Goodell, Snyder asked to testify: Congress

[Mr. WEO]

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/01/nfl-commissioner-owner-to-testify-on-hostile-workplace-culture-00036311

 

it's gettin hot in here....

[Warcodered]

They should have bit the bullet on getting rid of Snyder a long time ago.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

Follow the Congressional trend, Danny.  Don't bother going. 😁

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Then we'll see how much drag 'Mr. Big Stuff' has.

Edited June 2, 2022 by Ridgewaycynic2013

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

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Burn 🔥 the 📱 and 

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Edited June 2, 2022 by SlimShady'sSpaceForce

[stuvian]

it's time we saw Goodell squirm 

[78thealltimegreat]

Roger under oath would be hillarious. But I fully just expect Dan to either plead the 5th or say I can’t recall to every other question.
Since in most of these congressional hearings they’re just trying to get you into a perjury trap anyway. 

[Big Turk]

Asked or being subpoenad?

[Doc Brown]

46 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

Asked or being subpoenad?

"Been invited" and they'll pry be subpoenad if they don't oblige.

[Mickey]

5 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

"Been invited" and they'll pry be subpoenad if they don't oblige.

 

They do that so the witness can say that they are "testifying voluntarily" which, back in the day, actually meant something. Now it is just another opportunity for reluctant witnesses to delay, delay, delay. Old lawyer saying: if you can't win the fight, delay the fight.  The erosion of the efficacy of the subpoena power has significantly weakened the foundations of democracy.  Public reprobation against those who would evade testifying is unfortunately no longer a thing.

[dwight in philly]

Speaking for myself, tired of the mixture of sports/politics/ govt.. we all know its about the money.. so be it.. 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

Congress???? Wasn’t the nfl the one conducting the investigation?

 

Snyder is the worst. The only benefit is living here, with the bills finally being good, my kids are slowly going bills after rebelling early on easy since the local option stinks. 

[machine gun kelly]

23 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/01/nfl-commissioner-owner-to-testify-on-hostile-workplace-culture-00036311

 

it's gettin hot in here....

Thanks Weo for sharing as always. There will be teams of lawyers and lots of covering up the microphone before even answering the first question.  
 

State you’re name for Congress,  covered Mike, psspss, ah Roger Goodell.

 

Kind of like this…

 

 

They ousted the Panthers owner for less.  Snyder’s on his way out.  It’s just a slow process.  You know Goodell’s lawyers have probably been talking to Snyder for months he has to go.

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, machine gun kelly said:

Thanks Weo for sharing as always. There will be teams of lawyers and lots of covering up the microphone before even answering the first question.  
 

State you’re name for Congress,  covered Mike, psspss, ah Roger Goodell.

 

Kind of like this…

 

 

They ousted the Panthers owner for less.  Snyder’s on his way out.  It’s just a slow process.  You know Goodell’s lawyers have probably been talking to Snyder for months he has to go.

 

This committee owes an apology!  This committee owes an apology--apology Senator!

 

Goodlell's lawyers are the NFL's lawyers.

 

I bet at least a dozen other owners are squirming in their seats over congressional inquiry into how their team management behaves...

[machine gun kelly]

7 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

This committee owes an apology!  This committee owes an apology--apology Senator!

 

Goodlell's lawyers are the NFL's lawyers.

 

I bet at least a dozen other owners are squirming in their seats over congressional inquiry into how their team management behaves...

Great Duvall line.  I thought you’d like that one Weo.  Have a good day and this is not a publication I follow so thanks bud.  As an aside, I love how different guys try an add to the board with finding these outside resources as we can’t expect the mods to find everything for the main page.

 

Goodell, IMO will simply get grilled what did he know, when did he find out, what did he do, and why want these accusations taken more seriously earlier in the process.  All of which will be a lot of grandstanding by Congressmen trying to make headlines, but if the league pays some big fine, it’s the owners getting hit, not Goodell.   
 

Goodell though has to settle up with the 31 owners.  In many ways, the kw era are like The Godfather in that the movie likes to work in the shadows and does not want these headlines.

