There are times this year when I have known the status of injured players before it was officially announced. I don't usually post it here because I don't like posting injury speculation. I'm just doing it this time because it's obviously more important than usual. hmm. I certainly want to take your word for it, but it just makes no logical sense that they could have that info. They are in no way associated with the team. Unless there is a Bills staff member that's also a member of the slack channel. But then that person would be fired before long. Maybe they have a relationship with a player or two? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 12 minutes ago, Gugny said: McDermott’s mom could be in hospice and he’d say she was day to day. well, we're all day to day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Just now, 34-78-83 said: hmm. I certainly want to take your word for it, but it just makes no logical sense that they could have that info. They are in no way associated with the team. Unless there is a Bills staff member that's also a member of the slack channel. But then that person would be fired before long. Maybe they have a relationship with a player or two? They def. have some relationships with players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Just now, 34-78-83 said: hmm. I certainly want to take your word for it, but it just makes no logical sense that they could have that info. They are in no way associated with the team. Unless there is a Bills staff member that's also a member of the slack channel. But then that person would be fired before long. Maybe they have a relationship with a player or two? Erik Turner has personal relationships with many of the players. It's how they end up getting so many players to do film breakdowns on their channel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 When does McDermott have his presser? My office day has come to a grinding halt upon having the misfortune of checking this thread lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I didn’t say that he can’t. Just that made he could throttle back if he’s hurt Gotcha, ok that makes sense. Although I think if Josh is limited, they likely sit him rather than risk playing him through it which is why they traded for Keenum. Ultimate goal is to win a SB, so I think they would err on the side of caution with Allen rather than risk a bigger injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Tim Graham just retweeted this article: At the very least I am preparing for Allen to miss the Vikings game. I am just crossing my fingers the season isn't lost. Screw the #1 seed. Just give us Allen playing in December and deep into January. I can stomach that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 11 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Amateur bowling and an élite NFL QB play have so many commonalities. No, I think he terrible play and another loss in the AFCE will get him to refocus a lot sooner than a sore elbow. I even put the sentence in saying : I realize they are nothing similar other then the general idea of sharpening the mental aspect to cover up physical limitations due to pain but 🤷♂️I knew it would still be said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 8 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Josh last pass, and right after his elbow injury, traveled further than any pass in the NFL in 6 years and was right on the money and hit Davis literally in the face for him to drop it 70 yards downfield. But you think he can't throw deep? He could have partially torn his UCL and thrown that pass. That would qualify as an elbow sprain. I think he did that to some extent against Houston in 2019. Depending on how serious the tear is he could play thru that. Former Yankees pitcher Masahiro Tanaka partially tore his UCL and has pitched with it like that for like 6-7 years now. He intentionally doesn't throw as hard to protect it but would throw harder when he needed to. The UCL is more likely to tear entirely once it's partially torn and really never heals completely without reconstruction but he might be able to finish the season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, Toledo Bill said: Sorry I don’t know this but who the hell is Cover 1 and what type of reputation do they have? they have some really great content. Several excellent podcasts, And they have relationships it seems with some bills players and beat writers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Toledo Bill Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: they have some really great content. Several excellent podcasts, And they have relationships it seems with some bills players and beat writers. Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Well I'm officially terrified. Wtf. Books still have the Bills up at -7.5 fwiw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) Waiting for the bad news to drop like Edited November 7, 2022 by Roundybout 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 52 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Update is Allen has a right elbow sprain and is considered day to day? This is apparently a Rehab/Urgent Care Nurse from Selbyville, Delaware. Why do we think this is a credible insider source? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 I can’t imagine a scenario where we just played like complete garbage against the Jets and then beat a red hot 7-1 team with Keanum as the QB. In a world or on a team where you have an excellent run game to lean on and you can actually try and just feed a RB and not get killed by QB mistakes…fine. We have none of that. Josh is the running game too. If he can play even at 70%, he needs to because we are going to be a mess without him. Can’t keep giving up these regular season games because the Chiefs aren’t going to lose. If he can’t play then fine, it is what it is…but you have to stop just holding these guys back assuming our backups are good enough to win games. They are backups for a reason. We are being way to casual with these regular season games and not taking opponents seriously. We are going to ***** around and end up losing the division Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 3 hours ago, SectionC3 said: Don’t forget the throw over the middle that was a mess. It’s not about the accuracy. It’s about the decision making. And, right now, it’s bad. Concussions are funny things. Whether it’s a concussion or something else, he is way off right now. While I agree and the concussion theory has some merit in my book his footwork the last 2 weeks has been awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 7, 2022 Author Share Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) Just a rumor as of right now...but seems to be a lot of sharks circling in the water... Edited November 7, 2022 by Big Turk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Erik Turner just posted in the slack channel "Lots of info being floated around, but unable to confirm anything." I'm off the ledge a bit. I'm still expecting Allen to miss time though, too much smoke around it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 This whole vague tweet game blue check marks play is wayyyy more fun when it’s about trades and signings. They know the entire Twitter based Bills Mafia is now