The 2nd Wave of Free Agency Starts Today at 4PM

[Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD]

After 4PM today May 2nd, signing free agents will no longer count against the compensatory draft pick formula. This date used to be June 2nd, but it's been moved up this year.

 

While the Bills have very little cap space (we still don't know exactly how much cap our rookies will take up), Beane always knows how to make room using extensions (Poyer?) and restructures (maybe Dawkins)

 

Who do you think the Bills might add post-draft?

 

 

 

 

[Brand J]

Seems like they moved on from the Williams idea with the signing of Quessenberry (sp?) but I’d like to see him brought back. Same with Jerry Hughes, but I’m sure neither would take a vet minimum deal.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

3 minutes ago, Allen2Diggs said:

After 4PM today May 2nd, signing free agents will no longer count against the compensatory draft pick formula. This date used to be June 2nd, but it's been moved up this year.

 

While the Bills have very little cap space (we still don't know exactly how much cap our rookies will take up), Beane always knows how to make room using extensions (Poyer?) and restructures (maybe Dawkins)

 

Who do you think the Bills might add post-draft?

 

 

 

 

Nobody. I think we are all set at this point. 

[GolfandBills]

3 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Nobody. I think we are all set at this point. 

They still have 5 or 6 spots open on the roster so yes they will add more players 

[H2o]

New England will get a Comp Pick just for not being able receive any more Comp Picks after 4:00pm. 

[wppete]

Who is out there we would be interested in?

 

any decent CBs or OL?

Bring back Klein and Daryl Williams on the cheap if possible. 

[Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD]

3 minutes ago, wppete said:

Who is out there we would be interested in?

 

any decent CBs or OL?

Bring back Klein and Daryl Williams on the cheap if possible. 

Joe Haden is still out there and apparently Von has been recruiting him. He's 33 so it would have to be a one-year deal. Elam needs competition and shouldn't just be handed the #2 cb job.

Edited May 2, 2022 by Allen2Diggs

[BuffaloRebound]

Could see a Joe Haden type to help at CB until Tre is 100% and/or Elam is ready to be full time starter.  

[GolfandBills]

2 minutes ago, Allen2Diggs said:

Joe Haden is still out there and apparently Von has been recruiting him. He's 33 so it would have to be a one-year deal. Elam needs competition and shouldn't just be handed the #2 cb job.

He’ll compete with Dane Jackson 

[SoMAn]

11 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said:

Seems like they moved on from the Williams idea with the signing of Quessenberry (sp?) but I’d like to see him brought back. Same with Jerry Hughes, but I’m sure neither would take a vet minimum deal.

Can't figure out why anyone thinks Quessenberry is an upgrade from the guards we've had the past couple of years. Looking at his history, looks like a journeyman who was average at best.  I'm going to guess Beane finds some better IOL after 4pm.

[julian]

Elam is a much more athletic prospect with a higher upside than rookie Tre White when we drafted him at 27

 

i full anticipate Elam starting week one and being excellent by mid season

 

[wppete]

1 minute ago, GolfandBills said:

He’ll compete with Dane Jackson 

Would be pretty exciting if we can secure Haden. Take pressure of Tredavious, let him come back fully healthy and not rushed. 
would be an impressive 4 CBs.

 

Elam - Haden

Tre White - Dane Jackson

[SCBills]

16 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Nobody. I think we are all set at this point. 

 

Beane was on WGR this morning and it certainly didn't sound like we're all set.  

[Hapless Bills Fan]

17 minutes ago, Allen2Diggs said:

After 4PM today May 2nd, signing free agents will no longer count against the compensatory draft pick formula. This date used to be June 2nd, but it's been moved up this year.

 

While the Bills have very little cap space (we still don't know exactly how much cap our rookies will take up), Beane always knows how to make room using extensions (Poyer?) and restructures (maybe Dawkins)

 

Who do you think the Bills might add post-draft?

 

So I don't think it's correct we don't know how much cap space our rookies will take up.

Spotrac has it listed on https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/cap/

 

Scroll down to 2022 Projected Draft Pool Cap and look at the "top 51" for now: $4.7M

Then scroll up and observe that the top 3 picks will displace 3 players from the top 51.  Subtract their cap hit and add back their signing bonuses, giving $2.6M

Therefore the cap space our rookies will take up is $4.7M - $2.6M = $2.1M

 

According to Spotrac then, we have about $5.2M of top-51 cap space after the $2.1M top-51 impact to sign rookies is subtracted.

