Putin Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Just now, Doc said: Not nearly enough draft capital to get there. Using all their picks gets them to 11th. This year 1st and next years 1st and 3rd probably does it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Feels important to remember this with how well he's played for the Jets. 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Mat68 said: Solid slot guy. Good pick up. Fill them holes one by one. Come draft only get better. I expect cb at a modest deal and thats a wrap. I’d be really happy with that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Just now, Putin said: This year 1st and next years 1st and 3rd probably does it Even that wouldn't get it done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babulator Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 This is a nice signing and a definite upgrade. He's gonna have a nice season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 22 minutes ago, Steptide said: Who was he with last? Jets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnum Force Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, stosh64 said: 4.56 at the combine. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CrowJa00.htm https://amp.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/article16315961.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Just now, Doc said: Even that wouldn't get it done. We traded with the Chiefs our 10 pick for their 27th next years 1st and 4th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Diggs, Davis, McKenzie, Crowder, Kumarov…seems to be the order to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 7 minutes ago, Putin said: I was just talking about this with my wife , told her that it wouldn’t surprise me if Bean trades up to 7 ( Giants) and goes after Sauce Gardner Giving up next years 1st round for a CB doesn't sound like a good plan to me, and I doubt Beane sees it differently. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Putin said: We traded with the Chiefs our 10 pick for their 27th next years 1st and 4th Yeah, and it was a horrible trade. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: I would have preferred someone that could play both inside and outside. Jets used crowder a lot on the outside, but he really struggled there. I think he is being brought in to play exclusively out of the slot. We still need someone who can back up Diggs and Gabe on the outside. We cant fill every hole buying guys in free agency... Im assuming they will take a WR Day 2 to help Diggs and GD outside 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Feels important to remember this with how well he's played for the Jets. I always liked Crowder. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Just now, billsfan_34 said: Diggs, Davis, McKenzie, Crowder, Kumarov…seems to be the order to me. Diggs , Davis , Crowder , McKenzie and a 1st round pick WR 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, gobills404 said: And RG if we lose bates I don’t think we lose Bates so not worried about it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsMailman Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Very good underrated signing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Just now, Putin said: Diggs , Davis , Crowder , McKenzie and a 1st round pick WR Or maybe 2nd round 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Doc said: Yeah, and it was a horrible trade. 3 years ago NOT TODAY Just now, Aussie Joe said: Or maybe 2nd round If the first pick is CB then 👍🏻 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stosh64 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Magnum Force said: https://amp.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/article16315961.html Quote clocked unofficially by Duke as running the 40 in 4.39 The former Duke receiver from Monroe turned in a disappointing 4.56-second 40-yard dash at last month’s NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis and vowed to do better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: 25, and next year's 2nd to move to the 10 - 15 draft spot. I'm doing that all day IF my CB/WR is there and the drop off to who I could take at 25 is significant. Our 3rd and 4th this year to move into the 20s. If the drop off of WR/CB is significant in RD 2/3. ONLY if the CB/WR I want is there. That's what I'd consider. That's trading 3 picks over 2 years to get a top 15 pick and another 1st (21-32 range). Maybe it's too much but it's close. It would cost far more than next year’s 2nd to move from 25 to the top 12. More like 25 and two second round picks. And it will take more than our 3rd and 4th rounders to move back into the first round…sorry to rain on your parade… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 8 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: 25, and next year's 2nd to move to the 10 - 15 draft spot. I'm doing that all day IF my CB/WR is there and the drop off to who I could take at 25 is significant. Our 3rd and 4th this year to move into the 20s. If the drop off of WR/CB is significant in RD 2/3. ONLY if the CB/WR I want is there. That's what I'd consider. That's trading 3 picks over 2 years to get a top 15 pick and another 1st (21-32 range). Maybe it's too much but it's close. I guess you've never seen any NFL draft value charts. All your trades are totally off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 22 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: Not via trade. Post-release. I get it. How much do you think Bradberry would/will command on the open market? My guess is that it will be significant $. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, Putin said: 3 years ago NOT TODAY Any year. I blame it on McD's friendship with Reid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnum Force Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 1 minute ago, stosh64 said: And your point is? Are you one of those fact checkers that just has to be right? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said: I guess you've never seen any NFL draft value charts. All your trades are totally off. Will 4 CBs get taken before 25 - and is the drop off after that significant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Congrats to us and crowder. This might be the first time he actually gets to play with a top end quarterback. I think he got cousins in Washington a year or two. Excited to see what he can do here 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 1 minute ago, OldTimer1960 said: I get it. How much do you think Bradberry would/will command on the open market? My guess is that it will be significant $. The way I read it, Bradberry wants to join the Bills and will take far less to do it. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 (edited) He’s a 70 catches for 600-700 yards and 6TDs per year kind of guy. Still just 29. As others have said, he can split time in the slot with McKenzie, although he’s a honestly a more consistent, proven option there than McKenzie. I think he can easily replace Beasley’s production, personally. Just look at his career stats combined with who’s been throwing to him! This likely means the 1st round pick is CB. It still COULD be a WR , I suppose, but as of this moment, the CB depth chart is looking pretty sad. Definitely s much bigger need than Wr. They’ll still draft a WR but it’ll more likely be somewhere in rounds 2-4. And I’ll believe Beane spends a 1st on a guard when I see it. Start heavily studying the CBs, kiddos. Anyway…Crowder isn’t flashy, but he’ll wind up being an underrated, productive piece on our offense. Edited March 21, 2022 by Logic 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Just now, Doc said: The way I read it, Bradberry wants to join the Bills and will take far less to do it. Sign me up, if that is true! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Logic said: He’s a 70 catches for 600-700 yards and 6TDs per year kind of guy. Still just 29. As others have said, he can split time in the slot with McKenzie, although he’s a honestly a more consistent, proven option there than McKenzie. I think he can easily replace Beasley’s production, personally. Just look at his career stats combined with who’s been throwing to him! This likely means the 1st round pick is CB. It still COULD be a WR , I suppose, but as of this moment, the CB depth chart is looking pretty sad. Definitely s much bigger need than Wr. They’ll still draft one, but it’ll be somewhere in rounds 2-4. Crowder isn’t flashy, but he’ll wind up being an underrated, productive piece on our offense. We're probably still bringing someone in at CB, Bean hates leaving a hole going into the draft. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 29 minutes ago, Process said: This probably stops us from taking a WR in round 1 which is disappointing. But I dig it. I think he'll be a good fit. Still hope we draft a speed guy. This pretty much guarantees we'll pick the best CB @ 25 unless Bates doesn't return. If he stays healthy this is a decent pu. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 1 minute ago, OldTimer1960 said: Sign me up, if that is true! He's got the McD connection, but $$$ talks, BS walks😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnum Force Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, Doc said: The way I read it, Bradberry wants to join the Bills and will take far less to do it. Hope you are right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Will 4 CBs get taken before 25 - and is the drop off after that significant I think the significant drop off occurs around 6-7 The 4 I think are gone before we pick.: sauce stingley booth McDuffie I’d be ok with: Elam and Gordon @ 25. Maybe mccreary. His short arms might prevent him from being our pick. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 8 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said: I guess you've never seen any NFL draft value charts. All your trades are totally off. I have no dog in this fight but FYI there are at least 3 different trade value charts. Which one are you using? 5 minutes ago, Doc said: The way I read it, Bradberry wants to join the Bills and will take far less to do it. Where'd you read that Doc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, Doc said: The way I read it, Bradberry wants to join the Bills and will take far less to do it. This currently is speculation that the Giants will release him--he is not an UFA. The Gints are currently $343,000 under the cap, and they would save $10 mil by releasing him, but would also get hit with $11 mil in dead cap. Seems to me they would try to restructure some guys instead of releasing him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Interesting. My initial thought is I would rather just have Sanders back. Board seems to think it was a good move so I will defer to those that have followed him more closely than I have. Still think they take a WR in the first two rounds 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 I like this signing. Cole Beasley-esque production for a guy who is cheaper, younger, and slightly more upside. Crowder has never had a talent like Josh Allen at QB, so it'll be interesting to see how it goes. I really still like the idea of drafting a WR at round 1 but I think this takes the wind of out the sails a bit. It could still happen but CB feels a lot more likely now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: Congrats to us and crowder. This might be the first time he actually gets to play with a top end quarterback. I think he got cousins in Washington a year or two. Excited to see what he can do here As I recall, Crowder had a big game against us in the season opener a year or two ago…he might have had a dozen catches…I remember thinking “this guy is a pain in the ass”. Edited March 21, 2022 by mannc 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 (edited) I just worry a lot more people are putting faith in Tre's recovery then I am. Not that he won't be back...he will. But I want this team to prepare like they DO NOT have a CB1 for 2022. I don't know he'll be back to full Tre. Odds are he won't. I'm going to need to see some comps of CBs tearing ACLs in late November and coming back as good the following season. Planning any other way is negligent. And that's why I'd be dam sure to get the CB I want in the draft IF he's a day 1 starter. Edited March 21, 2022 by Big Blitz 2 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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