worried the season ended yesterday re: Allen, and it’s a fun little game of “I know something you don’t know”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) Most likely outcome is Allen missing 4-6 weeks, IMO That's a gut punch, but if we can win 3/6 and get to 9-5 when he returns after 6 weeks off we'll have a shot to make a run in the playoffs Not sure that's "sick to my stomach" type news though. It's bad, but typical NFL stuff The more important question is will the sprain heal in 6 weeks or will it still be an issue? Edited November 7, 2022 by TheFunPolice 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 9 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: He could have partially torn his UCL and thrown that pass. That would qualify as an elbow sprain. I think he did that to some extent against Houston in 2019. Depending on how serious the tear is he could play thru that. Former Yankees pitcher Masahiro Tanaka partially tore his UCL and has pitched with it like that for like 6-7 years now. He intentionally doesn't throw as hard to protect it but would throw harder when he needed to. The UCL is more likely to tear entirely once it's partially torn and really never heals completely without reconstruction but he might be able to finish the season. Gotcha, thanks for the insight into the injury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Just now, TheFunPolice said: Most likely outcome is Allen missing 4-6 weeks, IMO That's a gut punch, but if we can win 3/6 and get to 9-5 when he returns after 6 weeks off we'll have a shot to make a run in the playoffs Not sure that's "sick to my stomach" type news though. It's bad, but typical NFL stuff That would qualify as sick to my stomach news to people who aren’t worried the news is he’s done for the year. I would’ve been sick if I heard that this morning. Now that I’m worried we won’t see him until 2023, id breathe a sigh of relief over 3-6 weeks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Just a rumor as of right now...but seems to be a lot of sharks circling in the water... JoeyJetsNYJ always comes with the insider medical info on the Bills, you wouldn't expect it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: Most likely outcome is Allen missing 4-6 weeks, IMO That's a gut punch, but if we can win 3/6 and get to 9-5 when he returns after 6 weeks off we'll have a shot to make a run in the playoffs Not sure that's "sick to my stomach" type news though. It's bad, but typical NFL stuff The more important question is will the sprain heal in 6 weeks or will it still be an issue? I don't think you understand how bad our offense will be without Allen. Bottom 5 in the league. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterStrategist Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Still don't understand the team doctors allowing him back in...especially after Jets took a timeout. They can do preliminary UCL tests on the sideline, in <1 min 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 7 minutes ago, Beck Water said: This is apparently a Rehab/Urgent Care Nurse from Selbyville, Delaware. Why do we think this is a credible insider source? Bcuz its on twitter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Just a rumor as of right now...but seems to be a lot of sharks circling in the water... Ah yes, known NFL insider "JoeyJets" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 3 hours ago, strive_for_five_guy said: Were you saying this after the first half yesterday? He had the boneheaded INT, but otherwise looked pretty sharp in the first half (Two TDs and put them in FG position in under a minute). Did the cobwebs just disappear for the first half? Josh wasn't a sharp passer in the first half of the Jets game. I don't think he was sharp in the first half of the GB game either. Two big chunk plays match an otherwise underwhelming performance of 5/8, 38 yards, and a 1 yard TD to Knox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, SCBills said: That would qualify as sick to my stomach news to people who aren’t worried the news is he’s done for the year. I would’ve been sick if I heard that this morning. Now that I’m worried we won’t see him until 2023, id breathe a sigh of relief over 3-6 weeks. When it comes to elbow injuries, especially re-injuring that same UCL, my worry is Tommy John and his arm never being the same and not playing until 2024. So 4-6 weeks out would be amazing news. Perspective I suppose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I can’t imagine a scenario where we just played like complete garbage against the Jets and then beat a red hot 7-1 team with Keanum as the QB. In a world or on a team where you have an excellent run game to lean on and you can actually try and just feed a RB and not get killed by QB mistakes…fine. We have none of that. Josh is the running game too. If he can play even at 70%, he needs to because we are going to be a mess without him. Can’t keep giving up these regular season games because the Chiefs aren’t going to lose. If he can’t play then fine, it is what it is…but you have to stop just holding these guys back assuming our backups are good enough to win games. They are backups for a reason. We are being way to casual with these regular season games and not taking opponents seriously. We are going to ***** around and end up losing the division I wouldn't quantify the Vikings as a red hot team. Yes they have a 1 game better record than us, but their schedule has been weak and they struggled to beat lesser teams. We are two missed FGs from Bass from being potentially undefeated, but injuries are a concern obviously for us as we have a lot of defensive injuries and now a potential Allen elbow injury. But I wouldn't say we can't beat the Vikings with Keenum, they just barely beat the lowly Commanders with Heineke at QB. In fact, they have barely beaten a lot of bad teams who had backup QB's playing. We have a great team with a better backup than most, so I think if Allen had to sit this is still a winnable game, which is why they traded for Keenum in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: Most likely outcome is Allen missing 4-6 weeks, IMO That's a gut punch, but if we can win 3/6 and get to 9-5 when he returns after 6 weeks off we'll have a shot to make a run in the playoffs Not sure that's "sick to my stomach" type news though. It's bad, but typical NFL stuff The more important question is will the sprain heal in 6 weeks or will it still be an issue? Based on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 20 hours ago, Big Turk said: Looking up UCL Sprains, I am reading it could take several weeks to heal...f***king great. Allen had a similar injury in his rookie year and missed 4 games I believe. So I'm guessing that in Josh's rookie season, he might have come back sooner but they wanted him to sit and learn for a bit, after they got Derek Anderson and Matt Barkley into the building to model by example how an NFL QB needs to train and prepare during the week. But like any sprain, the real question is the severity. I think Josh had a Grade II or maybe III sprain his rookie season. Banged up is hoping for Grade 1 here, which means stretching but no or minimal tearing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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