DaggersEOD Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 53 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: It is actually Criminal that Leslie Frazier is still here as a DC (good for us) instead of HC somewhere. No one wants an older, Defensive Minded “re-tread” as their HC. Unfortunately for Fraiser it’s all about getting young fresh talent and Offense minds these days. He’d be a tough sell to any fan base looking to turn their franchise around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Just now, DaggersEOD said: No one wants an older, Defensive Minded “re-tread” as their HC. Unfortunately for Fraiser it’s all about getting young fresh talent and Offense minds these days. He’d be a tough sell to any fan base looking to turn their franchise around. And it is why most of those teams will continue to recycle their coaches every 3 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, Dr. K said: Idiot Tim Graham over at The Athletic singles out this play as a sign of Jackson's greatness, as if being saved by a miracle from an interception is some sign of his prowess, a "pinpoint heave" that "made possible" the catch. People want to find meaning in the randomness. That was a bounce that went their way. when Andrews broke up that INT, he had no way of knowing that it would shoot straight into the arms of Duvernay. Also, why doesn't Buffalo have any homers in its local sports media? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaggersEOD Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Just now, MAJBobby said: And it is why most of those teams will continue to recycle their coaches every 3 years. I agree completely. Look what getting a D minded coach did for us. It’s probably the right choice a lot of times. But even in the Bills instance, we still got a young guy with energy. Leslie just doesn’t SEEM to bring that and in the hyper media world sports lives in, that would probably leave him off of most short lists. Im not sure of a route that gives him another HC opportunity. Great for the Bills but must be frustrating for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, DaggersEOD said: I agree completely. Look what getting a D minded coach did for us. It’s probably the right choice a lot of times. But even in the Bills instance, we still got a young guy with energy. Leslie just doesn’t SEEM to bring that and in the hyper media world sports lives in, that would probably leave him off of most short lists. Im not sure of a route that gives him another HC opportunity. Great for the Bills but must be frustrating for him. I agree the other teams loss is our gain with being able to keep him as DC 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 1 hour ago, KDIGGZ said: How many adjustments do you think they have time to make? They barely have enough time to go to the bathroom at halftime 💩 Clearly they are playing much better in the 2nd half of games but I don't know if you can adjust THAT much given the time constraints. They need to play better to start the game because I doubt this 2nd half run will be able to withstand through the entire season. In game adjustments in the 1st half would be nice to see The coaches have plenty of time to discuss strategic adjustments in the playcalling…there’s not a whole lot of time to address the players though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Wait...this can't be right. I was told on this very board that McDermott's poor coaching is becoming a theme. Said it right on this forum so it must be true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: It is actually Criminal that Leslie Frazier is still here as a DC (good for us) instead of HC somewhere. 13 seconds has everything to do with him still being here. If the Bills come thru and win the SB, he will be as good as gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Jauronimo said: Thats two consecutive games Milano could have made a game changing INT and managed to do nothing. Get him in front of a juggs machine. Those jugg machines have an artificial feel. They're just not like the real thing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 55 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said: People want to find meaning in the randomness. That was a bounce that went their way. when Andrews broke up that INT, he had no way of knowing that it would shoot straight into the arms of Duvernay. Also, why doesn't Buffalo have any homers in its local sports media? Matt Parrino is probably the closest you'll get to a homer. I really enjoy his podcast, "Shout!