 

This could force the hand of the 31 other owners to have Snyder sell the team.  It’s not as if there won’t be suitors.  The Walton family alone from Walmart is interested in the Broncos and I can’t remember Sam Walton’s sons name, but he’s clocked at $800 mil. In wealth. He would far super cede the wealthiest owners in the Seattle and Carolina teams.  
 

Walmart is global so if he wants a team, does he want Denver, or if an option would he want the nations capital. He’s already on record he wants to build a new stadium in Denver like Sofi. Walmart as everyone knows is global and next to Amazon is one of the largest companies globally.  Don’t you think he’s rather have the nation’s capital as his hub.  The weather could easily support a SB.  This would be a coup for the NFL.  I wouldn’t doubt there are back channel talks about this as an option.

 

Inagine what Walmart could do with a Sofi stadium in DC schmoozing with some of the most influential politicians and lobby groups in the US.  Now, this is just my wild speculation, but wouldn’t that be logical?  Walton wants in for the NFL.  Why not take over the DC market vs Denver.

 

Ok, just my ramblings on a Friday morning, but think about it.

[CSBill]

1 hour ago, machine gun kelly said:

Great Duvall line.  I thought you’d like that one Weo.  Have a good day and this is not a publication I follow so thanks bud.  As an aside, I love how different guys try an add to the board with finding these outside resources as we can’t expect the mods to find everything for the main page.

 

Goodell, IMO will simply get grilled what did he know, when did he find out, what did he do, and why want these accusations taken more seriously earlier in the process.  All of which will be a lot of grandstanding by Congressmen trying to make headlines, but if the league pays some big fine, it’s the owners getting hit, not Goodell.   
 

Goodell though has to settle up with the 31 owners.  In many ways, the kw era are like The Godfather in that the movie likes to work in the shadows and does not want these headlines.

 

This could force the hand of the 31 other owners to have Snyder sell the team.  It’s not as if there won’t be suitors.  The Walton family alone from Walmart is interested in the Broncos and I can’t remember Sam Walton’s sons name, but he’s clocked at $800 mil. In wealth. He would far super cede the wealthiest owners in the Seattle and Carolina teams.  
 

Walmart is global so if he wants a team, does he want Denver, or if an option would he want the nations capital. He’s already on record he wants to build a new stadium in Denver like Sofi. Walmart as everyone knows is global and next to Amazon is one of the largest companies globally.  Don’t you think he’s rather have the nation’s capital as his hub.  The weather could easily support a SB.  This would be a coup for the NFL.  I wouldn’t doubt there are back channel talks about this as an option.

 

Inagine what Walmart could do with a Sofi stadium in DC schmoozing with some of the most influential politicians and lobby groups in the US.  Now, this is just my wild speculation, but wouldn’t that be logical?  Walton wants in for the NFL.  Why not take over the DC market vs Denver.

 

Ok, just my ramblings on a Friday morning, but think about it.

 

The Washington Walmart's has a nice ring to it.

[Mr. WEO]

2 hours ago, machine gun kelly said:

Great Duvall line.  I thought you’d like that one Weo.  Have a good day and this is not a publication I follow so thanks bud.  As an aside, I love how different guys try an add to the board with finding these outside resources as we can’t expect the mods to find everything for the main page.

 

Goodell, IMO will simply get grilled what did he know, when did he find out, what did he do, and why want these accusations taken more seriously earlier in the process.  All of which will be a lot of grandstanding by Congressmen trying to make headlines, but if the league pays some big fine, it’s the owners getting hit, not Goodell.   
 

Goodell though has to settle up with the 31 owners.  In many ways, the kw era are like The Godfather in that the movie likes to work in the shadows and does not want these headlines.

 

This could force the hand of the 31 other owners to have Snyder sell the team.  It’s not as if there won’t be suitors.  The Walton family alone from Walmart is interested in the Broncos and I can’t remember Sam Walton’s sons name, but he’s clocked at $800 mil. In wealth. He would far super cede the wealthiest owners in the Seattle and Carolina teams.  
 

Walmart is global so if he wants a team, does he want Denver, or if an option would he want the nations capital. He’s already on record he wants to build a new stadium in Denver like Sofi. Walmart as everyone knows is global and next to Amazon is one of the largest companies globally.  Don’t you think he’s rather have the nation’s capital as his hub.  The weather could easily support a SB.  This would be a coup for the NFL.  I wouldn’t doubt there are back channel talks about this as an option.