 

It should be noted that right now, Poyer is taking up the Bills 6th highest cap hit at $10.8M, and that any extension worked out with him could potentially lower this.

 

 

[Monty98]

I'd still be open to a flyer on Jarvis Landry or Julio Jones. I know Jones' health is questionable, but if you can get close to Atlanta Julio that's a scary thought, Landry would be a safety blanket as he makes his living underneath and gives us a good YAC guy

[MAJBobby]

55 minutes ago, Allen2Diggs said:

After 4PM today May 2nd, signing free agents will no longer count against the compensatory draft pick formula. This date used to be June 2nd, but it's been moved up this year.

 

While the Bills have very little cap space (we still don't know exactly how much cap our rookies will take up), Beane always knows how to make room using extensions (Poyer?) and restructures (maybe Dawkins)

 

Who do you think the Bills might add post-draft?

 

 

 

 

The Rookies will take a Max of 2M with the top 51 rules.

 

Elam Cap Hit 2.48M (Gilliam Falls off 901K) Total Cap hit for Elam - 1.579

Cook Cap hit 1.060M (Doyle falls off 903K) Total cap hit for Cook - 157K

Bernard Cap hit 932K (Barkely Falls off 920K) Total cap hit for Bernard 12K

 

All the Rest will not be counted in the top 51 rules as their cap hits are all under the next drop off of Cam Lewis at 925K

 

So Based on SPOTRAC The Rookies will be around 1.748

 

Space right now by SPOTRAC is 7.327 (Top 51) Negative 5.502 (Normal rules)

 

So about 5.579M in space right now based on top 51 rules.

 

Based on the UDFA reported Signings of 10 (and then 3 camp invites) the Bills are sitting with 5 open roster spots to get to 90

Edited May 2, 2022 by MAJBobby

[nucci]

33 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

Beane was on WGR this morning and it certainly didn't sound like we're all set.  

It's May 2nd. I agree, nothing is set

[Aussie Joe]

Beane is never satisfied..always looking ..

 

Turns over every rock 

 

If he can improve the depth/ back end of the roster he will..

 

Etc..etc..

[Patrick Duffy]

1 hour ago, JayBaller10 said:

Seems like they moved on from the Williams idea with the signing of Quessenberry (sp?) but I’d like to see him brought back. Same with Jerry Hughes, but I’m sure neither would take a vet minimum deal.

 

Yeah, not sure what happens with Jerry, but my heart wants him to possibly win a SB here. However, they might be ready to let the younger guys take over. 

[MrEpsYtown]

Some ideas: 

 

Riley Reiff T - Perfect swing tackle who has a lot of experience and could start for you if need be. 

Billy Price C/G - Interior O linemen who has had a very disappointing career so far. Can play guard or center and played much better with the Giants. 

Trey Hopkins also makes sense as a backup IOL. 

Kyle Long is probably done, but is a Kromer guy from his time with the Bears. 

 

Jesse James TE - Is it finally time for this to happen? 

Stephen Carlson - H back type tight end 

 

Dante Pettis WR - I think there is something there. Always liked him and can compete as a return guy

Will Fuller WR - He hasn't't played in a while, but he is the guy who can stretch the field, which we don't quite have in our corps right now. I know a lot of people don't like him, but I think he is a fit. 

 

Landon Collins - DB - A chance to revive his career and he could serve as a top flight #3 safety, play a ton of specials and play some heavy nickel. Collins is coming out of Ron rivera's system, so should have some knowledge about the scheme. 

 

That's all I got. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Rc2catch]

I could see bottom of the roster and possible depth guys. I wouldn’t expect anything that moves the needle with fans though. We’re pretty loaded 

[Einstein's Dog]

Pounding the table for Will Fuller!

 

The FO intentionally went into the draft with two holes - CB (Wallace) + WR (Sanders).  They did not fill the Sanders spot (and no, a 5th round pick that went after the run on kickers does not count).  The FA money goes to the WR.

 

Of the WRs - W Fuller is the man.  He is the speed man that would fit like a glove in this offense.  His injury history is what is holding him back from big money, and on a prove it deal I think Beane could get him for Sanders money.

