Rc2catch Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Just now, Ross Murdock said: He's done, finished, caput. Nice knowing you. Bills can't afford to let this disrupt this critical season for a stinking punter. Anyone see McDermott letting this fester for a nano-second? NO-WAY!! The media will go crazy. All future questions will be about the PUNTER!! Cut their loses ASAP. Bring back Haack. He was good enough. The debate is over now. Let's get the Super Bowl. Haack plays for the Indianapolis Colts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkirchofer Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 If the Bills want to keep preaching about culture, they need to move on from Araiza. At the very minimum he has admitted to having sex with her and he took advantage of someone under the influence. That sure as hell doesn't seem like someone who fits their culture. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Just now, Ross Murdock said: He's done, finished, caput. Nice knowing you. Bills can't afford to let this disrupt this critical season for a stinking punter. Anyone see McDermott letting this fester for a nano-second? NO-WAY!! The media will go crazy. All future questions will be about the PUNTER!! Cut their loses ASAP. Bring back Haack. He was good enough. The debate is over now. Let's get the Super Bowl. Haack is with Indy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigpen65 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Where does he say he had sex with her? In a recorded call with the victim that was set up by the police. Edited August 25, 2022 by pigpen65 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 1 minute ago, pigpen65 said: Story is really ***** up. They have for sure Araiza admitting to statutory rape. My prediction is that he will be released within a couple of hours I dont think so for 3 reasons. 1. This has been investigated for a year and no criminal charges have been handed out yet. 2. Araizas Lawyer is denying that he was even in the Bedroom 3. Sounds like Bills looked into the situation previously 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 The more I read about this story the crazier it is. Unbelievable. 5 SDSU players rape an unconscious 17 year old? Unbelievable and disgusting! Throw the book at them…. It’s everywhere in the sports news and news in general. I suspect the Bills suspend him by tomorrow. Shocked they didn’t know anything about this before drafting him. Beane and Pegulas need to answer some questions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenboy81 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 This is some bad juju to start the season. Hopefully not true and over with soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 55 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: I’ll hold off on judging any of this but it’s definitely not a good look. Hope it’s not true, not cause of football but it’s just a disgusting thing to happen to anyone. It’s innocent til proven guilty, but god I hope there is nothing to this one. If so, it would be disgusting and no apologies for him. Im praying this is a shakedown, not real as it’s impossible to forgive what’s being claimed. I’ll wait and see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 1 minute ago, BillsSbSoon said: How would Beane not have known about this. If this blows up he’s going to be forced to cut him asap I think if he knew about it and did not inform the owners, he is toast. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, djp14150 said: big question I have….if they have DNA,they should have tested people accused by now. And they should have been charges by now. it’s always innocent until proven guilty. she mentioned his name because she probably already knew him at the party. That does not mean he is the one who did it. by the way, he’s now in the NFL so lawyer is willing to sue because he does have money. See if they can settle for a payday. There are some shady parts to the investigation. The school seems to have postponed the investigation and kept it quiet. Evidence was given to the DA very recently. A decision on charges is coming. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Murdock Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Just now, Albany,n.y. said: Haack is with Indy. Just now, Albany,n.y. said: Haack is with Indy. My bad. Doesn't matter. Move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, RaoulDuke79 said: So we're judge jury and executioner now based on an article everyone was just privy to two hours ago? It's enough for me. I'm not speaking for anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Beck Water said: So wait, if Matt Araiza admitted to a sexual encounter - not described as rape - with a girl at a party - you feel he should be suspended? Yes, some of the accusations are heinous, but the NFL has not suspended other players who were actually arrested and face criminal charges until AFTER the investigation plays out. Can we just wait a minute to see 1) if criminal charges are filed, against whom they are filed, and what the charges are? 2) what the civil lawsuit actually states as Araiza's role in this? If this happened as alleged, it's a horrible thing that young woman went through. On the other hand, the cynical part of my brain notes that the lawsuit was filed very shortly after Araiza is pretty much locked in to have made an NFL roster with his rival already signed by another team and says "hmmmmm" And doesn't everyone deserve some sort of due process? You realize he admitted to statutory rape right? https://www.cwsdefense.com/blog/2020/june/exceptions-to-californias-statutory-rape-laws/#:~:text=In California%2C it is illegal,informed consent to sexual activities. Matt was 22 when this incident happened. At BEST - a drunk girl started talking to him, and he didn’t bother to get her age, and decided the best course of action was to have sex with her, and that drink girl was 17. Someone who was over 20% younger than him - senior in college. He shouldn’t be on this team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 If she stumbled out of a bedroom bloodied into her friend you’d have to think there would be a whole lot of witnesses as to who came out of that bedroom after. Really surprised there has not been an arrest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, pigpen65 said: In a recorded call with the victim that was set up by the police. Oh boy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Just now, Scott7975 said: I hope the Bills are looking for a new punter. If he is part of this crap he should be in prison. If the story is true of course. To me, it sounds like it is. To be fair it sounds true to all of us. But that’s the problem with only one side of the story out there currently and possibly some details missing. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 31 minutes ago, Beck Water said: So the accusations are horrid, but it's not clear that Araiza is being accused of rape? Note that while described as "a minor", the alleged victim was then 17 years old, which is above the age of consent anywhere, and what Araiza did is not being described as "rape", but as "having sex with". I'm going to let this one play out. Edit: I opened my yap too soon. Apparently, in California, the age of consent is actually 18 https://www.newmanallen.com/blog/2021/august/what-is-the-age-of-consent-in-california-/ And there is no "Romeo and Juliet" exemption So in Cali, apparently if two high school students under 18 have sex after the prom, that's rape? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 We could probably trade him to Cleveland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 We cut Haack a couple of days ago. The story was doing the rounds in late July and the original charges brought to the police last October. What the heck are we doing as an organisation? Are the management team confident he won’t have any criminal charges bought against him and will accept any outcome in civil court and, if so, how does that make us any better than the Browns with Watson? Or did they somehow miss this when doing due diligence? Either way, it’s an awful look. Innocent until proven guilty but no victim shaming either. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Kmart128 said: I dont think so for 3 reasons. 1. This has been investigated for a year and no criminal charges have been handed out yet. 2. Araizas Lawyer is denying that he was even in the Bedroom 3. Sounds like Bills looked into the situation previously C'mon man, what's this other side of the story nonsense? Where's your pitchfork? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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