 

Inagine what Walmart could do with a Sofi stadium in DC schmoozing with some of the most influential politicians and lobby groups in the US.  Now, this is just my wild speculation, but wouldn’t that be logical?  Walton wants in for the NFL.  Why not take over the DC market vs Denver.

 

Ok, just my ramblings on a Friday morning, but think about it.

 

Good stuff!

 

I think the other owners are squeamish about taking another's team do to dirty laundry issues.  Every team probably has some.  All of the owners certainly were made aware by Goodell of the stuff that was going on in Washington for years, but they have kept the "omerta", because the golden goose must be protected.  

 

If Snyder hasn't been punished yet it's only because the owners didn't want him to be.  

 

As for Congress, nothing will come of this.  Remember the Congressional Hearing on MLB and steroids?  Yeah.....

 

[BarleyNY]

12 hours ago, dwight in philly said:

Speaking for myself, tired of the mixture of sports/politics/ govt.. we all know its about the money.. so be it.. 

The NFL operates as a legal monopoly so Congressional oversight is mandatory.  It is odd to think that overseeing the NFL is part of Congress’s job, but it is 

[BarleyNY]

11 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Good stuff!

 

I think the other owners are squeamish about taking another's team do to dirty laundry issues.  Every team probably has some.  All of the owners certainly were made aware by Goodell of the stuff that was going on in Washington for years, but they have kept the "omerta", because the golden goose must be protected.  

 

If Snyder hasn't been punished yet it's only because the owners didn't want him to be.  

 

As for Congress, nothing will come of this.  Remember the Congressional Hearing on MLB and steroids?  Yeah.....

 

I agree that owners don’t want to hold each other accountable because of their own skeletons, but I think Snyder crossed the one line that’ll do him in - he stole from other owners.   How stupid was that?

[SoCal Deek]

What does any of this have to do with the Bills getting Zach Ertz? 

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, BarleyNY said:

I agree that owners don’t want to hold each other accountable because of their own skeletons, but I think Snyder crossed the one line that’ll do him in - he stole from other owners.   How stupid was that?

True, it might be only the money that forces their hand.  All this other stuff didn’t seem to bother them enough to act.

1 hour ago, BarleyNY said:

The NFL operates as a legal monopoly so Congressional oversight is mandatory.  It is odd to think that overseeing the NFL is part of Congress’s job, but it is 

No it’s not

[BarleyNY]

 

1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

No it’s not

https://www.washingtonian.com/2021/12/03/congress-could-really-hurt-the-nfl-if-it-wants-to/

 

Specifically Congress has exempted the NFL from antitrust (aka anti-monopoly) laws where broadcasting revenues are concerned.  That is why the NFL can collectively bargain for those rather than each individual team having to do so independently.  The NFLPA and CBA also enable otherwise illegally monopolistic practices such as the draft, free agency restrictions, roster limits, salary cap, revenue sharing, minimum player age, schedule coordination, etc.  This all allows the NFL to act as one organization rather than 32 separate ones.  In fact, it even allows the NFL to determine the number of teams.  In a free market system new ones could be formed by anyone just like in any other industry. 

Edited June 3, 2022 by BarleyNY

[Mr. WEO]

2 hours ago, BarleyNY said:

 

https://www.washingtonian.com/2021/12/03/congress-could-really-hurt-the-nfl-if-it-wants-to/

 

Specifically Congress has exempted the NFL from antitrust (aka anti-monopoly) laws where broadcasting revenues are concerned.  That is why the NFL can collectively bargain for those rather than each individual team having to do so independently.  The NFLPA and CBA also enable otherwise illegally monopolistic practices such as the draft, free agency restrictions, roster limits, salary cap, revenue sharing, minimum player age, schedule coordination, etc.  This all allows the NFL to act as one organization rather than 32 separate ones.  In fact, it even allows the NFL to determine the number of teams.  In a free market system new ones could be formed by anyone just like in any other industry. 

 

I'm familiar with the antitrust exemption.  You said the NFL is under "mandatory Congressional oversight".. That's not true.  Congress doesn't "oversee" the NFL in any way.