[Bills92]

Not directly related but I am still thinking there is a good chance we acquire James Bradberry.  

 

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/05/02/giants-working-through-some-things-on-james-bradberry/

 

I can see us being part of Schoen's 'contingency plans'.

 

 

[Floydboy12]

I think offensive line help is always needed but don’t know if anybody worthwhile will be available. Also wouldn’t mind adding a blocking tight end but have no idea if that is a possibility. 

[BADOLBILZ]

3 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Nobody. I think we are all set at this point. 

 

 

[BADOLBILZ]

3 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said:

Some ideas: 

 

Riley Reiff T - Perfect swing tackle who has a lot of experience and could start for you if need be. 

Billy Price C/G - Interior O linemen who has had a very disappointing career so far. Can play guard or center and played much better with the Giants. 

Trey Hopkins also makes sense as a backup IOL. 

Kyle Long is probably done, but is a Kromer guy from his time with the Bears. 

 

Jesse James TE - Is it finally time for this to happen? 

Stephen Carlson - H back type tight end 

 

Dante Pettis WR - I think there is something there. Always liked him and can compete as a return guy

Will Fuller WR - He hasn't't played in a while, but he is the guy who can stretch the field, which we don't quite have in our corps right now. I know a lot of people don't like him, but I think he is a fit. 

 

Landon Collins - DB - A chance to revive his career and he could serve as a top flight #3 safety, play a ton of specials and play some heavy nickel. Collins is coming out of Ron rivera's system, so should have some knowledge about the scheme. 

 

That's all I got. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jason Peters........played well for near veteran minimum as a starting LT last year.........best reserve swing T on the market even at his age.

 

AJ Green....(EDIT: GREEN SIGNED BACK WITH AZ FOR CHEAP).....people may assume he is washed but he put up 848 yards at 15.7 yards per reception last season playing with a QB who is usually shot and stuffed by Thanksgiving.

Edited May 2, 2022 by BADOLBILZ

[Billl]

3 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

It should be noted that right now, Poyer is taking up the Bills 6th highest cap hit at $10.8M, and that any extension worked out with him could potentially lower this.

What kind of extension would you be willing to offer Poyer?  He’ll be 32 when his current contract is up so that’s likely a limiting factor.  I think Beane is going to be looking to push for a serious youth movement after this season, particularly on defense.  Between Poyer, Hyde, Lawson, Miller, and Phillips, they’ve got a lot of older players playing a ton of snaps.

3 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

It should be noted that right now, Poyer is taking up the Bills 6th highest cap hit at $10.8M, and that any extension worked out with him could potentially lower this.

What kind of extension would you be willing to offer Poyer?  He’ll be 32 when his current contract is up so that’s likely a limiting factor.  I think Beane is going to be looking to push for a serious youth movement after this season, particularly on defense.  Between Poyer, Hyde, Lawson, Miller, and Phillips, they’ve got a lot of older players playing a ton of snaps.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

42 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

AJ Green.........people may assume he is washed but he put up 848 yards at 15.7 yards per reception last season playing with a QB who is usually shot and stuffed by Thanksgiving.

 

I believe AJ Green re-upped with the Angry Birds (Cardinals) in mid-April

[Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD]

2 minutes ago, Billl said:

What kind of extension would you be willing to offer Poyer?  He’ll be 32 when his current contract is up so that’s likely a limiting factor.  I think Beane is going to be looking to push for a serious youth movement after this season, particularly on defense.  Between Poyer, Hyde, Lawson, Miller, and Phillips, they’ve got a lot of older players playing a ton of snaps.

Honestly, I would have tried to trade Poyer during the draft (maybe Beane did) instead of giving him a big extension. I'm just not sure whether Jaquan Johnson or Damar Hamlin are ready to fill Poyer's role. We can't extend everyone because that's how you get into cap hell in a few years.

[Einstein's Dog]

45 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Jason Peters........played well for near veteran minimum as a starting LT last year.........best reserve swing T on the market even at his age.

 

AJ Green.........people may assume he is washed but he put up 848 yards at 15.7 yards per reception last season playing with a QB who is usually shot and stuffed by Thanksgiving.

AJ signed with AZ.  I need you on the W Fuller bandwagon - 4.32 speed at Sanders prices.