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 They made adjustments offensively too. Yesterday, for example, they seemed to go more uptempo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Jauronimo said: Thats two consecutive games Milano could have made a game changing INT and managed to do nothing. Get him in front of a juggs machine. Speaking of dropped "gimme" interceptions, if Patrick Queen makes that easy pick with 1:03 left in the first half, we most likely don't walk out of Baltimore with the win. That was a huge break for the Bills that no one seemed to mention post game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 2 hours ago, MAJBobby said: It is actually Criminal that Leslie Frazier is still here as a DC (good for us) instead of HC somewhere. He's had several interviews for a HC job, plus it would be a good thing for the league to see another black HC, and yet he STILL can't get a job. I don't know what the problem is. He seems very quiet on the sidelines so maybe it's just a personality thing, where other teams owners or GMs don't light up after talking to him. Or maybe other teams are focused on hiring the next very young genius type. Who knows. I have to agree he certainly seems to have earned another shot somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: And it is why most of those teams will continue to recycle their coaches every 3 years. Still, it doesn’t change why he isn’t being seriously considered. LF is a good coach, and more importantly a good person, but that is in this case not good enough, so far…, if he gets a ring, the dynamic may change, and then, bobs your uncle…, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 23 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Those jugg machines have an artificial feel. They're just not like the real thing. Milano might have been the Bills best player yesterday, considering the entire game's production. Sure Allen did great but he didn't start out playing great. Milano has been showing us all his extension was a great move. The dropped INT against Miami was the really disappointing miss. As for JUGGS, if Milano had great hands he'd be a tight end. As it is he's one more excellent piece of the puzzle for this great defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: Still, it doesn’t change why he isn’t being seriously considered. LF is a good coach, and more importantly a good person, but that is in this case not good enough, so far…, if he gets a ring, the dynamic may change, and then, bobs your uncle…, I also think there is a bit of, well that is McD defense going on as well, I am sure he has a shadow from McD a bit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 2 hours ago, Logic said: Leslie Frazier is certainly the Eric Bienemy of Leslie Fraziers. Bienemy is sort of a jerk. Frazier is a class act all the time. If I were a player I don't think I'd want Bienemy as the HC, but I think Frazier would be a dream come true. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayboy54 Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, KDIGGZ said: How many adjustments do you think they have time to make? They barely have enough time to go to the bathroom at halftime 💩 They have enough time to get a hotdog and a beer. Edited October 3, 2022 by clayboy54 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Lets look at the 10 new HC this season Lovie Smith (Defensive Mind) - 2 time HC before the hire career .500 coach - Yep Frazier would be better here. Matt Eberflus Defensive Mind) - First time HC, young, work hard type coach (similar to the Lions coach) - Sure ok hard to say here going young vs Frazier I get it here. Doug Pederson (Offensive Mind) - I get this one, get a guy that has history of developing QBs with Lawrence. Brain Daboll (Offensive Mind) - I get it another offense (thanks you Josh for turning him into a QB whisperer I guess) to team with Jones or new QB in future makes sense. Kevin O'Connell (Offensive Mind) - I get this wasnt going to be Frazier coming back to Min. This is a hire to try and salvage Cousins Mike McDaniel (Offensive Mind) - I get this too left a winning Defensive Minded coach and this hire was all about maximizing Tua Nathaniel Hackett (Offensive Mind) - I never will get the Buzz and hype with this guy, Frazier would have been the better hire here. Dennis Allen (Defensive Mind) - Former HC as well so second stint. One could have made the argument for Frazier here as well. Josh McDaniels (Offensive Mind) - Like hackett I dont get the love for this guy, second HC stint, and will fail here too IMO (Frazier would have been a better hire for the Raider) Todd Bowles (Defensive Mind) - 2nd Stint as HC already, but this hire is different than others, this hire was dictated by Brady to come back. SO looking at this list from last year there is a case that can be made Frazier would be better for at least 3 of these teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshynman Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 The adjustment started in the 2nd quarter. We started blitzing on 3rd down. The extra pressure eventually got Lamar off his rhythm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 1 hour ago, njbuff said: 13 seconds has everything to do with him still being here. If the Bills come thru and win the SB, he will be as good as gone. Probably equal parts his previous failed head coaching gig. Most guys don’t get multiple chances anymore. Teams seem more likely to look for a young guy these days than give a retread another shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 And if the Ravens went 95 and did score on 4th down and the Bills subsequently lost, we'd complain that the Defence did not get that one stop...... 😉 Yes if & buts.