 

Also, the MLB is the only league with true "antitrust exemption" from the Sherman Act.  The Supreme Court denied the NFL the same, deciding that then NFL, unlike the MLB, was subject to the restrictions of the Sherman Act.

 

Instead, Rozelle pushed for some relief and ultimately Congress passed the Sports Broadcasting Act in '61.  It allowed for pooling of TV contracts by the whole league, instead of by team. 

 

So the "antitrust exemption" for the NFL is a matter of law for 60 years---not a function of "Congressional oversight"

 

And which members of Congress would form a majority to pass a bill that would change and ruin the NFL as we know it?  There is no such majority.  

 

This, like the Congressional MLB/steroid inquiry is  just for show.  

[BarleyNY]

2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

I'm familiar with the antitrust exemption.  You said the NFL is under "mandatory Congressional oversight".. That's not true.  Congress doesn't "oversee" the NFL in any way.

 

Also, the MLB is the only league with true "antitrust exemption" from the Sherman Act.  The Supreme Court denied the NFL the same, deciding that then NFL, unlike the MLB, was subject to the restrictions of the Sherman Act.

 

Instead, Rozelle pushed for some relief and ultimately Congress passed the Sports Broadcasting Act in '61.  It allowed for pooling of TV contracts by the whole league, instead of by team. 

 

So the "antitrust exemption" for the NFL is a matter of law for 60 years---not a function of "Congressional oversight"

 

And which members of Congress would form a majority to pass a bill that would change and ruin the NFL as we know it?  There is no such majority.  

 

This, like the Congressional MLB/steroid inquiry is  just for show.  

The simple answer to your question about how this would work is to watch the current Congressional Oversight Committee proceedings.  That’s how this is supposed to work.  Whether or not the US Congress chooses to - or is capable of - doing its job is another matter.  This is still their job, whether or not they chose to do it. 

Edited June 3, 2022 by BarleyNY

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, BarleyNY said:

The simple answer to your question about how this would work is to watch the current Congressional Oversight Committee proceedings.  That’s how this is supposed to work.  Whether or not the US Congress chooses to - or is capable of - doing its job is another matter.  This is still their job, whether or not they chose to do it. 

its a law.   They can’t change it without a new act signed into law.

 

Barring that, they have absolutely no oversight of this private corporation—you seem to be confused by the name of the committee. 

[BarleyNY]

1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

its a law.   They can’t change it without a new act signed into law.

 

Barring that, they have absolutely no oversight of this private corporation—you seem to be confused by the name of the committee. 

I think you’re confused about what’s actually happening.  Rescinding the antitrust exemption is definitely something congress can chose to do.

Edited June 3, 2022 by BarleyNY

[Nextmanup]

On 6/1/2022 at 11:38 PM, 78thealltimegreat said:

Roger under oath would be hillarious. But I fully just expect Dan to either plead the 5th or say I can’t recall to every other question.
Since in most of these congressional hearings they’re just trying to get you into a perjury trap anyway. 

I'm thinking of Ollie North during the Iran/Contra hearings.

 

North would be asked a question; he would be interrupted by his attorney Brendan Sullivan before he said a word.  Sullivan would whisper in North's ear for a good 15 to 20 seconds.

 

North would then say to the panel "I don't recall."

 

LMFAO

 

 

[nedboy7]

So now we are gonna pretend subpoenas actually matter.  Remember you don’t need laws cause bad guys won’t follow them. 

[Mr. WEO]

15 hours ago, BarleyNY said:

I think you’re confused about what’s actually happening.  Rescinding the antitrust exemption is definitely something congress can chose to do.

 

You say this with no apparent irony...

 

Congress can't "rescind" an Act they approved by vote and was signed by a president into a law.

 

 

The would have to propose a new bill eliminating the antitrust exemption for the NFL, vote on it, approve it in both houses and have the president would have to sign it.

 

What are you talking about?

 

 

[Mr. WEO]

For anyone still clinging to the bizarre belief that Congress would ever mess with the antitrust exemption, here is a good review of why it won't.  It's about a recent bill to eliminate MLB's exemption (which is far more broad than the one the NFL has, by the way).

