FilthyBeast Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 57 minutes ago, ngbills said: Wow. Guess nobody is taking the Jets serious. The Bills are 13 point favorites on the road vs the 5-3, 2nd place Jets who are winners of 4 of last 5. Seems like a really high spread for a game like this. No way I am betting against the Bills though... Jets are frauds and have beat nobody but a bunch of teams with mostly back up QB back up playing when they won. And considering they play the Bills x2, @ NE and @MIN in 4 of their next 5 their season is pretty much over. Nice story to their start this year but felt all along they are at least a year (and probably a QB) away from being a real contender. If anything it's still the Dolphins, and possibly the Patriots, who could challenge the Bills for the division if there are any slip ups along the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 They've already named Zac Wilson the starter for Sunday. They have no chance against Buffalo's defense with that guy under center. Just an average Josh Allen day on Sunday should see us leave town with an easy 14 point win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: Jets are frauds and have beat nobody but a bunch of teams with mostly back up QB back up playing when they won. And considering they play the Bills x2, @ NE and @MIN in 4 of their next 5 their season is pretty much over. Nice story to their start this year but felt all along they are at least a year (and probably a QB) away from being a real contender. If anything it's still the Dolphins, and possibly the Patriots, who could challenge the Bills for the division if there are any slip ups along the way. They did blowout Miami 40-17 a few weeks ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Lewes Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Is this one of those times when a mod steps in and tells you you've got a misleading thread title?? The jets peaked two games ago. Next weekend is going to be ugly for them. Angry Josh is Dangerous Josh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Greg S said: They did blowout Miami 40-17 a few weeks ago. Yes with their 3rd string rookie QB playing, and despite that the game was still within one score in the 4th quarter before things completely unraveled for the them. Like I said, Jets hot start this year was a good story but it's as misleading as it gets when you look at the bigger picture and how/who the wins came against. Zack Wilson is also another bad game away from probably being benched for Mike White, in fact won't be surprised if he's benched during the game against us this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 IMO, the Jets defense is playing at a legit, playoff caliber level. However, the offense, especially after the loss of Hall and Vera-Tucker, is terrible. Wilson may be the worst starting QB in the league and seems to have regressed from a weak rookie season. Unless Wilson steps up against the Bills, I think he'll be benched for Mike White in an attempt to save the season. I believe the Bills offense could have a tough time versus the Jets defense, but it might not matter if the Bills defense creates turnovers and punts, which will allow Buffalo to wear down the Jets defense. 24-10 Bills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 The Jets have made some decent strides. Winning NFL games is tough no matter the opponent or QB. The Jets have won 5 of 8, which is far better than they have been able to manage for like a decade. Their QB seems to be their biggest weakness. The Jets arent ready to truly compete with the upper echelon of the league though. If they get a bunch of bounces and calls, they could stand a chance to win a flukey game against the Bills... but odds are that is not going to happen. All things equal, especially without Hall, their offense cant even imagine trading punches with the Josh Allen offense. That's said ignoring that the Bills have one of the best defenses in the league as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 The Jets have a solid defensive line and Sauce seems to be legit. However, have you seen Wilson throw the ball? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haslett_Stomp Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, Max Fischer said: IMO, the Jets defense is playing at a legit, playoff caliber level. However, the offense, especially after the loss of Hall and Vera-Tucker, is terrible. Wilson may be the worst starting QB in the league and seems to have regressed from a weak rookie season. Unless Wilson steps up against the Bills, I think he'll be benched for Mike White in an attempt to save the season. I believe the Bills offense could have a tough time versus the Jets defense, but it might not matter if the Bills defense creates turnovers and punts, which will allow Buffalo to wear down the Jets defense. 