[BADOLBILZ]

4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I believe AJ Green re-upped with the Angry Birds (Cardinals) in mid-April

 

 

Yep, I missed it, free agency has been slow the past few weeks.

 

 He signed for 1 year $3.5M and the actual cap hit in 2021 is just over the league minimum.   The rest is in 2 voidable years.

 

That for a guy who put up numbers that a lot of Bills fans would think would be good production from Gabriel Davis in 2022.   (I personally think Davis should put up over 1,000 without any real competition for snaps).

[BADOLBILZ]

5 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said:

AJ signed with AZ.  I need you on the W Fuller bandwagon - 4.32 speed at Sanders prices.

 

I like the idea..........but not the Sander's 2021 price.

 

It's prove-it time for Will "he play" Fuller.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

18 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said:

AJ signed with AZ.  I need you on the W Fuller bandwagon - 4.32 speed at Sanders prices.

 

He can run, but Will he? 

[Billl]

22 minutes ago, Allen2Diggs said:

Honestly, I would have tried to trade Poyer during the draft (maybe Beane did) instead of giving him a big extension. I'm just not sure whether Jaquan Johnson or Damar Hamlin are ready to fill Poyer's role. We can't extend everyone because that's how you get into cap hell in a few years.

I’m an atheist when it comes to the salary cap, but I firmly believe that age catches up with everyone but Brady, and it tends to do so suddenly.

[Einstein's Dog]

18 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

I like the idea..........but not the Sander's 2021 price.

 

It's prove-it time for Will "he play" Fuller.

A 28 yo, veteran, 4.32 speed WR coming off a thumb injury (big whoop).  Beane has to offer at least $6M.   Fuller was stuck in Miami last year, no need to come back fast from that.

 

This guy is better for '22 than J Williams would be.  And those top 10 rookies get close to $5M I think.

[Warriorspikes51]

10 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said:

A 28 yo, veteran, 4.32 speed WR coming off a thumb injury (big whoop).  Beane has to offer at least $6M.   Fuller was stuck in Miami last year, no need to come back fast from that.

 

This guy is better for '22 than J Williams would be.  And those top 10 rookies get close to $5M I think.

IF IF IF he can actually get on the field and play....which I suppose with our training staff and facilities is possible.  I've never cared for the guy but maybe he can be "his best self" here.  Offer him the same deal Crowder got. Take it or leave it. 

Edited May 2, 2022 by Warriorspikes51

[Brand J]

You guys still want WRs? We have Diggs, Davis, Crowder, McKenzie, a rookie with potential in Shakir, and two unknowns with potential in Stevenson and Hodgins. Not to mention Touchdown Jesus. There’s no all star receiver coming in now that’ll push that group even higher so why the desire to add names like Fuller? You’ve gotta let your own play at some point. 

[BuffaloBills1998]

5 hours ago, Einstein's Dog said:

Pounding the table for Will Fuller!

 

The FO intentionally went into the draft with two holes - CB (Wallace) + WR (Sanders).  They did not fill the Sanders spot (and no, a 5th round pick that went after the run on kickers does not count).  The FA money goes to the WR.

 

Of the WRs - W Fuller is the man.  He is the speed man that would fit like a glove in this offense.  His injury history is what is holding him back from big money, and on a prove it deal I think Beane could get him for Sanders money.

Will fuller??? Lol that guy is now garbage. Couldn’t stay on the field last season when he played in Miami. And he wasn’t even productive when he did play. Hard pass, I’d rather re sign sanders 

Edited May 2, 2022 by BuffaloBills1998

[patzen]

I'm definitely interested in bringing Daryl Williams back. He would really add to our interior depth on the line. We could also potentially add depth at corner or defensive end. The rest of the roster is set imo.

[947]

2 hours ago, Einstein's Dog said:

A 28 yo, veteran, 4.32 speed WR coming off a thumb injury (big whoop).  Beane has to offer at least $6M.   Fuller was stuck in Miami last year, no need to come back fast from that.

 

This guy is better for '22 than J Williams would be.  And those top 10 rookies get close to $5M I think.

Fuller ran a 4.32 about 20 injuries ago, there's no way he still has that same speed. Now I do agree he's an intriguing low-cost option for a 1yr deal, but in a lottery ticket sense.