DallasBillsFan1 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 It's the old Bill Parcells / Giants approach used to beat Buffalo in the Superbowl: ball control and time of possesion. Run the ball often and effectively thereby keeping the ball out of Josh's hands. That and putting A LOT of pressure on JA17. You saw Green Bay do it last week and now the Jets ... only Wilson had more production than A Rogers. You also saw that the Buffalo offense was not on the field for long periods of time last week and this week. Granted, Bills had an off day, but that makes two weeks in a row. Josh has regressed since the bye. Tough to watch that pile of dooty today ... all three phases were sub par. 2 3 5 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Just now, DallasBillsFan1 said: It's the old Bill Parcells / Giants approach used to beat Buffalo in the Superbowl: ball control and time of possesion. Run the ball often and effectively thereby keeping the ball out of Josh's hands. That and putting A LOT of pressure on JA17. You saw Green Bay do it last week and now the Jets ... only Wilson had more production than A Rogers. You also saw that the Buffalo offense was not on the field for long periods of time last week and this week. Granted, Bills had an off day, but that makes two weeks in a row. Josh has regressed since the bye. Tough to watch that pile of dooty today ... all three phases were sub par. And all that and STILL 6-2 tops in the AFCE Tops in the AFC. 3 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Cancel the season and move to Toronto 1 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Josh played like garbage; that's the formula for our loss today. When he returns to form, we'll be winning by double digits again. 1 minute ago, Mrbojanglezs said: Cancel the season and move to Toronto 3 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Brown Eye Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Mrbojanglezs said: Cancel the season and move to Toronto Not until Bon Jovi buys the team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, DallasBillsFan1 said: It's the old Bill Parcells / Giants approach used to beat Buffalo in the Superbowl: ball control and time of possesion. Run the ball often and effectively thereby keeping the ball out of Josh's hands. That and putting A LOT of pressure on JA17. You saw Green Bay do it last week and now the Jets ... only Wilson had more production than A Rogers. You also saw that the Buffalo offense was not on the field for long periods of time last week and this week. Granted, Bills had an off day, but that makes two weeks in a row. Josh has regressed since the bye. Tough to watch that pile of dooty today ... all three phases were sub par. It only “works” if 17 gives the ball away. Keep giving away points other teams can hang around. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 (edited) That will not work effectively for more than a few games. Allen is not going to continue playing like this. Edited November 6, 2022 by Big Turk 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaru523 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 (edited) That strategy works very well when almost half of our starters on D are out, but what happens when we're 'mostly' healthy? *Had to edit due to all the chicken littles on this board. Edited November 7, 2022 by Amaru523 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 We can't run and other teams can run on us. Sound familiar. 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Returntoglory Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 5 minutes ago, DallasBillsFan1 said: It's the old Bill Parcells / Giants approach used to beat Buffalo in the Superbowl: ball control and time of possesion. Run the ball often and effectively thereby keeping the ball out of Josh's hands. That and putting A LOT of pressure on JA17. You saw Green Bay do it last week and now the Jets ... only Wilson had more production than A Rogers. You also saw that the Buffalo offense was not on the field for long periods of time last week and this week. Granted, Bills had an off day, but that makes two weeks in a row. Josh has regressed since the bye. Tough to watch that pile of dooty today ... all three phases were sub par. And expect the QB to throw like *****! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 There is truth there, but Allen still threw that INT on the 1st drive of the game. The Jets won today because of this: - Strong Jets D-Line - Careless and overconfident Allen - Milano/Poyer out - Giving Wilson an easy game (little blitz, easy outlet/screen passes, wide open runs for 1st down) - Poor run defense - Davis drops - Not even attempting a running game The Jets have good trenches. My opinion is that we lose today because Allen was careless and Wilson wasn't tested. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Just now, Amaru523 said: That strategy works very well when almost half of our starters on D are out, but what happens when we're healthy? I don’t know. You tell me. Can we get healthy? Issues on this team right now go far beyond injuries. Allen-Dorsey-WR2 is a massive issue right now and they are all intertwined. Run Defense has been a mid-season problem for years under McD. Good news is he usually figures it out. Bad news, mid-season lulls are why we havent yet escape postseason games at Arrowhead. 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 We just need “one more piece on defense”…🙄 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, Amaru523 said: That strategy works very well when almost half of our starters on D are out, but what happens when we're healthy? And that didn't really matter. Josh was hot garbage; we will lose every time he plays that poorly. And we'll likely win, probably by a lot, when is all world. It's all Josh, all the time. It always was. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Josh sucked. If he plays like we know he can, we’ll be fine. If he doesn’t, our season is over. We had a mid season offensive funk this time last year. Hopefully we can figure it out 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfandBills Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Right side of OL is garbage and offense has zero weapons outside of Diggs. Not sure it’s hard for the NFL to figure that out 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasBillsFan1 Posted November 6, 2022 Author Share Posted November 6, 2022 1 minute ago, SCBills said: Allen-Dorsey-WR2 is a massive issue right now and they are all intertwined. THIS. I'm not liking Dorsey's play calling. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaru523 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 1 minute ago, SCBills said: I don’t know. You tell me. Can we get healthy? Issues on this team right now go far beyond injuries. Allen-Dorsey-WR2 is a massive issue right now and they are all intertwined. Run Defense has been a mid-season problem for years under McD. Good news is he usually figures it out. Bad news, mid-season lulls are why we havent yet escape postseason games at Arrowhead. Why can't they get healthy? Other than Hyde, none of the injuries are season ending. Unless they're extremely unlucky they should be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nato7412 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 A way we have been figured out is that teams are doubling Stefon diggs and putting they’re cb1 on gabe. Gabe hasn’t done well and McKenzie hasn’t preformed consistently enough. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 This “blueprint” isn’t exclusive to beating us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Big Turk said: That will not work effectively for more than a few games. Allen is not going to continue playing like this. The board is going to be ugly this week. I think Im going to go find a bunker and wait it out lol Edited November 6, 2022 by muppy 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Dave Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 7 minutes ago, Amaru523 said: That strategy works very well when almost half of our starters on D are out, but what happens when we're healthy? How in the world does ANYONE think there's some magical day "when we're healthy". We will NEVER be fully healthly. Not for more than 5 minutes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaru523 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: And that didn't really matter. Josh was hot garbage; we will lose every time he plays that poorly. And we'll likely win, probably by a lot, when is all world. It's all Josh, all the time. It always was. Disagree. If we had Poyer and Milano today, we win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Its not a blueprint if Frazier adjusts his defence, but I’m afraid he won’t. Why he won’t get out of nickel against heavy packages, or bring pressure all game against a guy who had a 19 passer rating against pressure is just mind boggling to me. I think the Jets had three , 7-8 minute drives today 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, whorlnut said: We just need “one more piece on defense”…🙄 Meanwhile we draft a crap olinemen in the 2nd round and trade him for a bag of peanuts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaru523 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Just now, Irish Dave said: How in the world does ANYONE think there's some magical day "when we're healthy". We will NEVER be fully healthly. Not for more than 5 minutes Sorry, should've said "mostly" healthy 🙄. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nato7412 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Additionally I think another receiver and maybe it’s Hines but with the deadline having passed, likely obj, could be very beneficial to this offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Josh is throwing picks like a rookie QB. Lack of running game, screen game, and anything but drop back passing is gonna hurt them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRiderBills Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 I think we're still struggling to overcome the loss of Beasley as a 3rd down outlet. We've never found a guy who can make up for Beezers ability to consistently be that short outlet. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Dave Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 5 minutes ago, SCBills said: I don’t know. You tell me. Can we get healthy? Issues on this team right now go far beyond injuries. Allen-Dorsey-WR2 is a massive issue right now and they are all intertwined. Run Defense has been a mid-season problem for years under McD. Good news is he usually figures it out. Bad news, mid-season lulls are why we havent yet escape postseason games at Arrowhead. Dorsey seems to be a control freak perfectionist - as evidenced by his outburst after Miami. And that carries over into Josh's play. One mistake builds on top of another and gets in his head. Plus that stupid mustache. He's reading too much of his own press. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 All teams go through tough times when things aren't working. The Pats had it with Brady when they'd start the season with a couple of losses and people would say that's it for them. The Chiefs were blanked in one game last year and everyone said Mahomes was figured out. NFL defensive coordinators are good at what they do and will eventually scheme to stop certain things. the key is how well your coaches can go away and make changes that negate what other teams are doing. We'll see what McD and Dorsey can do. And yes, as others have said, Josh needs to play smarter and not turn the ball over as much 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NORWOODS FOOT Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 I'm sad 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Dave Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 1 minute ago, RichRiderBills said: I think we're still struggling to overcome the loss of Beasley as a 3rd down outlet. We've never found a guy who can make up for Beezers ability to consistently be that short outlet. I agree. Singletary is there, but he's always standing still when he catches the short balls. I can't remember being this frustrated for a WHOLE game in a long time. Starting with the INT in the red zone. That's 2 weeks in a row he throws INT on first drive in red zone. That's points lost. That's the game. Just now, NORWOODS FOOT said: I'm sad Waterrose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: Meanwhile we draft a crap olinemen in the 2nd round and trade him for a bag of peanuts. It’s bad. It just pisses me off that we have a qb like Allen and then give him Diggs but beyond that give him JAGs. Meanwhile…the d gets every resource thrown at it. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: Its not a blueprint if Frazier adjusts his defence, but I’m afraid he won’t. Why he won’t get out of nickel against heavy packages, or bring pressure all game against a guy who had a 19 passer rating against pressure is just mind boggling to me. I think the Jets had three , 7-8 minute drives today Ask the right person. McD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 1 minute ago, ScottLaw said: Defense? They scored 17 points on offense. How does anyone blame the defense? Offence was horrible, it’s not relative to the post in terms of the TOP and bill parcels reference to this thread. But when the defence is constantly getting gashed for 7-8 minute drives and they let up a game winning 90 yard drive that chews off 7 minutes while burning 3 time outs, they deserve a lot of blame. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Yep, end the season, fire McDermott, Beane, etc. Trade Josh for a bag of footballs. Sell the franchise to Billings, Montana. It's all over!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Just now, whorlnut said: It’s bad. It just pisses me off that we have a qb like Allen and then give him Diggs but beyond that give him JAGs. Meanwhile…the d gets every resource thrown at it. You will just have to accept ketchup boi and like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 If the blueprint is pressure JA & hope he forces the issue anyway, then sure... But hopefully he can get back to basics & settle on taking what the defense gives him again. Check downs, screens, slants, etc. just things that help keep the ball moving while helping him get in rhythm. He also needs to stop with the casual throws in bounds when he should be throwing the ball away. He's had what, 3x 2 INT games? Even had a couple fumbles now too. It wasn't great before, but at least we managed to win in spite of them. Now they're really concerning 😟 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NORWOODS FOOT Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Irish Dave said: I agree. Singletary is there, but he's always standing still when he catches the short balls. I can't remember being this frustrated for a WHOLE game in a long time. Starting with the INT in the red zone. That's 2 weeks in a row he throws INT on first drive in red zone. That's points lost. That's the game. Waterrose? Not sure what Waterrose means... Logically I know I need to see how the season plays out, but damn I'm dealing with some Bills Mafia PTSD right now... Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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