24-10 Bills It will be interesting watching "Sauce" attempt to cover Diggs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: Yes with their 3rd string rookie QB playing, and despite that the game was still within one score in the 4th quarter before things completely unraveled for the them. Like I said, Jets hot start this year was a good story but it's as misleading as it gets when you look at the bigger picture and how/who the wins came against. Zack Wilson is also another bad game away from probably being benched for Mike White, in fact won't be surprised if he's benched during the game against us this week. I live in NJ and the media and fans are starting to turn on him. I was at the game and Jets fans in my section were calling for Mike White. I also wouldn't be surprised if Zach gets benched vs the Bills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Big Turk said: They are winning games by hiding Zach Wilson. You can't take a team seriously when they are doing that. He also is still making God Awful decisions with the ball. and without Breece Hall their running game has take a step or two backwards. The Bills just have to take care of the ball and score points when in the redzone and should win. 12 minutes ago, Virgil said: The Jets have a solid defensive line and Sauce seems to be legit. However, have you seen Wilson throw the ball? That throw that didn't make it out of bounds and lead to an interception was inexcusable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 It's between Mills in Houston and Wilson for worst starting NFL QB. I think Wilson has more natural ability than Mills but might not be able to handle the mental side of the game which is what ultimately separates the pretenders from the real NFL QBs. The Jets will be back in the QB sweepstakes again next year with a pick around 8-10 and outside the sweet spot for a franchise QB and needing to spend more valuable draft capital to get up into the top of the draft. The question now is does Wilson take JD down with him? The most important thing a GM does is draft and develop a QB and JD has not done a very good job of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Woof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, The Frankish Reich said: Yep. I actually like what I’ve seen of him talent-wise. Pretty mobile, very good arm and accuracy, etc. But still very much playing like a rookie. Really? I thought he's been mediocre at best. You can't expect a franchise guy to get away with throwing for 120 yards a game. We need to have a reckoning that Miami is the second-best team in the AFCE and it isn't particularly close. Edited October 31, 2022 by Roundybout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1onemangang7 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 That's what happens when you're every greedy square's desire for a payday. The oddsmaker taxes the publics beloved. Jets had only one game to adjust without their workhorse . To underestimate them would be a mistake. They will take it serious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 hour ago, hemma said: Wonder how much the line would change if Saleh decides to go with Flacco. Probably not at all, but it looks like if Wilson does get benched or hurt it's going to be the Mike White show again there based on moving him up the depth chart over Flacco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 3 hours ago, ngbills said: Wow. Guess nobody is taking the Jets serious. The Bills are 13 point favorites on the road vs the 5-3, 2nd place Jets who are winners of 4 of last 5. Seems like a really high spread for a game like this. No way I am betting against the Bills though... What do you seriously think the spread should be? One team is winning on Defense and a run game - now minus their best runner and OL that just let Mac Jones move down the field on them to the tune of 6 scoring drives. One team has a top ranked offense and defense and has beaten the previous SB winner, and the division leaders of the AFC divisions one the road for 2 of the 3. 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ngbills Posted October 31, 2022 Author Share Posted October 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said: What do you seriously think the spread should be? One team is winning on Defense and a run game - now minus their best runner and OL that just let Mac Jones move down the field on them to the tune of 6 scoring drives. One team has a top ranked offense and defense and has beaten the previous SB winner, and the division leaders of the AFC divisions one the road for 2 of the 3. 🤷♂️ I would have guess closer to 7-8. Another way to ask is what would the spread be at home vs the Jets? 16-20? Rarely do you see that kind of spread. What about vs a team like HOU, DET, CAR in Buffalo - 25? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 As long as we score at least one more point than they do, I'm happy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) Ken Dorsey presser Asked a couple of questions about the Jets D Very vanilla answers , they've put together a great group, coaches doing a great job, go sideline to sideline, Sauce Gardner has great instincts Whoever that guy is from Challenger Community News asked why we don't run the football inside the 10 yd line but instead put it in Josh's hands. Thought it was a bit strange given that 1 of our 2 TDs from the Redzone was essentially a handoff (Jet Sweep) where McKenzie actually did a very nice job freezing the defender with a little shift move long enough to squirt by him. I grant that McKenzie isn't an RB but it was a run and was scored as a rush TD. Dorsey