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In Summary Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 3 hours ago, MAJBobby said: It is actually Criminal that Leslie Frazier is still here as a DC (good for us) instead of HC somewhere. Same with Eric Bieniemy. Guys not getting differentiation between themselves and their head coaches. Frazier would stand out more with the Chiefs and Bieniemy more with the Bills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, MAJBobby said: McDaniels was the Definition of a BAD HC not Frazier and where is he now again? So Again it is Criminal he hasnt gotten a HC job, heck he hardly gets interviews You don't do an inadvisable thing just because someone else did an inadvisable thing. Edited October 3, 2022 by Malazan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Ed Oliver has played 1 snap in the 2nd half this season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Watching the game through the 1st half had me a bit stressed. But truly I said to myself, lets see how Frazier and Dorsey adjust. and damn if they both didn't. And for the better ! This is darned good fun to be a Bills believer these days. Go Bills ! Ps thanks to the OP for the fact i did not know. Impressive as heck 😀 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Aa Von tells everyone, "Don't Blink". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 8 hours ago, MAJBobby said: It is actually Criminal that Leslie Frazier is still here as a DC (good for us) instead of HC somewhere. 8 hours ago, MAJBobby said: McDaniels was the Definition of a BAD HC not Frazier and where is he now again? So Again it is Criminal he hasnt gotten a HC job, heck he hardly gets interviews 8 hours ago, MAJBobby said: Now what has been comin out about Bienemy in recent years, then the criminal stuff in the past, I could really see teams shying away from there. But a team like say the Commanders that really get not only a good coach but a good person and once that can go along way to change culture while being the coach one of of the NFLs top defense since he has been here. Really should get him at least multiple interviews we have to sweat. This coming from a guy that understands the current league is all offense and history of developing QBs. I dont know just criminal IMO he is still the Bills DC 5 hours ago, Utah John said: He's had several interviews for a HC job, plus it would be a good thing for the league to see another black HC, and yet he STILL can't get a job. I don't know what the problem is. He seems very quiet on the sidelines so maybe it's just a personality thing, where other teams owners or GMs don't light up after talking to him. Or maybe other teams are focused on hiring the next very young genius type. Who knows. I have to agree he certainly seems to have earned another shot somewhere. IMO opinion the way Leslie gets a Head Coach job is by having a team with a bright young OC who team does not want to lose and had a couple of years left on contract. During interview Leslie tells owners and GM that he thinks OC is doing a great job and will keep him and any offense coaches he wants to keep. He also wants OC to be assistant HC and it will be a true partnership. Then he will go into all of the lessons he learned under Coach McD and hopes to transform this team using that model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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John from Riverside Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 When you factor in the injuries it is scary how good this team might actually be 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 39 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: When you factor in the injuries it is scary how good this team might actually be might be. Is. Take the 3 or 4 deep passes away and even the rookies played very well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 10 hours ago, KDIGGZ said: I think this is his last year as DC. You can't have the top defense 2 years in a row and not get another HC job, especially considering there is a rule that teams have to interview you. It will be well deserved and the players have a lot of respect for him. I could see him going to Carolina or Washington. Bears would have been a perfect fit last year so if he doesn't leave this year maybe they will have another opening in 2 years. I dunno. He has been a head coach before and he is old. Most teams want a young offensive minded guy. Although Bowles did get the TB gig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 (edited) On 10/3/2022 at 9:32 PM, Scott7975 said: I dunno. He has been a head coach before and he is old. Most teams want a young offensive minded guy. Although Bowles did get the TB gig. Let Terry pile money on his doorstep and McBeanenes throw accolades upon him for another 5 years. he's a keeper. and he wont get treated any better than he does in Buffalo if he keeps doing what he is doing and gets us to and through the Big One. I want to see this Defense continue to improve. they have slowly gotten all around better with McBeanes and Company Slowly ! But surely. This year is feeling like the Cake is made and the icing is getting ready to be applied edited for idiocy spelled Terry P Perry yikes Edited October 6, 2022 by 3rdand12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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