thenorthremembers Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, All I Need is Hope said: So much for “players want to come to Buffalo and play with Josh Allen” it’s not over, but we haven’t signed a difference maker or addressed CB depth or edge Do me a favor and take a look back at the history of "difference makers" signed in free agency who signed huge deals and lived up to them. Smart teams know better than to do this. These guys, again, are available for a reason. The Bills have signed three free agents outside of their franchise, signed 4 of their own free agents and reworked multiple deals. What you, and others on this board really mean is "The Bills havent signed anyone that excites me yet so I am upset and am going to post sarcastic things about the team." 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 1 minute ago, All I Need is Hope said: So much for “players want to come to Buffalo and play with Josh Allen” it’s not over, but we haven’t signed a difference maker or addressed CB depth or edge JC Jackson is the most overrated CB in the NFL. New England who knows a thing or two about them didn't keep him. Chandler Jones and his 5 sacks in 16 games after week 1 didn't seem to impact that AZ defense The rest of the HIGH PRICED signings are stupid. There are hungrier cheaper options and more moves to come well into the summer. This Bills team did not get to this point going after high priced free agents especially ones in their 30s. It's not what we do despite for some reason being linked to a lot of them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Donuts and Doritos said: 1st our new RB left us. Now our new Edge Rushers doesn't show up. This sucks being cap poor. Can't wait till we're a 7- 10 team again. Sure do miss the good old days [/sarcasm] Edited March 16, 2022 by ddaryl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 1 minute ago, CountDorkula said: There is no such thing. The Saints were 75 million over the cap and didn't release a single body and shaved off 70 Million in cap space. They did the equivalent of paying off a credit card balance with another credit card. They are already over the cap next year with only half a roster under contract. Trust me...we don't want to be the Saints. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 1 minute ago, Big Blitz said: JC Jackson is the most overrated CB in the NFL. New England who knows a thing or two about them didn't keep him. Chandler Jones and his 5 sacks in 16 games after week 1 didn't seem to impact that AZ defense The rest of the HIGH PRICED signings are stupid. There are hungrier cheaper options and more moves to come well into the summer. This Bills team did not get to this point going after high priced free agents especially ones in their 30s. It's not what we do despite for some reason being linked to a lot of them. THANK YOU GOD!! Post of the year right here. It's good to know common sense still exists in the world! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worstcaseontario Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 Enjoy your 7-10 seasons chandler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 16, 2022 Author Share Posted March 16, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, DapperCam said: They did the equivalent of paying off a credit card balance with another credit card. They are already over the cap next year with only half a roster under contract. Trust me...we don't want to be the Saints. And no QB. Like, literally. The fact that they were that far above the cap with no QB is brutal cap management. Edited March 16, 2022 by YoloinOhio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 8 minutes ago, billybrew1 said: If the cowboys or broncos or 49ers or rams or NO or Tampa had JA they would have won a SB by now. Whoever said how can NO be in on Watson is correct. You CAN continually push monies into the future. You think NO has a stacked roster with depth at every position? Or all/any of those teams? Even Tampa and the Rams have holes on their roster. Some even at starting spots (Rams LBs). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybrew1 Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said: All those who keep referencing the 5 sacks Jones had the majority of the season, was it due to ineffectiveness? Was he getting double teamed after that 5 sack output? Was he getting close but not finishing the job? There’s always context for the 5 sacks. I think Hughes had like 2 all year despite being tabbed our best pass rushing DE. Yeah, but do you think Chandler is worth 17 mill? Me? I don’t know? I was waiting to see Chandler make some plays towards the end of the season in Az. and saw nothing… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, DapperCam said: They did the equivalent of paying off a credit card balance with another credit card. They are already over the cap next year with only half a roster under contract. Trust me...we don't want to be the Saints. Is that why the are trying to trade for an expensive QB too? You can guarnatee they will move around money next year as well. Also being over the cap for next year only indicates a 10 mil increase next year. Next years cap will be at least a 25 mil increase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybrew1 Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: Do me a favor and take a look back at the history of "difference makers" signed in free agency who signed huge deals and lived up to them. Smart teams know better than to do this. These guys, again, are available for a reason. The Bills have signed three free agents outside of their franchise, signed 4 of their own free agents and reworked multiple deals. What you, and others on this board really mean is "The Bills havent signed anyone that excites me yet so I am upset and am going to post sarcastic things about the team." Lotsa teams got their one guy and won Super Bowls. The rams did it just last year. It is very common. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 Just now, billybrew1 said: Yeah, but do you think Chandler is worth 17 mill? Me? I don’t know? I was waiting to see Chandler make some plays towards the end of the season in Az. and saw nothing… To be honest I haven’t assessed his play so I couldn’t tell you if he’s worth that much. Projections had him at about $15M/yr, but he is an older player. If he’s still a force off the edge then age doesn’t matter so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 58 minutes ago, Rigotz said: “it’s not about the money” he says… 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 It would have been a nice addition for the Bills, but I can't say I'm disappointed as I never thought it was realistic given their cap situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, billybrew1 said: Lotsa teams got their one guy and won Super Bowls. The rams did it just last year. It is very common. Who was that one guy you are referring to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 3 years, $51M...top of the market deal for DE this free agency...playing for a team that is firmly cemented in the basement of their own division currently. But yeah, tell everyone its not about the money. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sven233 Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 Much rather try and swing a trade for Hunter. Better player and a lot younger. Sure, he's going to get PAID, but if we can get him here on his current deal, we can work on an extension and fit the money in where we'll have it down the road a bit. That said, I'm not sure Beane and the rest of the front office want to have another huge contract on the books, especially when they like their rotation as much as they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Who was that one guy you are referring to? I think that one guy was already on their roster as a draft pick: Aaron Donald Edit: I'll add Cooper Kupp. Also a draft pick Edited March 16, 2022 by billsfan1959 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, billybrew1 said: Lotsa teams got their one guy and won Super Bowls. The rams did it just last year. It is very common. Who was their one guy and was he signed in free agency? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 11 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: Beyond the Regier comparison you called Beane a "very conservative GM." In my opinion he has been exactly the opposite of that. If you said he has been "very conservative this offseason" I'd agree, the Bills just dont have the money to make a big splash in free agency. But if you look at his entire history as Bills GM, to call him "very conservative" is not just unfair its blatantly wrong. A "very conservative" GM doesnt trade his way into the number 7 pick in the draft a year after making the playoffs and draft maybe the most wild card QB prospect in history. Neither does he send 1st round picks to Minnesota for Diggs. He's made big moves, he didnt get the nickname Big Baller Beane by being conservative. Building is one thing, winning a championship is another. Regier had the big trades as well early on. They both focus more on financial sustainability over championships. Most Bills fans would take a championship in 2022 over 10 years of playoffs without a championship. I'm pretty sure they'd even agree to a championship in 2022 even if it meant 10 losing seasons after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybrew1 Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 I don’t know? Maybe a great GM needs to throw costs into the wind and just get that guy that gives you a much better shot at a SB? The Broncos paid that Cowboys Pass Rusher a ton to give them two and they won a SB. We’re still looking for one…. Can we say this? A great GM finds a way to win a SB…. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 20 minutes ago, billybrew1 said: What sucks is Chandler Jones isn’t worth 17 mill So what is he worth, $15 million? Are we quibbling over $2 million to improve a major weakness on the roster? Every free agent gets overpaid when they switch teams. For impact players you do it anyways. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 Just now, billsfan1959 said: I think that one guy was already on their roster as a draft pick: Aaron Donald The Rams brought in at least 3 big contributors/difference makers, so I'm interested in who that poster thinks was "the one". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Most Bills fans would take a championship in 2022 over 10 years of playoffs without a championship. I'm pretty sure they'd even agree to a championship in 2022 even if it meant 10 losing seasons after. Nope. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Gambit said: Surprised of all teams, that's where he ended up. So much for wanting to win. That DL will be very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 Just now, DrDawkinstein said: The Rams brought in at least 3 big contributors/difference makers, so I'm interested in who that poster thinks was "the one". We forget the Bills were also in on Von Miller. Imagine Von Miller on the Bills last playoffs. Does he make at least one sack on Mahomes to kill a drive? Maybe. Would have cost the Bills a 2nd round pick+, but who knows. We had a bunch of Beane 2nd round picks sitting on the bench vs KC. 1 minute ago, billsfan1959 said: Nope. Liar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 so who is the next best FA Edge rusher??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said: Building is one thing, winning a championship is another. Regier had the big trades as well early on. They both focus more on financial sustainability over championships. Most Bills fans would take a championship in 2022 over 10 years of playoffs without a championship. I'm pretty sure they'd even agree to a championship in 2022 even if it meant 10 losing seasons after. I guess we are just going to have to agree to disagree. The Bills have spent right up to the cap almost every year he has been year. If his moves havent convinced you he is trying to win a championship, then you wont be convinced. I know a lot of fans would choose one championship over 10 years of playoffs. Personally if I am a GM of a team, I'd probably try not to think like a fan. I'd also try to run a team that was both financially sustainable and could win games at a high enough level to keep my job. Dont see how reckless spending makes the Bills a better team but thats just me I guess, 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 I mean, clearly, we couldn't have afforded him. There is still a cap in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Building is one thing, winning a championship is another. Regier had the big trades as well early on. They both focus more on financial sustainability over championships. Most Bills fans would take a championship in 2022 over 10 years of playoffs without a championship. I'm pretty sure they'd even agree to a championship in 2022 even if it meant 10 losing seasons after. If you told me the next 10 years would be predetermined in one of two ways and there was nothing the organization could do to change it, I would choose to win a championship followed by another 9 years in the basement. They could never take that excitement and joy away for finally getting over that hill. If the alternative was 10 winning seasons, each year in the playoffs but never a Super Bowl win, the team would be much more fun to watch, but probably even more frustrating. Give me the championship. We went 17 years without the playoffs with nothing to show for it. Edited March 16, 2022 by JayBaller10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Liar. Not at all. I have gone on record about this before. Ask a Red Sox Fan, a Cubs fan, or any other fan that waited for a championship and finally got one. My guess is that each time their season ends without a championship, they don't think about the one they did win. They are just as miserable as they were every in every other season their team didn't win it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeesforclosers Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 Well, at least he didn't go to New England. And he gets to beat up on Russel Wilson, Patrick Mahomes and Justin Herbert for the rest of his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 1 minute ago, thenorthremembers said: I guess we are just going to have to agree to disagree. The Bills have spent right up to the cap almost every year he has been year. If his moves havent convinced you he is trying to win a championship, then you wont be convinced. I know a lot of fans would choose one championship over 10 years of playoffs. Personally if I am a GM of a team, I'd probably try not to think like a fan. I'd also try to run a team that was both financially sustainable and could win games at a high enough level to keep my job. Dont see how reckless spending makes the Bills a better team but thats just me I guess, He's trying to win a championship. He just isn't going to sacrifice future financial stability to do it. That was Darcy Reiger. That's where the "Do something Darcy" saying came from. I'm just seeing a lot of similarities. I have no doubt we're going to be a contender, we have Allen. But we're going to need more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 Thought this fit well here to illustrate what could happen following the "fan model" 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 7 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: so who is the next best FA Edge rusher??? Jerry Hughes 😎 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 Just now, Solomon Grundy said: Jerry Hughes 😎 I'd like him back, but I'm hoping a more impact guy is out there! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
716er Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 Hope he has fun going 6-11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 It's not like Chandler Jones would be our 2022 Bruce Smith. He's a nice player, but that's too much money. We need more of a pass rush, but there are a few other ways to get there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 9 minutes ago, Success said: I mean, clearly, we couldn't have afforded him. There is still a cap in place. Money can always be moved, this should not be an excuse. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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