called out Diggs for good blocking on that 😄 Edited October 31, 2022 by Beck Water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 https://www.audacy.com/wgr550/sports/bills/bills-will-activate-white-evaluating-injuries-to-poyer-milano?utm_campaign=sharebutton&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_term=WGRAM Still can't find McD's presser but here's a summation Quote The Buffalo Bills intend to activate cornerback Tre'Davious White from the Physically Unable to Perform list (PUP) this week, but head coach Sean McDermott said White will be considered day-to-day after he returns to the active 53-man roster and won't speculate on whether or not he will play for the team Sunday at MetLife Stadium against the New York Jets. McDermott also said that the team is still evaluating the severity of safety Jordan Poyer's elbow injury and that linebacker Matt Milano suffered an oblique injury and is also still being evaluated. Poyer left the game early in the fourth quarter and didn't return. He said after the game that the injury is to the same elbow that kept him out several weeks during the preseason, but it's not the same injury. He said he "felt a pop" and would have to await MRI results. Milano finished the game and played every defensive snap in the team's 27-17 win over the Green Bay Packers Sunday night. David Quessenberry was observed coming out of the x-ray room as Poyer was going in, but he also played 100% of the offensive snaps. Apparently no one asked about him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 4 hours ago, ngbills said: Wow. Guess nobody is taking the Jets serious. The Bills are 13 point favorites on the road vs the 5-3, 2nd place Jets who are winners of 4 of last 5. Seems like a really high spread for a game like this. No way I am betting against the Bills though... for thinking that is a possibility Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Just heard on WGR that Milano has an oblique injury. no details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 4 hours ago, Warcodered said: Fun thread on Jets forum https://forums.jetnation.com/topic/169433-white-or-wilson-versus-buffalo/ guess they have a short memory on the Mike White game last year. A poster acknowledges the existence of trap games! I knew they existed! Another poster says Bills look like champions against the Packers. That board is more positive about the Bills than we are here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realist Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 4 hours ago, ngbills said: I'm just saying 13 points is huge on the road. The Jets beat GB a couple weeks ago in GB by 17 and put up 40 on a good MIA defense. Not worried that the Bills win this game or think the Jets are even close to us. But 13 points... If you're worried about the spread, don't bet. Or, if you're into gambling, take the Jets. There you go, no worries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 50 minutes ago, Beck Water said: Ken Dorsey presser Asked a couple of questions about the Jets D Very vanilla answers , they've put together a great group, coaches doing a great job, go sideline to sideline, Sauce Gardner has great instincts Whoever that guy is from Challenger Community News asked why we don't run the football inside the 10 yd line but instead put it in Josh's hands. Thought it was a bit strange given that 1 of our 2 TDs from the Redzone was essentially a handoff (Jet Sweep) where McKenzie actually did a very nice job freezing the defender with a little shift move long enough to squirt by him. I grant that McKenzie isn't an RB but it was a run and was scored as a rush TD. Dorsey called out Diggs for good blocking on that 😄 That McKenzie run where he stopped in his tracks and then scooted into the end zone looked like a video game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonyab1974 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 😆Sure they won 5 games, but so what? The Bills can beat them!!!! THE BILLS CAN DO IT! They won 6 games! GO BILLS!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Fan Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Look we have 1 day left to make t his happen, with how Wilson played we can DEFINITELY get him in a trade for Moss and a 5th. We need back up QB competition. Get it done Beane! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Jets D is for real and they’re a division opponent that knows us well and they’re at home. That spread borders on ludicrous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 2 hours ago, ngbills said: I would have guess closer to 7-8. Another way to ask is what would the spread be at home vs the Jets? 16-20? Rarely do you see that kind of spread. What about vs a team like HOU, DET, CAR in Buffalo - 25? I think since the 2nd best team in the AFC was a home dog to this Bills team - I have no issue with spread. The spread is designed for betting and after getting beat by the Pats and what they showed - I would expect a 10+ point win. The Jets are right on par with Pittsburgh and that was 2 TDs. We will see with Detroit on Thanksgiving, but I would assume 17+ with the others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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