 

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/06/12/bernie-sanders-baseball-antitrust-exemption-00038630

 

 "Since 1922, when the Supreme Court ruled unanimously that baseball was not subject to antitrust laws, the league’s exemption has been a whipping boy for politicians. But they’ve never been able to generate enough political support to get Congress to revoke its special status."

 

"Four years later, in ruling that the NFL was not exempt from antitrust laws, Justice Tom Clark elaborated on the rationale for the ’53 opinion: “The court did this because it was concluded that more harm would be done in overruling Federal Baseball than in upholding a ruling which, at best, was of dubious validity,” and noted that Congress hadn’t made any change to baseball’s exemption."

 

Congress and the SC have no interest changing this.

 

 

[YoloinOhio]

 

 

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Warcodered]

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/22/sports/football/dan-snyder-harassment-news-congress.html

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/panel-finds-daniel-snyder-interfered-with-sexual-harassment-investigation/ar-AAYJNXE?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=a36a1d7a54a049fc8c34e7da109852bc

 

Quote

As the N.F.L. was investigating his team for widespread workplace misconduct, the Washington Commanders owner Daniel Snyder directed a “shadow investigation” to interfere with and undermine its findings, a Congressional committee found.

 

Can they bounce this guy out of the league already?

[JoPoy88]

2 hours ago, Warcodered said:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/22/sports/football/dan-snyder-harassment-news-congress.html

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/panel-finds-daniel-snyder-interfered-with-sexual-harassment-investigation/ar-AAYJNXE?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=a36a1d7a54a049fc8c34e7da109852bc

 

 

Can they bounce this guy out of the league already?

only reason I can think of for that process not having begun already is other owners are scared of Snyder going nuclear and airing out league secrets that he’s privy to. He is a vindictive little worm after all.

[Doc Brown]

 

[US Egg]

Goodell tells Congressional comm. removing Snyder is beyond his pay grade.

 

Says Snyder goes only if owners vote him out if Goodell calls for such a vote.

 

This committees NFL ire surely kicked up a bit, after Goodell rebuffing them.

[Mr. WEO]

bread and circus

[BillsShredder83]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34131214/roger-goodell-says-no-authority-remove-daniel-snyder-owner-washington-commanders%3fplatform=amp

 

"The NFL is unwilling or unable to hold Mr. Snyder accountable," Maloney said. "That is why I am announcing now my intent to issue a subpoena for Mr. Snyder for a deposition next week. The committee will not be deterred in its investigation into the Washington Commanders."

 

Some interesting stuff going on here

[DrDawkinstein]

ALL NEW LEVELS OF PETTINESS

 

Page 177 of David Pauke’s deposition… related to pouring milk on the carpet under the seating in Mark Lerner’s suite so the suite would smell like sour milk on game day. “I did it because Dan [Snyder] told me to do it.”

 

 

[Jukester]

4 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

ALL NEW LEVELS OF PETTINESS

 

Page 177 of David Pauke’s deposition… related to pouring milk on the carpet under the seating in Mark Lerner’s suite so the suite would smell like sour milk on game day. “I did it because Dan [Snyder] told me to do it.”

 

 

Wow, this guy is like a child….except when he’s sexually on the prowl

[Mr. WEO]

9 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34131214/roger-goodell-says-no-authority-remove-daniel-snyder-owner-washington-commanders%3fplatform=amp

 

"The NFL is unwilling or unable to hold Mr. Snyder accountable," Maloney said. "That is why I am announcing now my intent to issue a subpoena for Mr. Snyder for a deposition next week. The committee will not be deterred in its investigation into the Washington Commanders."

 

Some interesting stuff going on here

 

Not really.  Even if he shows up, he'll answer what he wants and then at some point this is all over and nothing is done (by Congress anyway--because they can't do anything).  

 

The only point of this hearing is to make public all of this stuff in the hopes that it will shame 24 of the other 31 of a fairy shameless group of men (and a handful of women) into telling Snyder he has to go.

 

9 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

ALL NEW LEVELS OF PETTINESS

 

Page 177 of David Pauke’s deposition… related to pouring milk on the carpet under the seating in Mark Lerner’s suite so the suite would smell like sour milk on game day. “I did it because Dan [Snyder] told me to do it.”

 

 

 

This is convincing evidence of crying over spilled milk....