BillsMafi$ Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 (edited) Edited March 16, 2022 by BillsMafi$ 9 5 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 That you @YoloinOhio Junior! 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 Sup now playas? Hoping somethin good is on the way... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChanticleerBillsFan Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 This cap stuff is confusing. All I know is bring us more players! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 That will get us compliant at 4pm with the new non accounted for signings of Saffold, Jones and McKissic 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 What are you up to McBeane? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 1 minute ago, ChanticleerBillsFan said: This cap stuff is confusing. All I know is bring us more players! I’m convinced the cap is actually fake. It’s a facade. 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: That will get us compliant at 4pm with the new non accounted for signings of Saffold, Jones and McKissic Could be, but restructuring Hyde, restructuring Milano (as reported) and the likely cut of Beasley today frees up a decent bit of space. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 1 minute ago, Saint Doug said: I’m convinced the cap is actually fake. It’s a facade. The fact that the Saints are in on Deshaun watson and were like 60 million over the cap the other day is the best evidence that it is all faker than Kim Kardashian. 3 2 10 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: That will get us compliant at 4pm with the new non accounted for signings of Saffold, Jones and McKissic I thought Milano's did that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 1 minute ago, ChanticleerBillsFan said: This cap stuff is confusing. All I know is bring us more players! It's not that confusing. Basically a signing bonus is able to be spread out over the remaining length of the contract. So for example if they took $5 million of base salary and converted into signing bonus for someone with 2 years left on the contract, they would save $2.5 million against the cap this year because that $5 million would be spread out over two years. The downside is that they are increasing their cap next year(and for contracts longer than 2 years, every year thereafter I believe up to 5 years). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: That will get us compliant at 4pm with the new non accounted for signings of Saffold, Jones and McKissic Is that all it does? Damn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, ChanticleerBillsFan said: This cap stuff is confusing. All I know is bring us more players! All we’re doing is taking the money owed to Micah Hyde and turning it into guaranteed money. So the player gets that money upfront and the Bills free up much needed space. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 1 minute ago, SCBills said: Could be, but restructuring Hyde, restructuring Milano (as reported) and the likely cut of Beasley today frees up a decent bit of space. It will. Same with Star bieng a post june 1 designation cut. that would be another 4.1M roughly alone. Bills cap is fine even if it looks tight as there are areas to save still if needed. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 Why is Beasley still on this team? 2 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 (edited) Hmm per sportrac they spread it over 5 years, creating 3 void years with dead cap §1.1M each. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/micah-hyde-12440/ Not sure I like this. But like I said I will judge once FA is over. 2 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said: All we’re doing is taking the money owed to Micah Hyde and turning it into guaranteed money. So the player gets that money upfront and the Bills free up much needed space. Well it is not all we are doing. We are also creating lot of dead cap for future years. I am not saying we shouldn't do it but it is important to note. Edited March 16, 2022 by No_Matter_What 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 Just now, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: Is that all it does? Damn Pretty much at this point. 3.8M in space at this point. Needed more to fit Saffold, Jones and McKissic (they would not fit in the 3.8M curently). Still alot of areas to make space up with restructures if Beane gets a big fish he will then hit the others like Tre, Dawkins, Diggs etc 1 minute ago, Process said: Why is Beasley still on this team? probably working the trade side. Nothing forcing a move with him yet. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzonzo Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 Making cap space for Chandler Jones??? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: The fact that the Saints are in on Deshaun watson and were like 60 million over the cap the other day is the best evidence that it is all faker than Kim Kardashian. Yes, the cap is fake. Also credit cards. You don't really have to pay them back at all. 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said: Hmm per sportrac they spread it over 5 years, creating 3 void years with dead cap §1.1M each. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/micah-hyde-12440/ Not sure I like this. But like I said I will judge once FA is over. I am fine with they added void years, they will be small dead money 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 This is only the beginning. Expect restructures/extensions for Poyer. Dawkins, Allen, and Diggs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said: Hmm per sportrac they spread it over 5 years, creating 3 void years with dead cap §1.1M each. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/micah-hyde-12440/ Not sure I like this. But like I said I will judge once FA is over. Just means they added 3.4M of dead cap to 2024 and he's for most likely here through 2023. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 A Just now, Dablitzkrieg said: This is only the beginning. Expect restructures/extensions for Poyer. Dawkins, Allen, and Diggs Allens contract wont be touched this year IMO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 7 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: What are you up to McBeane? getting under the cap by the deadline 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said: Hmm per sportrac they spread it over 5 years, creating 3 void years with dead cap §1.1M each. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/micah-hyde-12440/ Not sure I like this. But like I said I will judge once FA is over. Well it is not all we are doing. We are also creating lot of dead cap for future years. I am not saying we shouldn't do it but it is important to note. I've thought about this too... but it seems everyone is doing this now. Also, we don't have any one with a massive dead cap hit down the line.... these are all 1M here, 1M there. It adds up, but with the cap going up - and Beane's philosophy of not mortgaging the future, I'm not too worried about it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 Just now, MAJBobby said: A Allens contract wont be touched this year IMO Maybe some converted to a signing bonus for cap relief? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 13 minutes ago, BillsMafi$ said: Oh geesh Spotrac has this already. It will run his bonus out 3 void years to 2026 if they have it right https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/micah-hyde-12440/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eee1776 Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, Process said: Why is Beasley still on this team? My thoughts exactly, unless there is a trade coming today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, dneveu said: Just means they added 3.4M of dead cap to 2024 and he's for most likely here through 2023. Do you know how exactly that works? Can we at some point decide whether we want 1.1M dead cap each year from 2024 to 2026 or whether we eat all dead cap (3.4M) in 2024? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said: Hmm per sportrac they spread it over 5 years, creating 3 void years with dead cap §1.1M each. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/micah-hyde-12440/ Not sure I like this. But like I said I will judge once FA is over. $1M in dead cap money is not a big deal. Cap will probably increase by up to $10M a year next few years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Maybe some converted to a signing bonus for cap relief? I don't think so the year to tap into the Bank of Allen will be next year when his New deal actually kicks in. 1 minute ago, No_Matter_What said: Do you know how exactly that works? Can we at some point decide whether we want 1.1M dead cap each year from 2024 to 2026 or whether we eat all dead cap (3.4M) in 2024? You can structure you proration how you want as long as it is approved by the league. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, nucci said: $1M in dead cap money is not a big deal. Cap will probably increase by up to $10M a year next few years Its gona go up like 25 mil next year alone. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 Didn't I hear that they already restructured someone else? Tre' White maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 10 minutes ago, Process said: Why is Beasley still on this team? Because the Bills hate you and know that you more than likely want him off team simply because he's not vaxxed and you're offended by it and they're doing it to spite you. 1 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, nucci said: $1M in dead cap money is not a big deal. Cap will probably increase by up to $10M a year next few years Gonna be way more than that...it's going to go up probably $80-90 million over the next 4 years. Those TV contracts getting ready to kick in are MASSIVE Edited March 16, 2022 by Big Turk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 I can’t wait to hear Josh converts his entire contract into a signing bonus saving us $40 million in cap space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherMan Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 11 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: The fact that the Saints are in on Deshaun watson and were like 60 million over the cap the other day is the best evidence that it is all faker than Kim Kardashian. Think of it a pliable not fake. Eventually it can be stretched too thin and you have to cut/restructure half your roster every off season like the Cowpies and Taints. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 Just now, nucci said: $1M in dead cap money is not a big deal. Cap will probably increase by up to $10M a year next few years Well I know §1M per se is not a big deal. But this is not §1M, this is §3,4M. And it adds up. Last year we had void years only for Addison and Sanders. Now it is Haack, Saffold, Settle, Hyde and we are probably not finished. And I also know that cap will increase. So will players' salaries. The question is how much each team restructures and "kicks the can" down the road. I know I need to get used to Bills doing it, I just don't want us to become Saints or Rams (cap wise, not SB wise ). But like I said I am not making big deal out of this. Just saying it doesn't make me happy. I need to see what the prize will be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: Because the Bills hate you and know that you more than likely want him off team simply because he's not vaxxed and you're offended by it and they're doing it to spite you. Cute! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 1 minute ago, No_Matter_What said: Well I know §1M per se is not a big deal. But this is not §1M, this is §3,4M. And it adds up. Last year we had void years only for Addison and Sanders. Now it is Haack, Saffold, Settle, Hyde and we are probably not finished. And I also know that cap will increase. So will players' salaries. The question is how much each team restructures and "kicks the can" down the road. I know I need to get used to Bills doing it, I just don't want us to become Saints or Rams (cap wise, not SB wise ). But like I said I am not making big deal out of this. Just saying it doesn't make me happy. I need to see what the prize will be The average amount of Dead cap per NFL team is about 14 million. This is no different to what other teams do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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