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behind a post WMS69 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 On 10/16/2022 at 11:01 PM, John from Riverside said: Only until Nick Wright says it Nick "Never" Wright! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finn Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 On 10/17/2022 at 9:20 PM, Warcodered said: If anything, Allen's play is being under-rated. There is only one other blue-chip player on offense: Diggs. The rest of the team is good but not elite, and some players, including two-third of the offensive line, are below average. With a Tannehill or Goff at QB, this would be a mediocre offense, although the good coaching might kick it up to average. Allen makes everyone else look better than they would be. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 Do we really want Allen to win the MVP? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Associated_Press_NFL_Most_Valuable_Player_Award#MVP_Super_bowl_curse 20 minutes ago, finn said: If anything, Allen's play is being under-rated. There is only one other blue-chip player on offense: Diggs. The rest of the team is good but not elite, and some players, including two-third of the offensive line, are below average. With a Tannehill or Goff at QB, this would be a mediocre offense, although the good coaching might kick it up to average. Allen makes everyone else look better than they would be. To be fair, Goff is actually having a pretty good season and besides Henry, the titans don’t have many weapons. I think Davis is a stud and Onox has flashes, but you are right that the offense isn’t Insanely talented. But no one underrates Allen anymore. If anything, I think he and Mahomes are the two qbs who are the most universally respected right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 7 hours ago, Scott7975 said: In Short? Josh said to his coaching team "i am not a dink and donk QB you know" all is well after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 Maybe the Mods should just close this thread down. Anyone trying to make a case for anyone else is a fool. I'm a huge Mahomes fan, but if Allen throws those two picks on Sunday can you imagine the comments? Not even close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Airseven Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 On 10/19/2022 at 7:03 AM, C.Biscuit97 said: Do we really want Allen to win the MVP? Yes, no, maybe. Who cares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 On 10/19/2022 at 10:03 AM, C.Biscuit97 said: Do we really want Allen to win the MVP? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Associated_Press_NFL_Most_Valuable_Player_Award#MVP_Super_bowl_curse To be fair, Goff is actually having a pretty good season and besides Henry, the titans don’t have many weapons. I think Davis is a stud and Onox has flashes, but you are right that the offense isn’t Insanely talented. But no one underrates Allen anymore. If anything, I think he and Mahomes are the two qbs who are the most universally respected right now. Lions are the 2nd best offense in the NFL averaging 411 yards a game. Had a tough one against NE but other than that they have put up lost of points and yards. Much of it has been in garbage time while being down huge, but still. On 10/19/2022 at 2:28 PM, Billsfan1972 said: Maybe the Mods should just close this thread down. Anyone trying to make a case for anyone else is a fool. I'm a huge Mahomes fan, but if Allen throws those two picks on Sunday can you imagine the comments? Not even close. This is as much of a race as an 1600m event where the person in the lead has lapped the field and everyone else is competing for 2nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 On 10/19/2022 at 2:36 AM, Scott7975 said: This is right before the Steelers game. There's a reason Josh was 15th in ypa, through the first 4 games and now is 2nd after 6 weeks, he's only had a healthy Gabe Davis for games 1, 5 & 6. Missed game 2 with an ankle injury and played games 3 & 4 when he clearly shouldn't have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 On 10/19/2022 at 3:15 AM, Big Turk said: A difference of opinion is no reason not to...everyone sees different sides of things. I don't. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 We can reconvene (though don't expect to) only if something unexpected happens. Right now it is not close. Especially love replaying the Lamar comments prior to them playing each other and others still trying to make a case after week 5 too (remember one still shilling Lamar). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DapperCam Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 Mahomes had a pretty good game. Gotta think it will be between them at the end of the season. Hurts will fall back imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhode Island Red Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 6 hours ago, Warcodered said: “Getting you a beer” is not enough thanks… that was a really cool performance, loved it, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 43 minutes ago, DapperCam said: Mahomes had a pretty good game. Gotta think it will be between them at the end of the season. Hurts will fall back imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 27 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Is that definitely right? Mahomes sat the 4th quarter of the Cardinals game and part of the 49ers game as well. Allen sat the 4th of the Titans and Steelers game. So only 4 less quarters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, DapperCam said: Is that definitely right? Mahomes sat the 4th quarter of the Cardinals game and part of the 49ers game as well. Allen sat the 4th of the Titans and Steelers game. So only 4 less quarters Josh came out in the 3rd quarter of the Titans game. Edited October 26, 2022 by Warcodered 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 6 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Josh came out in the 3rd quarter of the Titans game. Correct. Josh's last play was a 14 yard TD pass to Diggs with 5:34 remaining in the 3rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 I just read the Athletics MVP Race article through week 7 & was bored to tears as there is nothing really to say. The fact they still had Lamar in the conversation said it all. The Bills are 6 weeks in and weather actually played a significant roll in the Baltimore game, the offense was shut down vs. LA, Tenn & Pitt come midway through the third & fourth quarters and the one blot on the year vs. Miami players were suffering heat stroke says an awful lot. The Bills beat KC, who lost to Indy and while Mahomes played well, Allen played better on the road vs. them. A lot can happen, but right now it isn't really close and the goal is the SB, not MVP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 This is crazy: And yes that is a negative sign next to the first 4 teams. Josh Allen is the only QB with a positive EPA when pressured. Unicorn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 13 hours ago, Warcodered said: Allen's team is also in a better position. I think that counts for something in the selection process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakAttack Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 (edited) On 10/20/2022 at 1:34 PM, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: This is right before the Steelers game. There's a reason Josh was 15th in ypa, through the first 4 games and now is 2nd after 6 weeks, he's only had a healthy Gabe Davis for games 1, 5 & 6. Missed game 2 with an ankle injury and played games 3 & 4 when he clearly shouldn't have. It's interesting to me how Davis is the best deep threat on the Bills, and one of the best in the NFL, despite not having the electrifying speed associated with some of the other deep threats. In fact, he is the second slowest receiver on the Bills roster alone! Only the 6'3" Isaiah Hodgins - who is rarely active on game day - is slower. Kumerow and Davis actually have the same 40-yard dash time. Diggs, McKenzie, Shakir, Jamison Crowder are all faster (granted, they are smaller too). I realize "game speed" is different, but in many cases it seems to be Davis' strength that has made him such a dangerous deep threat, in contrast with what we usually see in the NFL. Either way, it has become a real pleasure to watch. Edited October 26, 2022 by BobBelcher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 4 hours ago, BobBelcher said: It's interesting to me how Davis is the best deep threat on the Bills, and one of the best in the NFL, despite not having the electrifying speed associated with some of the other deep threats. In fact, he is the second slowest receiver on the Bills roster alone! Only the 6'3" Isaiah Hodgins - who is rarely active on game day - is slower. Kumerow and Davis actually have the same 40-yard dash time. Diggs, McKenzie, Shakir, Jamison Crowder are all faster (granted, they are smaller too). I realize "game speed" is different, but in many cases it seems to be Davis' strength that has made him such a dangerous deep threat, in contrast with what we usually see in the NFL. Either way, it has become a real pleasure to watch. Yeah, he's definitely becoming one of the best deep threats in the NFL. I also have been wondering how a guy with average speed gets open deep so often. I remember first thinking about it in the season finale of the 2020 season against Miami. Caught a couple deep balls from Barkley that day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 (14) Jay Skurski on Twitter: "Josh Allen’s got jokes. Asked about next week’s trade deadline, and how the #Bills may approach it, he says “I went up to (Brandon) Beane today and asked, ‘am I safe?’”" / Twitter 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 18 hours ago, DapperCam said: Is that definitely right? Mahomes sat the 4th quarter of the Cardinals game and part of the 49ers game as well. Allen sat the 4th of the Titans and Steelers game. So only 4 less quarters KC, LA and Cincy haven't had a bye week yet either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, BobBelcher said: It's interesting to me how Davis is the best deep threat on the Bills, and one of the best in the NFL, despite not having the electrifying speed associated with some of the other deep threats. In fact, he is the second slowest receiver on the Bills roster alone! Only the 6'3" Isaiah Hodgins - who is rarely active on game day - is slower. Kumerow and Davis actually have the same 40-yard dash time. Diggs, McKenzie, Shakir, Jamison Crowder are all faster (granted, they are smaller too). I realize "game speed" is different, but in many cases it seems to be Davis' strength that has made him such a dangerous deep threat, in contrast with what we usually see in the NFL. Either way, it has become a real pleasure to watch. Gabe does an amazing job of creating separation using his size. The TD against KC showed him making a move at the line and then knocking the defenders hands away from him. Then while running full speed, he adjusts his speed (slows down just a bit) to make sure he catches the ball right as he is about to hit his stride again. this did allow the DB to catch up to him but he used his reach to keep the defender away as he started to top out. I don't know if they could/would throw a flag for OPI on that but the nice part is, if the DB even thinks about grabbing that arm, the flag is coming out for sure. Edited October 26, 2022 by The Wiz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 21 hours ago, Warcodered said: which is irrelevant / useless because Josh has — played only 3 QTRs in two of 6 games currently has played 1 less game than the others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: which is irrelevant / useless because Josh has — played only 3 QTRs in two of 6 games currently has played 1 less game than the others. I think that's the point that the tweet was making. He's 180 yards out of 1st and has played 6 less qtrs. Hit that 5th of vodka early slim? 😆 Edited October 26, 2022 by The Wiz 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: which is irrelevant / useless because Josh has — played only 3 QTRs in two of 6 games currently has played 1 less game than the others. You might need to reread what the tweet said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, Warcodered said: You might need to reread what the tweet said. Slim might be visual type of person and not necessarily a reader. 🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Wiz Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 56 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Listening to Russo is like nails to a chalkboard to me. Doesn't matter what he says. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 Wow, just when you think Stephen A. Smith can't be any dumber. Trying to make it like Mahomes' game against the Bills was qualified MVP material. Those two picks were bruuuutal! Until last week, any reasonable person could have given Mahomes the edge, based on his career, 13 seconds, and continued stellar play. He was the reigning MVP candidate until proven otherwise, and that proof was delivered last Sunday. How much evidence do you need? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, skibum said: Wow, just when you think Stephen A. Smith can't be any dumber. Trying to make it like Mahomes' game against the Bills was qualified MVP material. Those two picks were bruuuutal! Until last week, any reasonable person could have given Mahomes the edge, based on his career, 13 seconds, and continued stellar play. He was the reigning MVP candidate until proven otherwise, and that proof was delivered last Sunday. How much evidence do you need? It's a debate show designed to get people to tune in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Scott7975 said: Ohh man flashbacks of my wife here stop all the yelling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 Why was Molly giggling like as schoolgirl when "Swagu" said Josh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 It occurred to me this week that the KC game might be the difference in MVP voting. If both guys are pretty even the rest of the way that game will most likely be the deciding factor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demongyz Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 35 minutes ago, Doc said: Why was Molly giggling like as schoolgirl when "Swagu" said Josh? Josh tickles her fancy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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